Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-25 Thread gene heskett
On 11/24/24 12:06, Hans wrote: Hello Alexander, thank you very much for your response. Short answer: Not usable. Hmm, that is a pity. Long answer: As a rule of thumb, never trust AliExpress product descriptions. +100 or more. I bought a voron trident, $1300 + ship, 3 years ago? Carton a

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-25 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 24.11.2024 22:05, Hans wrote: Long answer: As a rule of thumb, never trust AliExpress product descriptions. You have to always look up _specifications_ on Intel official website or websites of other vendors.Seller claims this device has N100 CPU [1], but in Characteristics section it is actual

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I am frustrated that I cannot perceive any performance improvements in > CPUs since the 4th Gen i7s. This is likely due to the software I use > does not gain any perceptible improvement from running on > a faster CPU? Not really, it's simply that, since the end of [Dennard scaling](https://en.wi

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread George at Clug
On Monday, 25-11-2024 at 03:39 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > a CPU that is less than the performance of an i5. > > Side note: such a description is not very useful because a 10 year old > i7 can be significantly less powerful than a recent i3. While ymmv is valid, I favour i7 CPUs (and Ryzen 7) ov

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread George at Clug
On Monday, 25-11-2024 at 04:29 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks to all who replied. With only 4 GB, I'm not interested in that > laptop, > but I was maybe most concerned about S-mode (in Windows). Me too. There are many Windows programs I like to install that I do not want to install f

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 12:52 PM wrote: > > Ahh, ok, thanks -- that's pretty clear that there is no memory slot, and, even > though I wouldn't use the laptop for much -- to demo some software "on the > road", 4 MB is very limiting. The SSD might be soldered onto the motherboard, too. I found that

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread rhkramer
You're mostly right, I'm not terribly sorry, but I don't use it on every email or post I make -- on debian-user typically only the first post in a thread I might start or possibly in the first comment I make to a thread. I've fixed the sig separator. But let me ask you, do you complain to those

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Tom Furie
On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 12:34:17PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > But let me ask you, do you complain to those that quote all or most of the > previous posts in a thread when they have no relevant comment about most of > what they've quoted? Now and then, yes. Though it often doesn't have m

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread rhkramer
Thanks to all who replied. With only 4 GB, I'm not interested in that laptop, but I was maybe most concerned about S-mode (in Windows). I assume that would not keep me from installing Linux, I mean, presumably I can still get into the BIOS (or the newer (to me) style of BIOS) and load Linux fr

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Hans
Hello Alexander, thank you very much for your response. > Short answer: Not usable. Hmm, that is a pity. > Long answer: > As a rule of thumb, never trust AliExpress product descriptions. > You have to always look up _specifications_ on Intel official website or > websites of other vendors.Sel

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
> a CPU that is less than the performance of an i5. Side note: such a description is not very useful because a 10 year old i7 can be significantly less powerful than a recent i3. Stefan

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Dan Ritter
Hans wrote: > I discovered some small laptops (10 inch and 7 inch), with an Intel N100 > processor, up to 16 GB RAM and ump to 1 TB disk. But shipped with windows. > > 2 questions: > > 1. Does one have any experience, if the N100 cpu is usable for fluently work? > These processors are also b

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread rhkramer
Ahh, ok, thanks -- that's pretty clear that there is no memory slot, and, even though I wouldn't use the laptop for much -- to demo some software "on the road", 4 MB is very limiting. On Saturday, November 23, 2024 06:39:12 PM George at Clug wrote: > The link you provided about the Laptop states

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 24.11.2024 14:21, Hans wrote: Following the discussion here, iI would like to ask something. I discovered some small laptops (10 inch and 7 inch), with an Intel N100 processor, up to 16 GB RAM and ump to 1 TB disk. But shipped with windows. 2 questions: 1. Does one have any experience, if

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Hans
Following the discussion here, iI would like to ask something. I discovered some small laptops (10 inch and 7 inch), with an Intel N100 processor, up to 16 GB RAM and ump to 1 TB disk. But shipped with windows. 2 questions: 1. Does one have any experience, if the N100 cpu is usable for fluent

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread tomas
On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 09:51:16AM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: [...] > Way too kind. > > Calling cheap asses cheap asses is IMNSHO better kindness for mankind. Don't be so harsh on people. Rather be harsh on the corps fleecing them. Trying to get a cheap computer is understandable if your bud

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-24 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 10:07:57PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 03:38:56PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > I see an attractive deal on a laptop that is shipped with Windows 11 in > > S-mode > > > > I assume (I know), but am not sure that I will be able to load L

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-23 Thread rhkramer
Oops, failed to send to the list -- resending. On Saturday, November 23, 2024 06:15:45 PM George at Clug wrote: > On Sunday, 24-11-2024 at 07:44 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Ahh, with respect to RAM, there is an empty SODIMM slot and at least one > > site has installed an 8 GB stick there for a t

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-23 Thread George at Clug
Hi, The link you provided about the Laptop states: "Memory Slot (Available) 0", indicating you would not be able to upgrade the memory. I believe you can put in an M.2 NVMe and then install Linux to that NVMe, that way you can still boot Windows as well as Linux? I would be concerned a

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-23 Thread George at Clug
On Sunday, 24-11-2024 at 07:44 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Ahh, with respect to RAM, there is an empty SODIMM slot and at least one site > has installed an 8 GB stick there for a total of 12 GB -- I'm not sure what > the maximum additional RAM could be. (The factory installed 4 GB is soldered

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 03:38:56PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I see an attractive deal on a laptop that is shipped with Windows 11 in > S-mode > (link below). > > I assume (I know), but am not sure that I will be able to load Linux on that > laptop -- can anyone tell me for sure? > > P

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-23 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:38:56 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > 64GB SSD Sorry, I can't tell you for sure if Linux will load on one of these, not having done the experiment. I can tell you that I would not plan on dual booting. I have Windows 11 on two of my machines here, and have shrunk its par

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-23 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 03:38:56PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Rh Kramer > > -- > rhk > > | Sorry about the sig -- some people think it is too long -- it is my soapbox. No, you aren't, and you know you aren't. So drop the fake apology. Over 40 lines of sig on an approx 20 line email! At

Re: Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-23 Thread rhkramer
Ahh, with respect to RAM, there is an empty SODIMM slot and at least one site has installed an 8 GB stick there for a total of 12 GB -- I'm not sure what the maximum additional RAM could be. (The factory installed 4 GB is soldered in). On Saturday, November 23, 2024 03:38:56 PM rhkra...@gmail.

Linux on a Laptop shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode

2024-11-23 Thread rhkramer
I see an attractive deal on a laptop that is shipped with Windows 11 in S-mode (link below). I assume (I know), but am not sure that I will be able to load Linux on that laptop -- can anyone tell me for sure? PS: I'd also want to expand the RAM and I have to find out if I can do that. cc'ing m