Re: question about installing debian or some linux system on an external hard drive

2021-02-10 Thread David Christensen
On 2021-02-10 02:58, Semih Ozlem wrote: Hi everyone, Is it possible and sensible to install debian or a linux system to an external hard drive connected to a system via the usb port, while keeping the current hard drive on the machine unchanged? Yes, but: 1. Document your CMOS settings. A

Re: question about installing debian or some linux system on an external hard drive

2021-02-09 Thread Dan Ritter
Semih Ozlem wrote: > Is it possible and sensible to install debian or a linux system to an > external hard drive connected to a system via the usb port, while keeping > the current hard drive on the machine unchanged? As a temporary measure, this is reasonable. USB-connected drives t

question about installing debian or some linux system on an external hard drive

2021-02-09 Thread Semih Ozlem
Hi everyone, Is it possible and sensible to install debian or a linux system to an external hard drive connected to a system via the usb port, while keeping the current hard drive on the machine unchanged? Where does one install grub2 and is grub2 to be installed before or after the installation

Re: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd - PID 1 is killed it seems

2019-05-25 Thread arne
> > # while true; do kill -ILL 1 ; echo -n "." ; sleep 0.5 ; done > > > > I found out PID 1 is killed when I tried to reboot: > > # reboot > > Failed to open /dev/initctl: No such device or address > > Failed to talk to init daemon. > > > > So I will have to use SysReq keys > > > > Can somebody

Re: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd - PID 1 is killed it seems

2019-05-25 Thread tomas
On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 08:35:45AM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: [...] > Can somebody, please link me to the Documentation Files on those SysReq > keys? Thanks! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd - PID 1 is killed it seems

2019-05-25 Thread Kenneth Parker
Hello, > > > > I subscribe to the Devuan Linux mailing list. This posting just > > > > arrived and it appears quite important to Debian. > > > > > > > > Forwarded Message > > > > Subject: [DNG] Linux system can b

Re: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-25 Thread tomas
On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 10:25:26AM +0300, Reco wrote: [...] > Seems harmless to me as one needs to be root to send signals to PID 1. This is *exactly* the point. If you are root, there are far more creative (and fun) ways to bring down your system, regardless of how your init process is called.

Re: [Possibly fake news] [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-25 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (12019-05-25): > That means that to send SIGILL to pid 1 you most probably gotta be > root (systemd or not). And then, there are more classy ways to bring > your system down anyway. > > Folks, please double-check that stuff before reposting. I don't want > the Debian mailing list

Re: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd - PID 1 is killed it seems

2019-05-25 Thread arne
t; > > arrived and it appears quite important to Debian. > > > > > > Forwarded Message > > > Subject: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending > > > SIGILL to Systemd > > > Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 22

Re: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-25 Thread mick crane
On 2019-05-25 08:25, Reco wrote: again no problem here. Stretch's systemd: # kill -ILL 1 Message from syslogd@xxx at May 25 10:19:09 ... systemd[1]: Caught , dumped core as pid 822. ... systemd[1]: Freezing execution. The userspace and the kernel will work after this, but anything that's r

Re: [Possibly fake news] [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-25 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-25, wrote: > > Folks, please double-check that stuff before reposting. I don't want > the Debian mailing list to become Fakebook or Twitter. > Or Der Spiegel. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/01/der-spiegal-fabrication-scandal-global/579889/ -- “Decisions are

Re: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-25 Thread Reco
his posting just > > > arrived and it appears quite important to Debian. > > > > > > Forwarded Message > > > Subject: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending > > > SIGILL to Systemd > > > Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 22

[Possibly fake news] [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-24 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 02:01:35PM -0700, Fred wrote: > Hello, > I subscribe to the Devuan Linux mailing list. This posting just > arrived and it appears quite important to Debian. [about sending SIGILL to systemd] This is most probably fake news. You have to have appropriate permissions to sen

Re: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-24 Thread arne
Forwarded Message > > Subject:[DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending > > SIGILL to Systemd > > Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 22:04:34 +0200 > > From: Martin Steigerwald > > To: DNG > > > > > > > > Hi! &g

