Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-02-06 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Chris Jones wrote: > On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 01:09:13PM EST, Barclay, Daniel wrote: >> Dave Thayer wrote: >>> ... >>> >>> One nice bonus about having a powered hub is that it can be used to >>> recharge gadgets such as cellphones and mp3 players without having to >>> leave your computer on. >> Woul

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-02-05 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 01:09:13PM EST, Barclay, Daniel wrote: > Dave Thayer wrote: > >... > > > > One nice bonus about having a powered hub is that it can be used to > > recharge gadgets such as cellphones and mp3 players without having to > > leave your computer on. > > Wouldn't that work for u

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-02-05 Thread Chris Jones
On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 01:24:56AM EST, Dave Thayer wrote: > On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 07:23:38PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 12:46:22PM EST, Barclay, Daniel wrote: > > > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > > On Friday 2009 January 09 21:09:30 Chris Jones wrote: > > > ... >

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-02-05 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Dave Thayer wrote: >... > > One nice bonus about having a powered hub is that it can be used to > recharge gadgets such as cellphones and mp3 players without having to > leave your computer on. Wouldn't that work for unpowered hubs too? An unpowered hub can still supply 100mA to each port. Pres

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-02-03 Thread Dave Thayer
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 07:23:38PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 12:46:22PM EST, Barclay, Daniel wrote: > > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > On Friday 2009 January 09 21:09:30 Chris Jones wrote: > > ... > > > > >> 3. With only one USB port .. I'll need a hub.. will that wo

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-02-03 Thread Chris Jones
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 12:46:22PM EST, Barclay, Daniel wrote: > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Friday 2009 January 09 21:09:30 Chris Jones wrote: > ... > > >> 3. With only one USB port .. I'll need a hub.. will that work? > > > > For flash drives, yes. For external magnetic drives, only i

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-02-03 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/1/19 Mike McCarty : > A friend's home in another town nearby, or even just at the work > office can be "off site" if it's several miles away. [snip] > > I've got a sister who lives near Savannah, though I don't know > what the significance of living in Georgia is. Ah, that's easy. The signifi

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-02-03 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Friday 2009 January 09 21:09:30 Chris Jones wrote: ... >> 3. With only one USB port .. I'll need a hub.. will that work? > > For flash drives, yes. For external magnetic drives, only if it is powered. Of course, if your USB external disk has a separate power i

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-19 Thread Mike McCarty
Paul Cartwright wrote: I only plug it in to do backups. The rest of the time it is unplugged and away That's good. from the regualr PC. I have an UPS and 2 surge protectors between all my PC stuff and any electrical outlet. This IS a home system, and I don't really have access to an off-si

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-16 Thread Napoleon
Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 09:01:32PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: I burn my nightly backups to DVD's and mail them to a fictitious address in Guam--not first class of course.. and they are diligently returned to me 2-3 weeks later. What a waste of peoples time and resources.

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-16 Thread Bob Cox
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 02:12:06 +1300, Chris Bannister (mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz) wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 09:01:32PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > > I burn my nightly backups to DVD's and mail them to a fictitious address > > in Guam--not first class of course.. and they are diligent

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 09:01:32PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > I burn my nightly backups to DVD's and mail them to a fictitious address > in Guam--not first class of course.. and they are diligently returned to > me 2-3 weeks later. What a waste of peoples time and resources. Imagine if everybody

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-16 Thread Jeff D
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Chris Jones wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:41:42AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > > [..] > > > Even they are now standardized. > > > > http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=380&name=Laptop-Hard-Drives > > Thanks, but it looks like they're all SATA & and that

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/16/09 04:16, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: [snip] Not long ago this was more simple, as usb disks generally included IDE. Since it is sooo cool nowadays to have a sata disk, I assume that the SATA gives a higher throughput, and is easier to manufacture. Thus, the drive makers have, reasona

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/16/09 04:30, Chris Jones wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:41:42AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: [..] Even they are now standardized. http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=380&name=Laptop-Hard-Drives Thanks, but it looks like they're all SATA & and that's probably not bac

