On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:36 AM, James P. Wallen wrote:
>
> On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>>
[snip]
>> Once you've got the hardware, you might as well use it, even if it
>> requires
>> non-free drivers. The manufacturer has already got their cut of what you
>> paid; you
On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
And I claim he would be better off using a card that doesn't use firmware[1]
or uses free firmware, since non-free firmware is an issue for distributors
and it's relatively easy to "accidentally" participate in distributing
software in vio
On Monday 26 April 2010 20:27:14 Celejar wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:03:07 -0500
> "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote:
> > On Monday 26 April 2010 16:34:36 Celejar wrote:
> > > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:16:32 -0500
> > > "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote:
> > > > On Monday 26 April 2010 15:09:57 Celeja
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:03:07 -0500
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote:
> On Monday 26 April 2010 16:34:36 Celejar wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:16:32 -0500
> > "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote:
> > > On Monday 26 April 2010 15:09:57 Celejar wrote:
> > > > What makes the non-free firmware question
On Monday 26 April 2010 16:34:36 Celejar wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:16:32 -0500
> "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote:
> > On Monday 26 April 2010 15:09:57 Celejar wrote:
> > > What makes the non-free firmware question particularly interesting is
> > > that the alternative is often to hardcode the
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:16:32 -0500
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote:
> On Monday 26 April 2010 15:09:57 Celejar wrote:
...
> > What makes the non-free firmware question particularly interesting is
> > that the alternative is often to hardcode the functionality into the
> > hardware. Now, if you
On Monday 26 April 2010 15:09:57 Celejar wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:03:24 -0400
> "James P. Wallen" wrote:
> > On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Celejar wrote:
> > > On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:53:27 -0400
> > > "James P. Wallen" wrote:
> > >> Heck, I haven't even installed the non-free firmware to make
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:03:24 -0400
"James P. Wallen" wrote:
>
>
> On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Celejar wrote:
> > On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:53:27 -0400
> > "James P. Wallen" wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> >> Heck, I haven't even installed the non-free firmware to make wireless
> >> work in a couple of th
On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:53:27 -0400
"James P. Wallen" wrote:
...
Heck, I haven't even installed the non-free firmware to make wireless
work in a couple of these notebooks.
Firmware runs on the external hardware, not the system, so system
stability
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:53:27 -0400
"James P. Wallen" wrote:
...
> Heck, I haven't even installed the non-free firmware to make wireless
> work in a couple of these notebooks.
Firmware runs on the external hardware, not the system, so system
stability shouldn't be an issue. I assume that here
On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> That's one difference between us: I don't use Compiz.
That's not a difference. I don't use it, either. My use of Compiz was
just a part of exploration of the Gnome DE. I don't even use Gnome now.
> ... because I don't need glitzy special effect
On 04/24/2010 08:53 AM, James P. Wallen wrote:
On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/22/2010 08:49 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
[snip]
I shall now avoid, when possible, computers with Nvidia graphics cards.
Except that Nvidia's drivers are still *much* better than ATI's drivers
On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/22/2010 08:49 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
[snip]
I shall now avoid, when possible, computers with Nvidia graphics cards.
Except that Nvidia's drivers are still *much* better than ATI's drivers.
Insofar as my experience goes I'd have to q
> The VESA driver is not adequate
> for many users. If I recall correctly, the VESA driver only makes
> use of video graphics modes supported by the video BIOS. These video
> modes often cannot exploit the maximum video resolution available on
> many modern LCD displays.
This was the main reason
On 04/22/2010 08:49 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
[snip]
I shall now avoid, when possible, computers with Nvidia graphics cards.
Except that Nvidia's drivers are still *much* better than ATI's drivers.
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On 04/22/2010 12:12 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
[snip]
The objection I have to the latter is that one is never quite sure that
.config is correct with the new kernel. My own kernel never had the
Copy a known-working .config file to the new /usr/src/linux and then:
# make clean
# make oldconfig
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2010-04-21 14:45, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
[snip]
I use 3/ and 195.36.15 to drive 2 seats on 2 GeForce 6200 cards
How's that Studebaker holding up?
You mean AMC Pacer (XL model 1976). Bought it in SFO for $900 sold it
last year in Oaxaca for $150. Saw it half a year a
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2010-04-21 14:48, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
[snip]
Eh. I'm still running .31 from December. (Will soon be upgrading to
.33, though.)
So will I, as soon as it gets out of experimental
Or roll your own kernel. You'll learn a lot.
I used to rol
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:36:27 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote:
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> Let me "copy/paste" from the official announcemnet¹:
>
> ***
> "(...) For this reason, NVIDIA is dropping support, on new GPUs, for the
> xf86-video-nv driver.
>
> Details:
>
> - NVIDIA will continue to support the existing functiona
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:35:55 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2010-04-21 13:04, Camaleón wrote:
1/ "nv" driver (only 2-D)
>>> Except that Nvidia deprecated this driver a few weeks ago...