Re: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-24 Thread arne
On Fri, 24 May 2019 14:01:35 -0700 Fred wrote: > Hello, > I subscribe to the Devuan Linux mailing list. This posting just > arrived and it appears quite important to Debian. > > Forwarded Message > Subject: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by s

Fwd: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-24 Thread Fred
Hello, I subscribe to the Devuan Linux mailing list. This posting just arrived and it appears quite important to Debian. Forwarded Message Subject: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 22:04:34 +0200 From: Martin

Re: Linux system

2018-05-22 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 23/05/18 11:36, Anhony wrote: Hi support Could you please send to me the instructions for using UEFI to install Linux such a debian, in place of Windows 10 onto a laptop. I have used BIOS many times, butmy laptop has UEFI and I have no idea how to use it. I need the instructions from start

Linux system

2018-05-22 Thread Anhony
Hi support Could you please send to me the instructions for using UEFI to install Linux such a debian, in place of Windows 10 onto a laptop. I have used BIOS many times, butmy laptop has UEFI and I have no idea how to use it. I need the instructions from start to finish including final saving

Re: How to install Software package on a Linux System when it do not have Internet - debbundle

2011-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 05 May 2011 15:56:08 +0200, Alberto Luaces wrote: > Camaleón writes: > >> On Thu, 05 May 2011 16:23:40 +0530, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: >> >>> Problem - How to install Software package on a Linux System when it do >>> not have Internet ? >> >

Re: How to install Software package on a Linux System when it do not have Internet - debbundle

2011-05-05 Thread Alberto Luaces
Camaleón writes: > On Thu, 05 May 2011 16:23:40 +0530, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: > >> Problem - How to install Software package on a Linux System when it do >> not have Internet ? > > (...) > > A very interesting approach for many users! I already forwarded this >

Re: How to install Software package on a Linux System when it do not have Internet - debbundle

2011-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 05 May 2011 16:23:40 +0530, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: > Problem - How to install Software package on a Linux System when it do > not have Internet ? (...) A very interesting approach for many users! I already forwarded this project news to another mailing list :-) Gre

How to install Software package on a Linux System when it do not have Internet - debbundle

2011-05-05 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
Problem - How to install Software package on a Linux System when it do not have Internet ? I know there are multiple solution to this problem.. Here I am giving one very solution which looks perfect to solve the problem you can down the script from http://code.google.com/p/debbundle/ What this

Re: may you can help me, xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64

2009-04-06 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090406104245.gb3...@localhost.localdomain>, Chris Bannister wrote: >/boot/config-xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64 ^^^ >Disclaimer: I've never compiled a zen kernel. ^^^ Careful. Xen is an open-source virtualization tec

Re: may you can help me, xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64

2009-04-06 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello all, On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 07:34:38PM +0200, Thomas Schneider wrote: > I installed a xen system on my server, and it work fine (with > xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64). But i need to recompile the kernel to > optimize some stuff. And the problem is I didn't fo

Re: may you can help me, xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64

2009-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 07:34:38PM +0200, Thomas Schneider wrote: > Hello everybody > > I installed a xen system on my server, and it work fine (with > xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64). But i need to recompile the kernel to > optimize some stuff. And the problem is I didn

may you can help me, xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64

2009-03-29 Thread Thomas Schneider
Hello everybody I installed a xen system on my server, and it work fine (with xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64). But i need to recompile the kernel to optimize some stuff. And the problem is I didn't found the source, because when i do apt-get source xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-amd6

Re: Dual booting -- Adding windows to a Linux system

2005-10-11 Thread Yuriy Kuznetsov
On 10/10/05, Roy Pluschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 09:02 +, Florian Dorpmueller wrote: > > >But one thing that I'm not sure and not really know, will windows work OK > > >if it installed not on the first partition of the disk ? > > >Even I believe this will work, but b

Re: Dual booting -- Adding windows to a Linux system

2005-10-11 Thread Ms Linuz
Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 09:02:01AM +, Florian Dorpmueller wrote: But one thing that I'm not sure and not really know, will windows work OK if it installed not on the first partition of the disk ? Even I believe this will work, but better be carefull. --w.h--