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:41:42AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: [..] > Even they are now standardized. > > http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=380&name=Laptop-Hard-Drives Thanks, but it looks like they're all SATA & and that's probably not backward-compatible with the old IDE in

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-16 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Jones wrote: > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 05:02:17AM EST, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > > [..] > >> Yes. I partition my external disk with a similar layout as my internal >> disk. I've several times upgraded my laptop with a larger, former usb >> d

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/15/09 19:30, Chris Jones wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 05:02:17AM EST, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: [..] Yes. I partition my external disk with a similar layout as my internal disk. I've several times upgraded my laptop with a larger, former usb drive by just swapping the disk within the

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-15 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:14:03PM EST, Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:30:32 -0500 > Chris Jones wrote: > > ... > > > I could have bought a 500GB "portable" external USB drive for c. $100.00 .. > > possibly less .. opened the case and provided the actual drive was the right > > form fac

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-15 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:30:32 -0500 Chris Jones wrote: ... > I could have bought a 500GB "portable" external USB drive for c. $100.00 .. > possibly less .. opened the case and provided the actual drive was the right > form factor, had holes in the right places so I could secure it to my laptop's

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-15 Thread Chris Jones
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 05:02:17AM EST, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: [..] > Yes. I partition my external disk with a similar layout as my internal > disk. I've several times upgraded my laptop with a larger, former usb > drive by just swapping the disk within the usb housing with the disk > within

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-15 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike McCarty wrote: > Johannes Wiedersich wrote: >> Chris Jones wrote: >>> Is there an altogether better/smarter/reliabl-er solution? >> >> IMHO, the smartest, fastest, most reliable and cheapest solution is to >> use external hard disks like usb-disks

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-15 Thread Eric De Mund
Paul, All, On Wed January 14 2009, Mike McCarty wrote: ] IMO, this is an inadequate strategy. Backup media need to be stored ] off-site. Certainly, your external drive needs to remain Paul Cartwright : ] I only plug it in to do backups. The rest of the time it is unplugged ] and away from the reg

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-15 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wed January 14 2009, Ron Johnson wrote: > But is my home data s valuable as to go to that much effort?  An > external HDD (which you can run out of the house with when the house > is on fire) is much easier. > exactly.. mine sits unplugged, and I can grab it on the way out the door. > If yo

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-15 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wed January 14 2009, Mike McCarty wrote: > > I would agree.. I use a $100 500Gb Mybook external as 1-part of my backup > > scheme. I use rsync and back up my desktop AND my laptop to the external > > HD. easy to specify folders and use a file for exceptions. > > IMO, this is an inadequate strate

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Jones
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 09:33:16PM EST, Richard Hector wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 21:01 -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > > > I burn my nightly backups to DVD's and mail them to a fictitious address > > in Guam--not first class of course.. and they are diligently returned to > > me 2-3 weeks later.

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-14 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:47:57 -0500 Chris Jones wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 05:22:47PM EST, Mike McCarty wrote: ... > > Which reminds me, it's time for my monthly :-) > > Aaah .. now, _that's_ not good .. your backups should be automated and > so you don't have to have to have something _r

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-14 Thread Richard Hector
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 21:01 -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > I burn my nightly backups to DVD's and mail them to a fictitious address > in Guam--not first class of course.. and they are diligently returned to > me 2-3 weeks later. Encrypted DVDs, I hope? Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/14/09 20:01, Chris Jones wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 05:52:19PM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/14/09 15:04, Mike McCarty wrote: [snip] This is also much more expensive, if one is doing real backups. A real backup (as opposed to simply a second copy nearby) is stored off site. So, one wo

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Jones
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 05:52:19PM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/14/09 15:04, Mike McCarty wrote: > [snip] > > > >This is also much more expensive, if one is doing real backups. > >A real backup (as opposed to simply a second copy nearby) is > >stored off site. So, one would need to rotate extern

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Jones
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 05:22:47PM EST, Mike McCarty wrote: > Richard Hector wrote: [...] > >That's obviously true in an ideal sense. But even the local external > >disk (or even internal disk) is vastly superior to having none at all > >... > > It's just true in all senses. > > I don't disagre

