Re: Bug (?) affecting dramatically laptop battery life introduced in the latest debian testing updates

2017-11-28 Thread Thomas Amm
On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 12:37:10 -0500 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 11/27/17, Pietro Vischia wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > I apologize in advance if this is not the correct forum: I am > > following the instructions at > > https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting.en.html in the case in which > > the use

Re: Bug (?) affecting dramatically laptop battery life introduced in the latest debian testing updates

2017-11-27 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 11/27/17, Pietro Vischia wrote: > Dear All, > > I apologize in advance if this is not the correct forum: I am > following the instructions at > https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting.en.html in the case in which the > user is not sure of which package is affected. > > I have a Lenovo T460P, and

Re: Bug (?) affecting dramatically laptop battery life introduced in the latest debian testing updates

2017-11-27 Thread Anders Andersson
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Pietro Vischia wrote: > I have a Lenovo T460P, and with stretch I enjoyed a reasonable battery > life (~4 hours). At the beginning of November I switched to buster, > and things were still OK. > > Last week I made an upgrade as usual, and since reboot the battery >

Bug (?) affecting dramatically laptop battery life introduced in the latest debian testing updates

2017-11-27 Thread Pietro Vischia
Dear All, I apologize in advance if this is not the correct forum: I am following the instructions at https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting.en.html in the case in which the user is not sure of which package is affected. I have a Lenovo T460P, and with stretch I enjoyed a reasonable battery life (

laptop battery discharge: assistance requested

2016-01-16 Thread Paul
ug your laptop, let it run until it needs a charge and then plug it in. When your laptop has charged, email me the log file. Likely you'll already have the dependencies but just in case: aptitude install acpi xz-utils Get my logger script from: http://lookmumnohands.net/laptop-ba

Re: Laptop battery life with 64 bit

2012-12-20 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 20. 12. 2012 04:24:36 je Daniel Dalton napisal(a): On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:45:25PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Daniel Dalton wrote: > > But should the knew kernel really improve battery life by apparently > > 5-6 hours (according to powertop) > > Five to six hours of improvement would b

Re: Laptop battery life with 64 bit

2012-12-19 Thread Daniel Dalton
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:45:25PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Daniel Dalton wrote: > > But should the knew kernel really improve battery life by apparently > > 5-6 hours (according to powertop) > > Five to six hours of improvement would be a very large amount. > Probably more than is reasonable.

Re: Laptop battery life with 64 bit

2012-12-18 Thread Loic J. Duros
On 12/18/2012 02:45 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Daniel Dalton wrote: But should the knew kernel really improve battery life by apparently 5-6 hours (according to powertop) Five to six hours of improvement would be a very large amount. Probably more than is reasonable. But smaller amounts would not b

Re: Laptop battery life with 64 bit

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Daniel Dalton wrote: > But should the knew kernel really improve battery life by apparently > 5-6 hours (according to powertop) Five to six hours of improvement would be a very large amount. Probably more than is reasonable. But smaller amounts would not be unusual. > Wouldn't device drivers be

Re: Laptop battery life with 64 bit

2012-12-18 Thread Daniel Dalton
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:55:08PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Jochen Spieker wrote: > > Daniel Dalton wrote: > > > My question: does 64 bit debian use more battery power than 32 bit? > > > > Short answer: no. The relevant difference is probably Debian vs. Ubuntu > > here. > > Agreed. The differ

Re: Laptop battery life with 64 bit

2012-12-18 Thread Daniel Dalton
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:39:17AM +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Daniel Dalton: > > > > My question: does 64 bit debian use more battery power than 32 bit? > > Short answer: no. The relevant difference is probably Debian vs. Ubuntu > here. Good news. So now just to figure out how ubuntu is out

Re: Laptop battery life with 64 bit

2012-12-17 Thread Bob Proulx
Jochen Spieker wrote: > Daniel Dalton wrote: > > My question: does 64 bit debian use more battery power than 32 bit? > > Short answer: no. The relevant difference is probably Debian vs. Ubuntu > here. Agreed. The difference is probably the linux kernel version. Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" h

Re: Laptop battery life with 64 bit

2012-12-17 Thread Jochen Spieker
Daniel Dalton: > > My question: does 64 bit debian use more battery power than 32 bit? Short answer: no. The relevant difference is probably Debian vs. Ubuntu here. > Should I return to a 32 bit set up if battery life is important to me? > Or is there perhaps something that maybe isn't configur

Laptop battery life with 64 bit

2012-12-17 Thread Daniel Dalton
Hi, Before I do too much investigating I was wondering if anyone might be able to give me a simple yes/no answer to this question. I just installed debian 64 bit amd on my Dell vostro 3350 laptop. I turn all of the wifi bluetooth and screen off (I'm blind) and observe power using powertop.