Re: Dual booting -- Adding windows to a Linux system

2005-10-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 09:02:01AM +, Florian Dorpmueller wrote: > >But one thing that I'm not sure and not really know, will windows work OK > >if it installed not on the first partition of the disk ? > >Even I believe this will work, but better be carefull. > > > >--w.h-- > > > > Possible bu

Re: Dual booting -- Adding windows to a Linux system

2005-10-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 12:01:56AM -0700, Roy Pluschke wrote: > On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 12:57 +0700, Ms Linuz wrote: > > Roy Pluschke wrote: > > > > >Is there a howto for dual booting an existing linux system with windows > > >2000. Everything I've found s

Re: Dual booting -- Adding windows to a Linux system

2005-10-10 Thread Roy Pluschke
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 09:02 +, Florian Dorpmueller wrote: > >But one thing that I'm not sure and not really know, will windows work OK > >if it installed not on the first partition of the disk ? > >Even I believe this will work, but better be carefull. > > > >--w.h-- > > > > Possible but not s

Re: Dual booting -- Adding windows to a Linux system

2005-10-10 Thread Florian Dorpmueller
But one thing that I'm not sure and not really know, will windows work OK if it installed not on the first partition of the disk ? Even I believe this will work, but better be carefull. --w.h-- Possible but not simple. E.g. you must manually set the drive and Advanced RISC Computing (ARC) pat

Re: Dual booting -- Adding windows to a Linux system

2005-10-10 Thread Ms Linuz
Roy Pluschke wrote: On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 12:57 +0700, Ms Linuz wrote: Roy Pluschke wrote: Is there a howto for dual booting an existing linux system with windows 2000. Everything I've found so far assumes windows is installed and then adding linux -- I'm going the

Re: Dual booting -- Adding windows to a Linux system

2005-10-10 Thread Florian Dorpmueller
Yes, on the same disk. I have to somehow reduce the current partition sizes and add a new partition for windows. I am also concerned that the windows installation will then screw things up (overwrite the MBR). Don´t know if it´s suitable for you but I am happy with WIN2k running under qemu (ht

Re: Dual booting -- Adding windows to a Linux system

2005-10-10 Thread Roy Pluschke
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 12:57 +0700, Ms Linuz wrote: > Roy Pluschke wrote: > > >Is there a howto for dual booting an existing linux system with windows > >2000. Everything I've found so far assumes windows is installed and > >then adding linux -- I'm going the

Re: Dual booting -- Adding windows to a Linux system

2005-10-09 Thread Ms Linuz
Roy Pluschke wrote: Is there a howto for dual booting an existing linux system with windows 2000. Everything I've found so far assumes windows is installed and then adding linux -- I'm going the other way -- existing linux system and having to add windows. Unfortunately the prog

Dual booting -- Adding windows to a Linux system

2005-10-09 Thread Roy Pluschke
Is there a howto for dual booting an existing linux system with windows 2000. Everything I've found so far assumes windows is installed and then adding linux -- I'm going the other way -- existing linux system and having to add windows. Unfortunately the program I need won't p

Re: How safe is Linux system

2003-07-03 Thread Don Werve
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 12:10:39PM -0400, Vivek Kumar wrote: > > Any thought on this as far as Linux systems are concerned. What are the > few things we should take care of ? Same things you should *always* be taking care of; making sure your system is patched, up-to-date, and not running unnec

Re: How safe is Linux system

2003-07-03 Thread Mathias Gygax
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 12:10:39PM -0400, Vivek Kumar wrote: > Hi there, hi, > Cyber security organizations warned network administrators on Wednesday > about a Web site hacking contest that appeared to be scheduled to begin > on Sunday, July 6. > > Any thought on this as far as Linux systems a

How safe is Linux system

2003-07-03 Thread Vivek Kumar
Hi there, Cyber security organizations warned network administrators on Wednesday about a Web site hacking contest that appeared to be scheduled to begin on Sunday, July 6. Any thought on this as far as Linux systems are concerned. What are the few things we should take care of ? -- V Kumar

Re: Linux system /dev/hda to /dev/hdd, will it work ??