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-14 Thread owens
> > > > Original Message >From: mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Subject: Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's >Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:07:18 -0600 > >>H.S. wrote: >>> Currently, I backup my /home to a partition on a

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/14/09 15:04, Mike McCarty wrote: [snip] This is also much more expensive, if one is doing real backups. A real backup (as opposed to simply a second copy nearby) is stored off site. So, one would need to rotate external discs for this to be a viable backup means. Usually one uses at least

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/14/09 16:22, Mike McCarty wrote: [snip] (1) Off site storage; if my house burns down, then my data are still safe (my backup is 13 miles from my house, so an atom bomb will probably destroy all copies) "Big" countries haven't had any A-bombs in many, many decades, and "little" countries

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-14 Thread Mike McCarty
Richard Hector wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 15:05 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: Paul Cartwright wrote: I would agree.. I use a $100 500Gb Mybook external as 1-part of my backup scheme. I use rsync and back up my desktop AND my laptop to the external HD. easy to specify folders and use a file for

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-14 Thread Richard Hector
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 15:05 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: > Paul Cartwright wrote: > > I would agree.. I use a $100 500Gb Mybook external as 1-part of my backup > > scheme. I use rsync and back up my desktop AND my laptop to the external > > HD. > > easy to specify folders and use a file for except

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-14 Thread Mike McCarty
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Jones wrote: Is there an altogether better/smarter/reliabl-er solution? IMHO, the smartest, fastest, most reliable and cheapest solution is to use external hard disks like usb-disks. You could reuse the same disk f

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-14 Thread Mike McCarty
H.S. wrote: Currently, I backup my /home to a partition on a second hard disk in my desktop. The photos are mounted on a different desktop in a partition on a hard disk which is shared via samba so that anyone on my home lan can view them. That partition is backed up on to an external USB hard di

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-14 Thread Mike McCarty
Paul Cartwright wrote: I would agree.. I use a $100 500Gb Mybook external as 1-part of my backup scheme. I use rsync and back up my desktop AND my laptop to the external HD. easy to specify folders and use a file for exceptions. IMO, this is an inadequate strategy. Backup media need to be stor

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-12 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun January 11 2009, Chris Jones wrote: > > My (laptop) burner claims to do lightscribe - but it needs special > > (expensive?) disks, doesn't it? And produces labels that the drive still > > can't read? > > I'm pretty sure mine isn't .. but I have no evidence to the contrary > either. > > I've

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-11 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 08:59:39PM EST, Richard Hector wrote: > On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 19:49 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 01/11/09 19:24, Richard Hector wrote: > > > On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 20:03 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > >> On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:29:54PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-11 Thread Richard Hector
On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 19:49 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/11/09 19:24, Richard Hector wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 20:03 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:29:54PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > >> > >>> I'd be tempted to just write on something that never need

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/11/09 19:24, Richard Hector wrote: On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 20:03 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:29:54PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: I'd be tempted to just write on something that never needs erasing - either a name that makes sense in a repeating cycle (eg 'Mon

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-11 Thread Richard Hector
On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 20:03 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:29:54PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > > > I'd be tempted to just write on something that never needs erasing - > > either a name that makes sense in a repeating cycle (eg 'Monday', > > 'Tuesday' etc) or just

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:29:54PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > I'd be tempted to just write on something that never needs erasing - > either a name that makes sense in a repeating cycle (eg 'Monday', > 'Tuesday' etc) or just an index number, and keep a separate record of > which disk you need

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-11 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat January 10 2009, H.S. wrote: > Brand and model is, I think, a personal choice depending on quality. > Most important of these is the size and a reliable brand. For example, I > have a little portable hard disk here (320GB I think) which I can > connect to a laptop. It draws its power from th

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-10 Thread H.S.
Chris Jones wrote: > > Raises a few other issues. > > 1. How do I determine if a modern USB drive will work with USB 1.1? Unless I am totally mistaken, USB is backward compatible. > 2. What brand, model, size do you recommend? Brand and model is, I think, a personal choice depending on quality

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-10 Thread H.S.
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Chris Jones wrote: >> Is there an altogether better/smarter/reliabl-er solution? > > IMHO, the smartest, fastest, most reliable and cheapest solution is to > use external hard disks like usb-disks. You could reuse the same disk I agree with this. I have tackled the pr

