Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is notconnected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread gene heskett
On 6/2/25 11:27, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 3:34 PM BST, Titus Newswanger wrote: In that case, if original poster's mini-pc won't boot without HDMI monitor, maybe like others suggested, a dummy connector. A search on places like Amazon for "HDMI dummy plug" finds a lot of opt

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 3:34 PM BST, Titus Newswanger wrote: In that case, if original poster's mini-pc won't boot without HDMI monitor, maybe like others suggested, a dummy connector. A search on places like Amazon for "HDMI dummy plug" finds a lot of options. To be honest, I had not realized su

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Fred
On 6/2/25 06:47, Joe wrote: On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 13:57:23 +0100 "Jonathan Dowland" wrote: On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 12:18 PM BST, Joe wrote: Certainly the Raspberry Pi OS (closely based on Debian, formerly called Raspbian) allows headless use. The issue (for those machines that have it) is not t

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Titus Newswanger
On 6/2/25 09:05, Fred wrote: The original poster said he "did not see at all" and didn't want to waste the monitor power consumption. Sorry, I overlooked that. I was so thinking "headless server"... In that case, if original poster's mini-pc won't boot without HDMI monitor, maybe like other

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread jeremy ardley
On 2/6/25 21:47, Joe wrote: I mention the OS in case an alternative (there are) did demand a monitor. Both ends of HDMI certainly know whether the other end is connected, many sources will not power up unless they see a live sink, and sinks will usually not fully power the interface unless they

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Joe
On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 13:57:23 +0100 "Jonathan Dowland" wrote: > On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 12:18 PM BST, Joe wrote: > > Certainly the Raspberry Pi OS (closely based on Debian, formerly > > called Raspbian) allows headless use. > > The issue (for those machines that have it) is not the OS: it's the

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Dan Ritter
Stanislav Vlasov wrote: > > Or unfortunately, firmware will recognize this fact automatically and > > will not allow me to load GRUB and boot The kernel:? > > It's your bios settings, not Debian issue. > > > I do not see at all so I want to use 20 Watts energy comsumption with no > > need to use

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Titus Newswanger
On 6/2/25 00:29, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate Mate? Am I correct, that is a desktop environment? I don't know anything about mate. With some d.e., If you configure networking etc in a gui while logged into a d.e. then remove mo

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 12:18 PM BST, Joe wrote: Certainly the Raspberry Pi OS (closely based on Debian, formerly called Raspbian) allows headless use. The issue (for those machines that have it) is not the OS: it's the firmware (artist formerly known as BIOS). If that does not support headles

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
пн, 2 июн. 2025 г. в 13:35, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel : > > Dear users and developers, > I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on mini > PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor connected to > provided HDMI output connector. Always or after i

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread jeremy ardley
On 2/6/25 20:46, Charles Curley wrote: You will need a monitor to install, and then some way of administering the machine afterwards, typically an SSH server. Many SBC do not have a monitor tor start with. It is not a problem to have them start up with a SSH server to administer, or at worst

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 07:29:53 +0200 "Mgr. Janusz Chmiel" wrote: >     I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on > mini PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor connected > to provided HDMI output connector. You did not say which mini-PC you

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Titus Newswanger
okworm. On 6/2/25 00:29, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: Dear users and developers,     I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on mini PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor connected to provided HDMI output connector. Does build in firmware written in Assembly all

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Joe
On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 10:46:05 +0100 "Jonathan Dowland" wrote: > On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 6:29 AM BST, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: > > Dear users and developers, > >     I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on > > mini PC with 8 GB of RAM if

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Jun 2, 2025 at 6:29 AM BST, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: Dear users and developers,     I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on mini PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor connected to provided HDMI output connector. It depends on the specific

Re: is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-01 Thread jeremy ardley
On 2/6/25 13:29, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: It is possible on Raspbery but I Am afraid, that mini PCS firmwares will not allow Me to boot The system at all. What do you think? You need to be specific what mini PC you are talking about and its processor type. Most ARM based single board co

is it possible to use debian with mini PC when display is not connected to hdmi

2025-06-01 Thread Mgr. Janusz Chmiel
Dear users and developers,     I would like to know, if is it possible to use Debian Mate on mini PC with 8 GB of RAM if I will not use external monitor connected to provided HDMI output connector. Does build in firmware written in Assembly allow Me to simply boot The Debian kernel if The

Re: Creality don't sound great (Was: Re: Is it possible to downgrade openssl?)

2023-08-04 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 11:33 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > Andy Smith wrote: > > > > Sounds like an absolutely shit-tier company. I hope there are > > alternatives in the 3d-printing world, a world that I know almost > > nothing about. > > Many, but Creality makes really cheap 3D printers, so > lots of

Re: Creality don't sound great (Was: Re: Is it possible to downgrade openssl?)

2023-07-30 Thread Dan Ritter
Andy Smith wrote: > > Sounds like an absolutely shit-tier company. I hope there are > alternatives in the 3d-printing world, a world that I know almost > nothing about. Many, but Creality makes really cheap 3D printers, so lots of people buy them. -dsr-

Creality don't sound great (Was: Re: Is it possible to downgrade openssl?)

2023-07-30 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 08:11:38AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > But Creality apparently disapproves of the hack and so has > disabled it in the latest firmware. So what I have learned from this thread is that there is a company called Creality which: - Supplies known-broken AppImages o

Re: Is it possible to downgrade openssl?

2023-07-30 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 10:42 PM Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 30/07/2023 05:16, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > I'd already reached the conclusion that messing with openssl was a bad > > idea. Unfortunately, Creality is unresponsive to pleas to fix their > > software. > > I have no experience with 3d pri

Re: Is it possible to downgrade openssl?