2002-12-29 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya daves On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Alan Chandler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 9:27 pm, daves debian wrote: > > I need to move my linux system from drive, /dev/hda to /dev/hdd > > I know I will have to re-write lilo

Re: Linux system /dev/hda to /dev/hdd, will it work ??

2002-12-29 Thread Alan Chandler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 28 Dec 2002 9:27 pm, daves debian wrote: > I need to move my linux system from drive, /dev/hda to /dev/hdd > I know I will have to re-write lilo.conf > > Apart from lilo, will the system work in a different hdX ?? > &

Re: Linux system /dev/hda to /dev/hdd, will it work ??

2002-12-29 Thread Stefan Radomski
On Sat, 2002-12-28 at 22:27, daves debian wrote: > I need to move my linux system from drive, /dev/hda to /dev/hdd > I know I will have to re-write lilo.conf > > Apart from lilo, will the system work in a different hdX ?? > > Anyone had any experience ?? or done it ?? Hi

Linux system /dev/hda to /dev/hdd, will it work ??

2002-12-29 Thread daves debian
I need to move my linux system from drive, /dev/hda to /dev/hdd I know I will have to re-write lilo.conf Apart from lilo, will the system work in a different hdX ?? Anyone had any experience ?? or done it ?? Thanks Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Using Linux system as an X terminal

2002-10-08 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"David" == David Gaudine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> This seems to work. Is there anything "wrong" with doing David> it this way? Is it appropriate to use run level 5? Is David> there a list somewhere telling the difference between run David> levels 2, 3, 4, or 5?

Re: Using Linux system as an X terminal

2002-10-08 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 15:33, David Gaudine wrote: > > I changed one of my systems to act as an X terminal by changing > one line of /etc/initab and adding another line as follows: > id:5:initdefault: > 7:5:respawn:/usr/X11R6/bin/X -query systemname > > This seems to work. Is there anything "wro

Using Linux system as an X terminal

2002-10-08 Thread David Gaudine
I changed one of my systems to act as an X terminal by changing one line of /etc/initab and adding another line as follows: id:5:initdefault: 7:5:respawn:/usr/X11R6/bin/X -query systemname This seems to work. Is there anything "wrong" with doing it this way? Is it appropriate to use run level 5

How to build a Kick * audio/video linux system

2002-09-09 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
Could people share their thoughts on what hardware and software can be combined to provided the following functionality? - all free & open source - drivers and applications - SVideo in/out - optical audio in/out - play DVD's from disk, harddrive or over TCP/IP

Re: transfering linux system to another hard drive

2001-12-05 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Janina Sajka wrote: > Cheryl: > > You should not think in terms of transferring your linux. The linux > operating system itself should be reinstalled. Crap. This is Unix not Winblows. Copying the entire OS is easy and almost trivial, as outlined in my previous post and the mentioned HOWTO. Y

Re: transfering linux system to another hard drive

2001-12-04 Thread Stephan Hachinger
- Original Message - From: "Cheryl Homiak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "speakup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:29 PM Subject: transfering linux system to another hard drive > I apologize for the cross-po

Re: transfering linux system to another hard drive

2001-12-04 Thread Jens Gecius
Janina Sajka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You should not think in terms of transferring your linux. The linux > operating system itself should be reinstalled. That's plainly not true! Why re-doing everything that was already accomplished? There are several ways to do this, I already mailed this

Re: transfering linux system to another hard drive

2001-12-04 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Hi Cheryl, Transferring a Linux system is in my experience as simple as copying the contents. 1. Boot up with a boot disk 2. Mount the source partitions of your failing drive under /src/ (ie /src/var, /src/usr, ... if you have split up your Linux tree in partitions) and the destination