Re: laptop battery cycling

2012-05-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 28 May 2012 08:16:53 +0200, steef wrote in message <4fc31855.9080...@home.nl>: > acpi -b (?) ..I raise you "i": arnt@celsius:/tmp$ acpi -bi Battery 0: Unknown, 91% Battery 0: design capacity 5200 mAh, last full capacity 5200 mAh = 100% arnt@celsius:/tmp$ ..acpi -V and acpi -h are also

Re: laptop battery cycling

2012-05-28 Thread Chris Knadle
On Sunday, May 27, 2012 21:37:49, Robert Holtzman wrote: > For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery. > > In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on AC > with the battery installed because it would cause reduced battery > capacity. That's correct m

Re: laptop battery cycling

2012-05-28 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 27 May 2012 18:37:49 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery. > > In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on AC > with the battery installed because it would cause reduced battery > capacity. This raises tw

Re: laptop battery cycling

2012-05-28 Thread green
Robert Holtzman wrote at 2012-05-27 20:37 -0500: > how many cycles is a battery like mine good for? If your laptop supports SMAPI, *use it*. In my opinion, it *really* helps increase the lifespan of the battery. It is unfortunate that more devices do not support SMAPI or an equivalent. My bat

Re: laptop battery cycling

2012-05-28 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 28/05/12 14:01, Doug wrote: > On 05/27/2012 09:57 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 28/05/12 11:37, Robert Holtzman wrote: >>> For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery. >>> >>> In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on >>> AC with the battery inst

Re: laptop battery cycling

2012-05-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-05-28 at 07:10 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2012-05-28 at 00:01 -0400, Doug wrote: > > On 05/27/2012 09:57 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > > On 28/05/12 11:37, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > >> For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery. > > >> > > >> In the pas

Re: laptop battery cycling

2012-05-27 Thread steef
acpi -b (?) reg., steef Doug wrote: On 05/27/2012 09:57 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 28/05/12 11:37, Robert Holtzman wrote: For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery. In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on AC with the battery installed

Re: laptop battery cycling

2012-05-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-05-28 at 00:01 -0400, Doug wrote: > On 05/27/2012 09:57 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > On 28/05/12 11:37, Robert Holtzman wrote: > >> For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery. > >> > >> In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on > >> AC

Re: laptop battery cycling

2012-05-27 Thread Doug
On 05/27/2012 09:57 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 28/05/12 11:37, Robert Holtzman wrote: For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery. In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on AC with the battery installed because it would cause reduced battery c

Re: laptop battery cycling

2012-05-27 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 28/05/12 11:37, Robert Holtzman wrote: > For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery. > > In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on > AC with the battery installed because it would cause reduced battery > capacity. Your Li-ion battery will have

laptop battery cycling

2012-05-27 Thread Robert Holtzman
For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery. In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on AC with the battery installed because it would cause reduced battery capacity. This raises two questions. First, is it true that laptop batteries don't have overc

Re: Laptop Battery problem

2012-02-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:08:28 +0100, Lorenzo wrote in message <4f42b64c.3010...@gmail.com>: > On 18/02/2012 22:36, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > I've read about the freezer thing wonder if it works. > ..every time this far, but dragging along a freezer to boot up a laptop, sort of defeats the laptop c

Re: Laptop Battery problem

2012-02-20 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
or Ebay, you can then gut the worst battery and fit new cells into the gutted battery housing. ..another way to extend laptop battery time, is stuff a laptop size box full of lipo cells to match the charge plug voltage, and drain the lipo box first, then have the laptop start draining its bat

Re: Laptop Battery problem

2012-02-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
just > > easier to increase the warning level in Power Manager. > HP advices a procedure (Windows only) to 'recalibrate' the battery ..what kinda battery, LiPo, NiCd, NiMH? They have slightly different discharge profiles, but "dive steeper" as they age. If you can

Re: Laptop Battery problem

2012-02-17 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
Hi Darac, Thanks for the very insightful information... On 17/02/12 13:38, Darac Marjal wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 01:10:31PM +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: I am running XFCE 4.8 on debian wheezy on my laptop and since about two weeks the xfce Power Manager gets the battery charge percentage