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-10 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Chris Jones wrote: > On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 03:49:29AM EST, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: >> Chris Jones wrote: >>> Is there an altogether better/smarter/reliabl-er solution? >> IMHO, the smartest, fastest, most reliable and cheapest solution is to >> use external hard disks like usb-disks. > Raise

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 2009 January 09 21:09:30 Chris Jones wrote: >1. How do I determine if a modern USB drive will work with USB 1.1? All drives should work with USB 1.1; it may be slow but it should work. >3. With only one USB port .. I'll need a hub.. will that work? For flash drives, yes. For external

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-09 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 03:49:29AM EST, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Chris Jones wrote: > > Is there an altogether better/smarter/reliabl-er solution? > > IMHO, the smartest, fastest, most reliable and cheapest solution is to > use external hard

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Fri January 9 2009, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > IMHO, the smartest, fastest, most reliable and cheapest solution is to > use external hard disks like usb-disks. You could reuse the same disk > for more or less unlimited rw-cycles for an average lifetime of at least > around 3 years (probably mu

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-09 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Jones wrote: > Is there an altogether better/smarter/reliabl-er solution? IMHO, the smartest, fastest, most reliable and cheapest solution is to use external hard disks like usb-disks. You could reuse the same disk for more or less unlimited rw-

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-09 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Magolske wrote: > There seems to be some controversy regarding the use of Sharpie-type > permanent markers to write on optical disk media: > > Numerous CD vendors have noted that the thin protective lacquer [snip] CDs and DVDs are fundament

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-09 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sam Kuper wrote: > 2009/1/8 Chris Jones > >> Any recommendations? Or just any toothpaste will do? > I put mine in the dishwasher. LOL Do you use the low temperature eco programme or is the the hot programme better? Or do you just use the hot progr

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-08 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:27:29PM EST, Brian McKee wrote: > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > I'd just by DVD-R in bulk and shred them as required. The reason I chose rewritables is that I was trying to find some way I could do backups w/o any manual intervention & w/o acquir

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-08 Thread steve
Chris Jones wrote: > > Any recommendations? Or just any toothpaste will do? ive used colgate regular paste, but probably any will do. works good for scratches on cd/dvd as well! > > Also, If found a web page that recommends water and vinegar among other fancy > stuff such as the mild abrasives t

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-08 Thread Brian McKee
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > For my backups, I bought a DVD burner and a pack of DVD+RW's but I'm stuck > with one major issue. > > The upside of the DVD+RW's is kind of a yellow-gold-bronze color and I can't > seem to find any way I can write anything on them. > > Does any

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/08/09 13:00, Christopher Judd wrote: Methylene chloride (paint remover) will dissolve polycarbonate, so don't use any solvents that contain it. But huffing it is s col!. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "I am not surprised, for we live long and are celebrated poopers."

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-08 Thread Christopher Judd
On Thursday 08 January 2009, Chris Jones wrote: > ... > > I guess I'm a little detail dis-oriented .. never bother to look at > brand names on stuff like that.. found a couple of pentels in my > drawer at work, but no sharpies. > > > Rubbing alcohol is probably destructive to plastic optical >

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-08 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/1/8 Chris Jones > On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 07:59:47AM EST, Sam Kuper wrote: > > 2009/1/8 Chris Jones > > > I have one that used to work OK on silver-colored CD's but does not on > > > the DVD+RW's I bought .. That's why I thought I'd ask before buying > > > anything > > > else. > > That's de

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-08 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 07:59:47AM EST, Sam Kuper wrote: > 2009/1/8 Chris Jones > > I have one that used to work OK on silver-colored CD's but does not on > > the DVD+RW's I bought .. That's why I thought I'd ask before buying anything > > else. > > That's deeply weird. Are they Teflon-coated DVD

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-08 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/1/8 Chris Jones > Any recommendations? Or just any toothpaste will do? > I put mine in the dishwasher.