Re: transfering linux system to another hard drive

2001-12-04 Thread Janina Sajka
Cheryl: You should not think in terms of transferring your linux. The linux operating system itself should be reinstalled. Your data and configuration files, on the other hand, should be transferred. The best mechanism is likely some kind of temporary storage device, and an upload to someplace

transfering linux system to another hard drive

2001-12-04 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I apologize for the cross-post, but I'm trying to get info as soon as possible; even if somebody has just seen this on one of these lists and can steer me toward the correct archive it would be appreciated. My hard drive with linux is failing; I have just obtained a 20gig drive which will have both

Re: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-18 Thread will trillich
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 08:58:50AM -0600, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: > | Just curious how long people have left their system running > | without reboot. > | I once left my server at a co-locate for over 3 months and it ran > | fine. In > | three years, I have never had to reboot because of crash. >

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-16 Thread Walt Mankowski
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 03:25:41AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 10:18:33AM +0100, Pietro Cagnoni wrote: > > > i believe that bug was fixed in linux a few years ago. > > > > > > theres no longer a 497 day limit .. > > > > could someone please tell me for sure? i'm at 470 ri

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-16 Thread Stig Brautaset
* Paul McHale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus: > > spin at all. and with the near 2 dozen IBM disk drive failures > > ive had in the past 6 months, im even more for never turning > > off the system. > > When I worked PC support contracts at Honeywell, we would always tell people > to leave the CPU

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-16 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 02:05:18PM +0200, Tuomas Pellonpera ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On 15 Nov 2001, John Hasler wrote: > > > Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 15/11/2001 (16:53) : > > > At one time, leaving a machine on overnight consumed less power than > > > rebooting it (i.e., s

RE: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-16 Thread Paul McHale
> spin at all. and with the near 2 dozen IBM disk drive failures > ive had in the past 6 months, im even more for never turning > off the system. When I worked PC support contracts at Honeywell, we would always tell people to leave the CPU (and HD) running. Electrically, there are a lot of transi

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-16 Thread Sam Varghese
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 02:05:18PM +0200, Tuomas Pellonpera wrote: > Does (daily) shutting down and rebooting wear out the hardware more than > leaving the computer on for days/weeks/months does? Many electricians have told me that it's better to leave the system running rather than continually sw

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-16 Thread DvB
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Preben writes: > > Cannot see why it should. > > Thermal cycling. I was told recently that this was not an issue with newer hardware... d'you happen to know of any recent research on the subject :-)

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-16 Thread John Hasler
Preben writes: > Cannot see why it should. Thermal cycling. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-16 Thread Kerstin Hoef-Emden
Hi, On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Preben Randhol wrote: > Tuomas Pellonpera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 16/11/2001 (13:14) : > > Does (daily) shutting down and rebooting wear out the hardware more than > > leaving the computer on for days/weeks/months does? > > Cannot see why it should. Your harddisc,

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-16 Thread Preben Randhol
Tuomas Pellonpera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 16/11/2001 (13:14) : > Does (daily) shutting down and rebooting wear out the hardware more than > leaving the computer on for days/weeks/months does? Cannot see why it should. Your harddisc, CD-ROMs etc will all stop spinning which means less friction

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-16 Thread Tuomas Pellonpera
On 15 Nov 2001, John Hasler wrote: > Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 15/11/2001 (16:53) : > > At one time, leaving a machine on overnight consumed less power than > > rebooting it (i.e., shutting down and powering back up wasted more > > resources than just leaving it on). Is that sti

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-16 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
take a look at http://counter.li.org/ there's a link to uptime statistics and a explanation on the 497 days wrap. On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Paul McHale wrote: > > Just curious how long people have left their system running without reboot. > I once left my server at a co-locate for over 3 months and

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread nate
Frank Zimmermann said: > As long as your talking about servers this uptime thing is ok, but > when talking about workstaions it's redicolous, premature and an > unjustifiable waste of natural resources. I sometimes think Linux > users just do this to show their Windows using friends how cool > the

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread dman
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 05:50:06PM -0800, nate wrote: | DvB said: | | > Especially the monitor. I have my monitors power down not only to | > save energy, but also (at least in the case of my home box, which | > is in my bedroom) because they generate a substantial amount of | > heat which, in tur