Re: Laptop Battery problem

2012-02-17 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 01:10:31PM +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > I am running XFCE 4.8 on debian wheezy on my laptop and since about > two weeks the xfce Power Manager gets the battery charge percentage > wrong, the most critical problem being that the machine shuts off > without any previous warn

Laptop Battery problem

2012-02-17 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
I am running XFCE 4.8 on debian wheezy on my laptop and since about two weeks the xfce Power Manager gets the battery charge percentage wrong, the most critical problem being that the machine shuts off without any previous warning. I wonder where the problem might be. Indeed this battery is

Fan control and laptop battery

2011-04-18 Thread Ivan Marin
Hi all, I'm using Debian sid on a Dell XPS, Core i7 with Nvidia. The battery duration and the fan control is much better on Windows 7 than on Debian, unfortunately. I'm trying to improve this situation, so 1) Can I trust on powertop and implement what it is telling me to do? For example, I cannot

Re: [Slightly OT] Laptop battery draining in Lenny

2010-07-30 Thread Christian Jaeger
2010/7/30 Mark : > Unless I'm reading the ThinkWiki wrong Tp_smapi is not compatible with my > machines... Then I don't know, you'll have to find out about alternatives yourself or hope someone else points them out, if they exist (I also guess not all hardware allows to do that). Ch. -- To UNS

Re: [Slightly OT] Laptop battery draining in Lenny

2010-07-30 Thread Lawrence Cadden
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Christian Jaeger wrote: > 2010/7/30 Mark : > > Thank you Christian. Correct, Li-ion is the discussion here. So is > there a > > way to keep the battery in the laptop, without it charging to 100%? Both > > machines in this case are Dell's, one Inspiron and one X

Re: [Slightly OT] Laptop battery draining in Lenny

2010-07-30 Thread Mark
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Christian Jaeger wrote: > 2010/7/30 Mark : > > Thank you Christian. Correct, Li-ion is the discussion here. So is > there a > > way to keep the battery in the laptop, without it charging to 100%? Both > > machines in this case are Dell's, one Inspiron and one X

Re: [Slightly OT] Laptop battery draining in Lenny

2010-07-30 Thread Christian Jaeger
2010/7/30 Mark : > Thank you Christian.  Correct, Li-ion is the discussion here.  So is there a > way to keep the battery in the laptop, without it charging to 100%?  Both > machines in this case are Dell's, one Inspiron and one XPS, both 5+ years > old. Yes, see the Tp_smapi link posted above (al

Re: [Slightly OT] Laptop battery draining in Lenny

2010-07-30 Thread Mark
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Christian Jaeger wrote: > 2010/7/30 Mark : > > Or do you shutdown when the battery > > reaches, say, 5%? > > > > I just ordered a few laptop battery replacements > > I guess you're talking about Lithium ion or Lithium poly

Re: [Slightly OT] Laptop battery draining in Lenny

2010-07-30 Thread Gilbert Sullivan
On 07/30/2010 08:08 PM, Christian Jaeger wrote: 2010/7/30 Mark: Or do you shutdown when the battery reaches, say, 5%? I just ordered a few laptop battery replacements I guess you're talking about Lithium ion or Lithium polymer batteries (as all modern devices are using either of

Re: [Slightly OT] Laptop battery draining in Lenny

2010-07-30 Thread Christian Jaeger
2010/7/30 Mark : > Or do you shutdown  when the battery > reaches, say, 5%? > > I just ordered a few laptop battery replacements I guess you're talking about Lithium ion or Lithium polymer batteries (as all modern devices are using either of those)? Then you do rather *not* want

RE: [Slightly OT] Laptop battery draining in Lenny

2010-07-30 Thread Mike Viau
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:24:52 -0700 Subject: [Slightly OT] Laptop battery draining in Lenny From: mamar...@gmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org I am curious how others on this list manage their laptop batteries while using Debian. From doing some research, there doesn't appear

Re: [Slightly OT] Laptop battery draining in Lenny

2010-07-30 Thread Michael Iatrou
When the date was Friday 30 of July 2010, Mark wrote: > I am curious how others on this list manage their laptop batteries while > using Debian. From doing some research, there doesn't appear to be many > (if any) software solutions for draining a laptop battery completely, >

[Slightly OT] Laptop battery draining in Lenny

2010-07-30 Thread Mark
I am curious how others on this list manage their laptop batteries while using Debian. From doing some research, there doesn't appear to be many (if any) software solutions for draining a laptop battery completely, before recharging. So what do people on this list do - just keep running D

Re: Why does the laptop battery last longer with Windows than with Debian?