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-08 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:14:44AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/08/09 06:53, Chris Jones wrote: > >On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 01:33:17AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > >>On 01/07/09 22:40, steve wrote: > >>>Ron Johnson wrote: > > > >Sorry for being unclear .. I meant I practically neve write on plastic,

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-08 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 2009 January 08 06:59:47 Sam Kuper wrote: >2009/1/8 Chris Jones >> I have one that used to work OK on silver-colored CD's but does not on >> the DVD+RW's I bought .. That's why I thought I'd ask before buying >> anything else. > >That's deeply weird. Are they Teflon-coated DVD+RW's? H

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/08/09 06:53, Chris Jones wrote: On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 01:33:17AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/07/09 22:40, steve wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Sorry for being unclear .. I meant I practically neve write on plastic, leather .. etc. just paper .. and apart from stuff like checks etc. I use

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-08 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/1/8 Chris Jones > I have one that used to work OK on silver-colored CD's but does not on > the DVD+RW's I bought .. That's why I thought I'd ask before buying anything > else. That's deeply weird. Are they Teflon-coated DVD+RW's? Seriously, I'd check whether your pen still works on your sil

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-08 Thread Chris Jones
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 11:59:07PM EST, John Magolske wrote: > * Ron Johnson [090107 18:59]: > > On 01/07/09 19:19, Chris Jones wrote: > >> Does anyone know of a magical pen that would write something legible > >> on that surface and possibly come with an eraser so that I can reuse > >> them and s

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-08 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 01:33:17AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/07/09 22:40, steve wrote: > >Ron Johnson wrote: Sorry for being unclear .. I meant I practically neve write on plastic, leather .. etc. just paper .. and apart from stuff like checks etc. I use cheap mechanical pencils. As to Shar

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-07 Thread John Magolske
* Ron Johnson [090107 18:59]: > On 01/07/09 19:19, Chris Jones wrote: >> Does anyone know of a magical pen that would write something legible >> on that surface and possibly come with an eraser so that I can reuse >> them and still have a clue what I used them for? > > Sharpies don't work? There

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/07/09 22:40, steve wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Rubbing alcohol is probably destructive to plastic optical media. most definately, but using a sharpie to write on and toothpaste to remove isnt. thats what ive used anyway. That's the 2nd thing I've learned this month. One more and that

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-07 Thread steve
Ron Johnson wrote: > > Rubbing alcohol is probably destructive to plastic optical media. > > most definately, but using a sharpie to write on and toothpaste to remove isnt. thats what ive used anyway. -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-07 Thread Richard Hector
[Chris - sorry for the accidental direct reply] On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 22:52 -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > Actually, I've never bought a Sharpie in my life to be honest - I only use > pencils. But it looks like they're inexpensive & that my local Staples might > have them. > > Do they have an eras

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/07/09 21:52, Chris Jones wrote: On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 09:47:53PM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/07/09 19:19, Chris Jones wrote: [..] Is there an altogether better/smarter/reliabl-er solution? Sharpies work on every optical disk I've ever needed to write on. Actually, I've never bou

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-07 Thread Daryl Styrk
> Actually, I've never bought a Sharpie in my life to be honest - I only use > pencils. But it looks like they're inexpensive & that my local Staples might > have them. > > Do they have an eraser to go with that .. or do I use rubbing alcohol? > > Thanks! > > CJ > > Most Sharpies are perman

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-07 Thread Chris Jones
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 09:47:53PM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/07/09 19:19, Chris Jones wrote: [..] > >Is there an altogether better/smarter/reliabl-er solution? > > Sharpies work on every optical disk I've ever needed to write on. Actually, I've never bought a Sharpie in my life to be hone

Re: Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/07/09 19:19, Chris Jones wrote: For my backups, I bought a DVD burner and a pack of DVD+RW's but I'm stuck with one major issue. The upside of the DVD+RW's is kind of a yellow-gold-bronze color and I can't seem to find any way I can write anything on them. Does anyone know of a magical

Labeling backup DVD+RW's

2009-01-07 Thread Chris Jones
For my backups, I bought a DVD burner and a pack of DVD+RW's but I'm stuck with one major issue. The upside of the DVD+RW's is kind of a yellow-gold-bronze color and I can't seem to find any way I can write anything on them. Does anyone know of a magical pen that would write something legible on