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread nate
DvB said: > Especially the monitor. I have my monitors power down not only to > save energy, but also (at least in the case of my home box, which > is in my bedroom) because they generate a substantial amount of > heat which, in turn, makes my A/C run more often and increses my > power bill (not t

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread John Hasler
Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 15/11/2001 (16:53) : > At one time, leaving a machine on overnight consumed less power than > rebooting it (i.e., shutting down and powering back up wasted more > resources than just leaving it on). Is that still the case? It never was. -- John Hasler

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ? - backups/ups

2001-11-15 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya > > > theres no longer a 497 day limit .. > > > > could someone please tell me for sure? i'm at 470 right now... :-) > > Well, if it's not, you could put a sticky saying "Add 497 days to listed > uptime" on the front. 8:o) my 2.0.35 kernel machine rolled over a day or two ago.. have oth

Re: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread JakeCatfox
We have three Linux boxes at my school-- Dell Optiplex GL+ 5100s with Pentium 1 processors, overclocked from 100mhz to 120 and 130mhz, 16-32 mb ram. They are always on (about 2 or 3 months now), and have not crashed once yet. :) -- Deven Gallo

RE: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread nate
Mike Dresser said: > I had a system at a remote plant with 300+ days, running 2.2.16, > that I finally had to pull the plug on when we sold the plant. It > was very tempting to take it and the attached UPS back to the > office, to see how long it would have ran. =) ive done that.. i moved to a

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Preben Randhol
Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 15/11/2001 (16:53) : > At one time, leaving a machine on overnight consumed less power than > rebooting it (i.e., shutting down and powering back up wasted more > resources than just leaving it on). Is that still the case? This cannot be right. We are n

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Preben Randhol
Tom Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 15/11/2001 (13:27) : > > I agree. It's not like this has to be proven any longer. Linux will > basically run forever unless interrupted by power failure or hardware > failure. Or crackers. :-( Preben -- «Don't use C; In my opinion, C is a library prog

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Colin Watson
> recompiling the whole kernel, though, which may be what you're > > remembering. > > This functionality in HP-UX is essentially the same as changing stuff > in /proc on a linux system. Indeed, and it's substantially more awkward at that. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Nathan E Norman
s I can tell) > recompiling the whole kernel, though, which may be what you're > remembering. This functionality in HP-UX is essentially the same as changing stuff in /proc on a linux system. -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd.

Re: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 15 Nov 2001, Mike Dresser wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: > > > There was a post from Will Trillich on sept 14 about his box being up just > > over a year. I bet it's still going. I have a postgresql database server > > that gets constant use that has not had a h

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:29:37AM -0600, DvB wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [on-the-fly kernel upgrades] > > Not as far as I know. It's rather difficult in a monolithic kernel (QNX > > is a microkernel). > > For some reason, I'm thinking HP-UX can do this... or am I totally off

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread DvB
"Johnny Ernst Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >As long as your talking about servers this uptime thing is ok, but > >when talking about workstaions it's redicolous, premature and an > >unjustifiable waste of natural resources. I sometimes think Linux > >users just do this to show the

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread DvB
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:29:35AM +0100, op wrote: > > Also sprach Colin Watson: > > > It's a shame we aren't like QNX > > > yet and can't upgrade the kernel on the fly. > > ^^^ > > > > Is this a feature that's up for discussion in 2.5? > > Not as fa

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread DvB
"Paul McHale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just curious how long people have left their system running without reboot. > I once left my server at a co-locate for over 3 months and it ran fine. In > three years, I have never had to reboot because of crash. > > I have rebooted about once every 3

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 12:52:58AM -0500, Paul McHale wrote: > Just curious how long people have left their system running without reboot. > I once left my server at a co-locate for over 3 months and it ran fine. In > three years, I have never had to reboot because of crash. If this sort of thing

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 05:44:02AM +, root wrote: > this topic is inherently redundant. if the system environment justifies > staying up, it stays up. if not, staying up is a waste of resources. can > we close this before the group is reduced to redundancy itself? *sigh* You seem to have comp