2009-05-07 Thread Micha Feigin
On Wed, 6 May 2009 13:01:59 + Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 03:45:17PM +0200, Kaixi Luo wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm a new Linux user (currently using Debian 5 testing) and I've noticed > > that the battery of my laptop used to last much longer with Windows Vista (4 > > hours)

Re: Why does the laptop battery last longer with Windows than with Debian?

2009-05-06 Thread PierPaolo
...sorry: On Th(...) > > >> Less memory may mean more disk activity as you need more swapping and >> have less memory to cache access to the disk. More disk activity >> probably increases the power consumption (if the disk can't rest). >> >> -- >> > So can you put SWAP in a ram file ??? >

Re: Why does the laptop battery last longer with Windows than with Debian?

2009-05-06 Thread PierPaolo
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 15:01, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 03:45:17PM +0200, Kaixi Luo wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm a new Linux user (currently using Debian 5 testing) and I've noticed > > that the battery of my laptop used to last much longer with Windows Vista > (4 > > hours) t

Re: Why does the laptop battery last longer with Windows than with Debian?

2009-05-06 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 03:45:17PM +0200, Kaixi Luo wrote: > Hello, > I'm a new Linux user (currently using Debian 5 testing) and I've noticed > that the battery of my laptop used to last much longer with Windows Vista (4 > hours) than with Debian (2.5 hours). How's that possible?I mean, Debian >

Re: Why does the laptop battery last longer with Windows than with Debian?

2009-05-03 Thread Kaixi Luo
Thank you all for the helpful suggestions. I'll take a look at the links you've provided. :) Kaixi

Re: Why does the laptop battery last longer with Windows than with Debian?

2009-05-03 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Some useful readings on the topic: How to reduce power consumption - ThinkWiki http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_reduce_power_consumption HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling - Debian Wiki http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling Good power management practices http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/pow

Re: Why does the laptop battery last longer with Windows than with Debian?

2009-05-02 Thread Micha Feigin
sible?I mean, Debian > uses much less RAM (250 MB) than Vista (1 GB). > > Also, is there anything I can do to improve my laptop battery life? > > Thanks, > > Kaixi Some things you can improve on, such as installing laptopmode (and possibly configuring it more or less aggre

Re: Why does the laptop battery last longer with Windows than with Debian?

2009-05-02 Thread Christofer C. Bell
sible?I mean, Debian > uses much less RAM (250 MB) than Vista (1 GB). > > Also, is there anything I can do to improve my laptop battery life? > You may consider doing the following: As a normal user, run the command "tasksel --list-tasks" and ensure that "laptop" h

Re: Why does the laptop battery last longer with Windows than with Debian?

2009-05-02 Thread T o n g
On Sat, 02 May 2009 15:45:17 +0200, Kaixi Luo wrote: > the battery of my laptop used to last much longer with Windows Vista (4 > hours) than with Debian (2.5 hours). How's that possible? I bet that your Debian's power saving is not enabled by default. You've got to do some preliminary readings

Re: Why does the laptop battery last longer with Windows than with Debian?

2009-05-02 Thread Nuno Magalhães
That's really weird... I suggest you post your laptop's maker/model and whether you installed any specific packages or just chose "desktop" when installing. Maybe some program's doing a lot of I/O or something. Maybe thi'll help you tweak your system: http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn HT

Why does the laptop battery last longer with Windows than with Debian?

2009-05-02 Thread Kaixi Luo
Also, is there anything I can do to improve my laptop battery life? Thanks, Kaixi

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-20 Thread Mike McCarty
john gennard wrote: I am most grateful to the seventeen persons who responded to my request; it would take up a lot of list space to reply to each. In a few weeks, I'll be 76 and do not need to use a battery as I've no intention or need to take the machine outdoors. I could easily buy a

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-18 Thread M-L
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 01:14 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: >> > AFAIK thinkpads will not run without butteries. Don't know if its a > design > > feature of flaw though. >> >> Nope, they run without the battery.  Had my roommate unplug the > battery while > in the truck the other day by a

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-18 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 18 February 2006 16:27, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:32:48 + > > john gennard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am most grateful to the seventeen persons who > > responded to my request; it would take up a lot of list > > space to reply to each. > > > > In a f

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-18 Thread M-L
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:42 am, M-L wrote: >> [installed with win2.1] Sorry, that should be win 3.1 -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++ We need only travel enough to give our intellects an airing. .Henry David Thoreau

