Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-19 Thread Ilya Martynov
> "WL" == William Leese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: WL> having taken a quick look at my providers homepage (which, i WL> admit i should have done first.. but i'm used to ISP pages WL> with nothing but marketing talk) i found something on WL> pop-ssl. However aparently i need an

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 02:03:01PM +0100, William Leese wrote: > having taken a quick look at my providers homepage (which, i admit i should > have done first.. but i'm used to ISP pages with nothing but marketing talk) > i found something on pop-ssl. However aparently i need an email client tha

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-19 Thread William Leese
> > > > knowing basically nothing about imap and ssl where would i look first > > > > to see if this is suitable and how it can be used? > > > > > > check to see if they have the imap-ssl port open (i don't know it > > > offhand) or the pop3-ssl... they probably don't. > > > > yatsu:$ nmap -sS p

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-19 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 03:24:09AM +0100, William Leese wrote: > On Monday 19 March 2001 00:41, Ethan Benson wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 05:04:02PM +0100, William Leese wrote: > > > knowing basically nothing about imap and ssl where would i look first to > > > see if this is suitable and how

RE: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-19 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Joris Lambrecht wrote: > I asssumed cable modems were encrypting there communications with some > simple built-in algorithm It is my understanding that modern DOCSIS modems use encryption between the cable modem and the cable head end. The motorola cybersufr brand has been d

RE: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-19 Thread Joris Lambrecht
I asssumed cable modems were encrypting there communications with some simple built-in algorithm -Original Message- From: Ethan Benson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: zondag 18 maart 2001 14:59 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Linux Network Security: POP On Sun, Mar 18

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread William Leese
On Monday 19 March 2001 00:41, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 05:04:02PM +0100, William Leese wrote: > > knowing basically nothing about imap and ssl where would i look first to > > see if this is suitable and how it can be used? > > check to see if they have the imap-ssl port open (

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread Phil Brutsche
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > unless they changed something in the last year or so, come to alaska > and get GCI's cable modems, i have personally seen where every packet > sent across the network is happily deposited in

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 11:13:08AM -0800, David Steinberg wrote: > > OTOH, then you have another service running, which makes you that much > more open to being cracked. It's not a bad thing in and of itself, but it > does demand that you keep up to date with security announcements for that > pac

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 12:13:37PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > > Bzzzt. This is simply not true with DOCSIS modems (if you can cite a > provable example I'd love to hear about it). It's also not true with > LANCity Gen3 modems at least. It might work with the super-old Zenith > stuff but I

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 05:04:02PM +0100, William Leese wrote: > knowing basically nothing about imap and ssl where would i look first to see > if this is suitable and how it can be used? check to see if they have the imap-ssl port open (i don't know it offhand) or the pop3-ssl... they probably

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread David Steinberg
On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: > if you have a static ip and your connection is actually stable you > could just run your own mailserver and have mail delivered directly to > it. that way you don't need pop3 or imap. no passwords sent anywhere > that way. OTOH, then you have another se

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 04:59:23AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 03:38:36PM +0100, William Leese wrote: > > Having a cable modem I'm concerned with the fact that when I use email my > > password is sent in clear text over the network. I've heard that there were > > as you

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread Phil Brutsche
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > Having a cable modem I'm concerned with the fact that when I use email my > password is sent in clear text over the network. I've heard that there were > other services that could be used in

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread William Leese
> > other services that could be used instead of POP but i'm not sure if that > > can be used here if my provider doesnt support it. > > imap over ssl maybe.. knowing basically nothing about imap and ssl where would i look first to see if this is suitable and how it can be used? > > For my email

Re: Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 03:38:36PM +0100, William Leese wrote: > Having a cable modem I'm concerned with the fact that when I use email my > password is sent in clear text over the network. I've heard that there were as you should be, cable modems generally are equivilent to large unswitched lan

Linux Network Security: POP

2001-03-18 Thread William Leese
Having a cable modem I'm concerned with the fact that when I use email my password is sent in clear text over the network. I've heard that there were other services that could be used instead of POP but i'm not sure if that can be used here if my provider doesnt support it. For my email I use m