RE: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Mike Dresser
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: > There was a post from Will Trillich on sept 14 about his box being up just > over a year. I bet it's still going. I have a postgresql database server > that gets constant use that has not had a hiccup in 67 days. I don't recall > why I rebooted

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Rudy Gevaert
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > "Paul McHale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Just curious how long people have left their system > > running without reboot. This is the best I (our workgroup) has up til now: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uptime 4:32pm up 178 days, 8:48, 1 use

RE: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
| Just curious how long people have left their system running | without reboot. | I once left my server at a co-locate for over 3 months and it ran | fine. In | three years, I have never had to reboot because of crash. | | I have rebooted about once every 3 to 4 months (guessing average) after | m

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread hallstevenson
"Paul McHale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Just curious how long people have left their system > running without reboot. I had a box set up at work for a couple of years that did webserver (intranet), ftp, and Samba duties. It was taken down... permanently... ;-( I did get this though: [

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Pietro Cagnoni wrote: > > theres no longer a 497 day limit .. > > could someone please tell me for sure? i'm at 470 right now... :-) Well, if it's not, you could put a sticky saying "Add 497 days to listed uptime" on the front. 8:o) -- Baloo

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Paul McHale wrote: > (dedicated server mail/ftp/web). Anyone have any really long times for X > and non-X systems? 172 days is the best I've ever done, the power around Portland craps out whenever California taps us dry. (Which reminds me, pay your $128 million already, Cal

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread root
this topic is inherently redundant. if the system environment justifies staying up, it stays up. if not, staying up is a waste of resources. can we close this before the group is reduced to redundancy itself? Tom Massey wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:19:00AM +, Frank Zimmermann wrote:

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Tom Massey
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:19:00AM +, Frank Zimmermann wrote: > As long as your talking about servers this uptime thing is ok, but > when talking about workstaions it's redicolous, premature and an > unjustifiable waste of natural resources. Is it really? Just thinking in terms of wastage

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Frank Zimmermann wrote: > > >Just curious how long people have left their system running without reboot. > >I once left my server at a co-locate for over 3 months and it ran fine. In > >three years, I have never had to reboot because of crash. > > > >I have rebooted about once every 3 to 4 months

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Johnny Ernst Nielsen
>>Just curious how long people have left their system running without reboot. >>I once left my server at a co-locate for over 3 months and it ran fine. In >>three years, I have never had to reboot because of crash. [snip] >> >>Paul >> > >As long as your talking about servers this uptime thing is

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Jean-Marc V. Liotier
On Thu, 2001-11-15 at 12:19, Frank Zimmermann wrote: > As long as your talking about servers this uptime thing is ok, but > when talking about workstaions it's redicolous, premature and an > unjustifiable waste of natural resources. I sometimes think Linux > users just do this to show their Wind

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Frank Zimmermann
Just curious how long people have left their system running without reboot. I once left my server at a co-locate for over 3 months and it ran fine. In three years, I have never had to reboot because of crash. I have rebooted about once every 3 to 4 months (guessing average) after maintenance. T

Re: Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Tom Allison
nate wrote: Johnny Ernst Nielsen said: I think the uptime counter counts up to 497 days, and then it starts all over again. So currently we would not have any reports positively documenting more than 497 days of uptime. I read somewhere that the time is counted in "jiffies" where one i bel

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Tim van Erven
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 03:25:41AM -0600, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 10:18:33AM +0100, Pietro Cagnoni wrote: > I think the uptime counter counts up to 497 days, and then it starts all over again. So currently we would not have any reports posi

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:29:35AM +0100, op wrote: > Also sprach Colin Watson: > > It's a shame we aren't like QNX > > yet and can't upgrade the kernel on the fly. > ^^^ > > Is this a feature that's up for discussion in 2.5? Not as far as I know. It's rather difficult in a monolithic kernel (Q

Re: OT: How long has your Linux system been up ?

2001-11-15 Thread op
Also sprach Colin Watson: > It's a shame we aren't like QNX > yet and can't upgrade the kernel on the fly. ^^^ Is this a feature that's up for discussion in 2.5? It would be a great thing. op -- Try to have as good a life as you can under the circumstances.

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