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-18 Thread M-L
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:27 am, Micha Feigin wrote: >> AFAIK thinkpads will not run without butteries. Don't know if its a > design > feature of flaw though. >> >> Not sure what would happen with a dead battery. I can't speak for Thinkpads, but previously I had a brand that I can't e

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-18 Thread M-L
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 08:32 pm, john gennard wrote: >> a. Is it harmful to use the Laptop with Adapter >> without any battery on board? No way, works a treat without the battery. My brother-in-law has used a Toshiba laptop without a battery for 5 years and it runs like on rails still. I ha

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-18 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:32:48 + john gennard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am most grateful to the seventeen persons who > responded to my request; it would take up a lot of list > space to reply to each. > > In a few weeks, I'll be 76 and do not need to > use a battery as I've no

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-18 Thread Marc Shapiro
john gennard wrote: a. Is it harmful to use the Laptop with Adapter without any battery on board? My laptop (used Thinkpad 390 from E-bay with DOA battery) required that the battery, even though totally dead, be in the laptop to run off of the adaptor. Without the battery, the circuit

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, john gennard wrote: > a. Is it harmful to use the Laptop with Adapter > WITHOUT any battery on board? You have got a IBM ThinkPad. It is higly doubtful that the machine would care if the battery is plugged in or not, but it is certain that if it does, the manual warns a

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 18 February 2006 04:32, john gennard wrote: > I am most grateful to the seventeen persons who >responded to my request; it would take up a lot of list >space to reply to each. > > In a few weeks, I'll be 76 and do not need to >use a battery as I've no intention or need to take the >mach

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-18 Thread john gennard
I am most grateful to the seventeen persons who responded to my request; it would take up a lot of list space to reply to each. In a few weeks, I'll be 76 and do not need to use a battery as I've no intention or need to take the machine outdoors. I could easily buy a new battery,

Re: Laptop Battery

2006-02-17 Thread Gnu-Raiz
Just for those who want to read up on this subject, from a non engineer point of view you might want to check out this link, or read the gentleman's fine book. http://www.buchmann.ca/toc.asp This topic came up on the 1.7 volt Panasonic battery topic I was involved with some time ago. Oh if you

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread M-L
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 04:51 am, john gennard wrote: >> Just before Christmas, I bought a secondhand T20 >> Laptop and installed Sarge which works fine. >> >> The vendor said there was a battery which 'worked >> well'. Embarrassingly, I have so far always used the T20 >> with

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Micha Feigin wrote: > If the battery is Li-Ion then their nice due to relatively high capacity and > presumably no memory but they have a lifespan of about two to two and a half > years without regard to usage (storing them half charged when not used is best > though). T20s ha

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread Micha Feigin
Sorry the sent button took me by surprise and for a change it had to work the first time. On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:07:46 +0200 Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:51:59 + > john gennard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Just before Christmas, I bought a secondha

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread Mike McCarty
Paul Johnson wrote: Draining NiCds and NiMH batteries to empty is harmful. Don't do it, you're asking for permanent battery damage. It only works as a stopgap measure if As a little bit more info on that, a battery is a collection of cells. Not all the cells will discharge at exactly the s

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 17 February 2006 10:05, John M Flinchbaugh wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 05:51:59PM +, john gennard wrote: > > I've just recharged the battery which took just > > over 23 minutes to reach 'fully charged'. Then switching > > to it, in one minute I got 'Running off battery 11 min

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 17 February 2006 09:51, john gennard wrote: > Can anyone offer any suggestions (solice is perhaps > too much to hope for). I've never had anything to do with > Laptops before, so I'm in the dark. With batteries, they're not something you can buy used with any great reliability.

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread Kent West
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:51:59 + john gennard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just before Christmas, I bought a secondhand T20 Laptop and installed Sarge which works fine. The vendor said there was a battery which 'worked well'. I've just recharged the battery whi

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:51:59 + john gennard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just before Christmas, I bought a secondhand T20 > Laptop and installed Sarge which works fine. > > The vendor said there was a battery which 'worked > well'. Embarrassingly, I have so far always used the T20

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread Marc Shapiro
John M Flinchbaugh wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 01:19:32PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once the battery meter warned me that I had 0 minutes left, I rebooted it to the LILO prompt, stopped it there and let it drain the battery until it just died and couldn't be turned back on. I think

