Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote: > > Actually it's not superstition at all. I think you can still recover a file > > that's been overwritten once with zeroes... just open the HD (in a clean > > room, of course) and read off the sectors with a electron microscope (or > > I think the older

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-20 Thread W Paul Mills
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Christian Hudon wrote: > On Jun 18, Rick Macdonald wrote > > > > Well, you could overwrite the file with gibberish _before_ deleting it. > > I think that's what Norton does, several times if I remember correctly. > > That's to comply with US federal regs, which seem a bit sup

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-19 Thread jghasler
Christian writes: > I think you can still recover a file that's been overwritten once with > zeroes... just open the HD (in a clean room, of course) and read off the > sectors with a electron microscope (or something like that). No need to open the drive. Just signal process the analog output fro

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-19 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Christian Hudon wrote: > On Jun 18, Rick Macdonald wrote > > > > Well, you could overwrite the file with gibberish _before_ deleting it. > > I think that's what Norton does, several times if I remember correctly. > > That's to comply with US federal regs, which seem a bit sup

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-19 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 18, Rick Macdonald wrote > > Well, you could overwrite the file with gibberish _before_ deleting it. > I think that's what Norton does, several times if I remember correctly. > That's to comply with US federal regs, which seem a bit superstitious to > me! Actually, the giberrish itself is p

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-18 Thread John Kuhn
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:01:23 -0500 > > To:debian-user@lists.debian.org > > From: "Tim O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: Linux FS Question > >

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-18 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
Maybe a proper way of doing is to fill the file with zeroes from /dev/zero before removing. Regards, Andree -- | Institute of Geophysics phone: +49 40 4123 4389 ANDREE LEIDENFROST | University of Hamburg fax: +49 40 4123 5441 Geophysicist | Bundesst

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-18 Thread stephen
> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:01:23 -0500 > To:debian-user@lists.debian.org > From: "Tim O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Linux FS Question > Is there a way to securely delete a file? Or do I need to study the e2fs &

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-18 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Tim O'Brien wrote: > Is there a way to securely delete a file? Or do I need to study the e2fs > and develop a program to do it? I'm sure there's lots of people out there > who'd like the ability to know that when something's been deleted, it's > gone; no line, no waiting.. Rig

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-18 Thread Tim O'Brien
At 11:19 AM 6/18/97 +0200, you wrote: >Hi Tim, > >as far as I know the data is still there (until the blocks that it >occupies are reused). Unfortunately deleting for ext2fs meaning deleting >the last reference or pointer to the file. Consequently the file simply Is there a way to securely delete

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-17 Thread Christian Meder
On Jun 17, Tim O'Brien wrote > Under the FAT16 system when a file is deleted, it's only removed from the > FAT. Though the file appears gone, it still remains on the drive. > > When something is removed on a Linux box using the rm command, is the file > gone for good or is it just removed from vi

Re: Linux FS Question

1997-06-17 Thread Will Lowe
On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Tim O'Brien wrote: > When something is removed on a Linux box using the rm command, is the file > gone for good or is it just removed from view while it remains on the disk? Nope. It's pretty much gone forever. Will

Linux FS Question

1997-06-17 Thread Tim O'Brien
Under the FAT16 system when a file is deleted, it's only removed from the FAT. Though the file appears gone, it still remains on the drive. When something is removed on a Linux box using the rm command, is the file gone for good or is it just removed from view while it remains on the disk? Than