>>
>> ... only for "newer" (fermi) cards ;-)
>
> Will they keep it current with X?
Let me "copy/paste" f
On 2010-04-21 14:45, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
[snip]
I use 3/ and 195.36.15 to drive 2 seats on 2 GeForce 6200 cards
How's that Studebaker holding up?
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On 2010-04-21 14:48, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
[snip]
Eh. I'm still running .31 from December. (Will soon be upgrading to
.33, though.)
So will I, as soon as it gets out of experimental
Or roll your own kernel. You'll learn a lot.
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On Wed,21.Apr.10, 14:48:30, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> >Eh. I'm still running .31 from December. (Will soon be upgrading
> >to .33, though.)
> >
>
> So will I, as soon as it gets out of experimental
This will most likely not happen before the release.
Regards,
Andrei
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Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2010-04-21 13:04, Camaleón wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:44:38 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2010-04-21 12:22, Camaleón wrote: [snip]
For GeForce 7600GS you have the following options:
1/ "nv" driver (only 2-D)
Except that Nvidia deprecated this driver a few weeks ago..
Camaleón wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:14:09 -0400, Ken Heard wrote:
Further to my original post, it was and is my intention to use replace
the internal graphics card with Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS card, which I
have already but have yet to install. It will of course will use a
different driver.
On 2010-04-21 13:04, Camaleón wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:44:38 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2010-04-21 12:22, Camaleón wrote: [snip]
For GeForce 7600GS you have the following options:
1/ "nv" driver (only 2-D)
Except that Nvidia deprecated this driver a few weeks ago...
... only for "ne
On 2010-04-21 12:54, Sven Joachim wrote:
On 2010-04-21 19:40 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2010-04-21 12:31, Aioanei Rares wrote:
[snip]
how 'bout nouveau? :-)
It's not up to snuff yet.
[snip]
be, it is already in good shape in sid. Note that it is still 2D only,
but it should be muc
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 06:04:01PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> I find it a bit more difficult to manage (if you change the kernel, you
> need to recompile the driver again).
IMHO that only depends on what Debian distro you use :P. I can live with
logging in to the basic shell, running the .sh again
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:44:38 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2010-04-21 12:22, Camaleón wrote: [snip]
>>
>> For GeForce 7600GS you have the following options:
>>
>> 1/ "nv" driver (only 2-D)
>
> Except that Nvidia deprecated this driver a few weeks ago...
... only for "newer" (fermi) cards ;-)
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 01:14:09PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote:
> Further to my original post, it was and is my intention to use replace
> the internal graphics card with Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS card, which I
> have already but have yet to install. It will of course will use a
> different driver. In th
On 2010-04-21 19:40 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2010-04-21 12:31, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> [snip]
>> how 'bout nouveau? :-)
>>
>
> It's not up to snuff yet.
Not in Lenny (and it won't be there), but for Squeeze it should soon
be, it is already in good shape in sid. Note that it is still 2D
On 2010-04-21 12:22, Camaleón wrote:
[snip]
For GeForce 7600GS you have the following options:
1/ "nv" driver (only 2-D)
Except that Nvidia deprecated this driver a few weeks ago...
2/ "nvidia" driver from Debian "contrib" and "non-free" sources
3/ "nvidia" driver from nvidia website
4/ VES
On 2010-04-21 12:31, Aioanei Rares wrote:
[snip]
how 'bout nouveau? :-)
It's not up to snuff yet.
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:31:42 +0300, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> On 04/21/2010 08:22 PM, Camaleón wrote:
>> For GeForce 7600GS you have the following options:
>>
>> 1/ "nv" driver (only 2-D)
>> 2/ "nvidia" driver from Debian "contrib" and "non-free" sources 3/
>> "nvidia" driver from nvidia website 4/
On 04/21/2010 08:22 PM, Camaleón wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:14:09 -0400, Ken Heard wrote:
Further to my original post, it was and is my intention to use replace
the internal graphics card with Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS card, which I
have already but have yet to install. It will of course w
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Camaleón wrote:
> For GeForce 7600GS you have the following options:
>
> 1/ "nv" driver (only 2-D)
> 2/ "nvidia" driver from Debian "contrib" and "non-free" sources
> 3/ "nvidia" driver from nvidia website
> 4/ VESA driver (not recommended)
>
FWIW, I'm using opt
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:14:09 -0400, Ken Heard wrote:
> Further to my original post, it was and is my intention to use replace
> the internal graphics card with Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS card, which I
> have already but have yet to install. It will of course will use a
> different driver. In that ca
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Further to my original post, it was and is my intention to use replace
the internal graphics card with Nvidia GeForce 7600 GS card, which I
have already but have yet to install. It will of course will use a
different driver. In that case, does it rea
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