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread Craig M. Houck
Your battery she is deceased and no more. The good news is one can be had for not to much. I find on eBay from 1.47 (44 shipping) to about $80 I didn't chekc the shipping) for a thinkpad T20 battery. RbtBotL Craig - ><> oBU SysAdmin /|\ 607 777 6827 ^ Tot Ziens -- To UNSUBS

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread Mike McCarty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 01:05:21PM -0500, John M Flinchbaugh wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 05:51:59PM +, john gennard wrote: I've just recharged the battery which took just over 23 minutes to reach 'fully charged'. Then switching to it, in one minute I go

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread John M Flinchbaugh
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 01:19:32PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Once the battery meter warned me that I had 0 minutes left, I rebooted > > it to the LILO prompt, stopped it there and let it drain the battery > > until it just died and couldn't be turned back on. I think it ran for > > nearl

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread hendrik
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 01:05:21PM -0500, John M Flinchbaugh wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 05:51:59PM +, john gennard wrote: > > I've just recharged the battery which took just > > over 23 minutes to reach 'fully charged'. Then switching > > to it, in one minute I got 'Running off batter

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread hendrik
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 05:51:59PM +, john gennard wrote: > Just before Christmas, I bought a secondhand T20 > Laptop and installed Sarge which works fine. > > The vendor said there was a battery which 'worked > well'. Embarrassingly, I have so far always used the T20 > with the AC

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread Mike McCarty
john gennard wrote: Just before Christmas, I bought a secondhand T20 Laptop and installed Sarge which works fine. So far so good, as the man said when he fell past the twentieth floor. The vendor said there was a battery which 'worked well'. Embarrassingly, I have so far always used t

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread John M Flinchbaugh
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 05:51:59PM +, john gennard wrote: > I've just recharged the battery which took just > over 23 minutes to reach 'fully charged'. Then switching > to it, in one minute I got 'Running off battery 11 mins > left' quickly followed by 'running out 0 mins left'. > >

Re: Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread jlmb
> It would seem that I've been 'sold a pup', but > before getting a new one (assuming one can be found), I > just wondered if anything in the Debian software could be misconfigured. > The battery itself seems in almost pristine > condition to my inexperienced eyes. > No, that battery is damag

Laptop battery

2006-02-17 Thread john gennard
Just before Christmas, I bought a secondhand T20 Laptop and installed Sarge which works fine. The vendor said there was a battery which 'worked well'. Embarrassingly, I have so far always used the T20 with the AC Adapter. However, last evening I decided to use the battery to see h

NEVERMIND! Re: apm : hot laptop, battery status applet, suspend

2004-09-06 Thread SML
I meant to send this to the laptop mailing list. Sorry! > Hello: > > I'm running sarge on a gateway M305 and installed apm/apmd. But 1) the > battery status applet still says "no battery present", 2) the laptop > seems to be running hotter than it did before, and 3) when I try to > suspend (as r

apm : hot laptop, battery status applet, suspend

2004-09-06 Thread SML
Hello: I'm running sarge on a gateway M305 and installed apm/apmd. But 1) the battery status applet still says "no battery present", 2) the laptop seems to be running hotter than it did before, and 3) when I try to suspend (as root) the screen will blank and then return. The error on the suspend c

Re: Laptop battery

2003-10-01 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 06:44:51PM -0700, Steven Schlansker wrote: > Cool, apm works fine. How can I get it to go in my prompt? Backticks. Example: PS1='`pwd`: ' is an alternative method of getting the working directory in your prompt. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http

RE: Laptop battery

2003-09-30 Thread Joyce, Matthew
I really was very happy with it though. Matt -- > -Original Message- > From: Steven Schlansker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:02 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Laptop battery > > > Cool, apm works fine. How can I

Re: Laptop battery

2003-09-30 Thread Steven Schlansker
t to enable the driver. (You may need to add this option to your lilo command line.) Task: laptop -Original Message- From: Steven Schlansker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2003 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Laptop battery I have an ancient NEC Versa 408

Re: Laptop battery

2003-09-29 Thread Martin Jungowski
Hi, This should be possible via APM or ACPI. In the latter case make sure you have flashed the latest BIOS and have enabled ACPI in BIOS setup. In the first case, make sure you have enabled APM in BIOS setup. In any case, you may have to recompile the kernel to enable ACPI and/or APM. MJ On T

Laptop battery

2003-09-29 Thread Steven Schlansker
I have an ancient NEC Versa 4080H laptop, and I wiped Windows off of it to install Debian. I'd like to be able to check the power left in the battery. How would I do that? (Note that there's no X windows installed, so command line only please) Is there a /proc entry? I couldn't find one. T