2023-07-29 Thread gene heskett
On 7/29/23 13:52, Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 10:42 AM wrote: Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On 28/07/2023 17:04, Patrick Wiseman wrote: I have an AppImage from Creality which segfaults with a QT ssl error. Googling tells me that the latest version of OpenSSL (3.x) omits som

Re: Is it possible to downgrade openssl?

2023-07-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 30/07/2023 05:16, Patrick Wiseman wrote: I'd already reached the conclusion that messing with openssl was a bad idea. Unfortunately, Creality is unresponsive to pleas to fix their software. I have no experience with 3d printers at all, but I am curious concerning any progress with a sugg

Re: Is it possible to downgrade openssl?

2023-07-29 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sat, Jul 29, 2023, 6:03 PM Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 04:14:30PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 4:10 PM Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 28 Jul 2023 at 16:04:10 -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > > > any way to revert to an earlier version of OpenS

Re: Is it possible to downgrade openssl?

2023-07-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 04:14:30PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 4:10 PM Brian wrote: > > On Fri 28 Jul 2023 at 16:04:10 -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > > any way to revert to an earlier version of OpenSSL? I'm on an up-to-date > > > bookworm system. > > > > Insta

Re: Is it possible to downgrade openssl?

2023-07-29 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 10:42 AM wrote: > Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > On 28/07/2023 17:04, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > > I have an AppImage from Creality which segfaults with a QT ssl > > > error. Googling tells me that the latest version of OpenSSL (3.x) > > > omits some X509 functionality,

Re: Is it possible to downgrade openssl?

2023-07-29 Thread debian-user
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On 28/07/2023 17:04, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > I have an AppImage from Creality which segfaults with a QT ssl > > error. Googling tells me that the latest version of OpenSSL (3.x) > > omits some X509 functionality, which can be found in OpenSSL-1.1. > > (And someone

Re: Is it possible to downgrade openssl?

2023-07-29 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 28/07/2023 17:04, Patrick Wiseman wrote: I have an AppImage from Creality which segfaults with a QT ssl error. Googling tells me that the latest version of OpenSSL (3.x) omits some X509 functionality, which can be found in OpenSSL-1.1. (And someone reports that installing it solves the probl

Re: Is it possible to downgrade openssl?

2023-07-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 09:10:08PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 28 Jul 2023 at 16:04:10 -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > > I have an AppImage from Creality which segfaults with a QT ssl error. > > Googling tells me that the latest version of OpenSSL (3.x) omits some X509 > > functionality, which

Re: Is it possible to downgrade openssl?

2023-07-28 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 4:10 PM Brian wrote: > On Fri 28 Jul 2023 at 16:04:10 -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > > I have an AppImage from Creality which segfaults with a QT ssl error. > > Googling tells me that the latest version of OpenSSL (3.x) omits some > X509 > > functionality, which can be fo

Re: Is it possible to downgrade openssl?

2023-07-28 Thread Brian
On Fri 28 Jul 2023 at 16:04:10 -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > I have an AppImage from Creality which segfaults with a QT ssl error. > Googling tells me that the latest version of OpenSSL (3.x) omits some X509 > functionality, which can be found in OpenSSL-1.1. (And someone reports that > installi

Is it possible to downgrade openssl?

2023-07-28 Thread Patrick Wiseman
I have an AppImage from Creality which segfaults with a QT ssl error. Googling tells me that the latest version of OpenSSL (3.x) omits some X509 functionality, which can be found in OpenSSL-1.1. (And someone reports that installing it solves the problem.) But I can't find that package. Is there any

is it possible to mount .gho file

2023-04-15 Thread hl
ghost is used to clone disk partition it create .gho file, is it possible to mount it in linux?

Re: is it possible to attach files on reportbug?

2022-09-02 Thread Brian
On Fri 02 Sep 2022 at 01:03:21 +, jindam, vani wrote: > hello debian users, > > i want to attach files when creating a new issue > using reportbug. i could not find an option > to use it. I rather think adding an attachment is a function of your mail client. I do it in mutt just before sen

Re: is it possible to attach files on reportbug?

2022-09-01 Thread Ash Joubert
On 02/09/2022 13:03, jindam, vani wrote: i want to attach files when creating a new issue using reportbug. i could not find an option to use it. If I recall correctly, there is an option to attach files on the very last screen before submission. You can also reply to the submission confirmati

is it possible to attach files on reportbug?

2022-09-01 Thread jindam, vani
hello debian users, i want to attach files when creating a new issue using reportbug. i could not find an option to use it. regards, jindam, vani

Re: is it possible to install bullseye by copy whole disk?

2022-01-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 22 ian 22, 09:40:39, David Christensen wrote: > > A simple case is to image the entire device. Boot the Debian Installer > (d-i) (or a live Linux distribution) and use dd(1) to copy the entire USB > drive to the entire HDD: > > # dd bs=1M if=/dev/disk/by-id/usb-... of=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-

Re: is it possible to install bullseye by copy whole disk?

2022-01-22 Thread David Christensen
On 1/21/22 11:36 PM, lou wrote: i've installed bullseye on usb disk can i copy it to hard disk (sda2) and make necessary change in /etc/fstab and then update grub of usb disk to boot sda2? Thanks! I have a SOHO network with about a dozen IoT, iOS, Android, Windows, macOS, Debian GNU/ Lin

Re: is it possible to install bullseye by copy whole disk?

2022-01-22 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 1/22/22, lou wrote: > i've installed bullseye on usb disk > > can i copy it to hard disk (sda2) and make necessary change in > /etc/fstab and > > then update grub of usb disk to boot sda2? There's also "update-initramfs -u" that can be run in between /etc/fstab and one's boot manager (LILO, G

Re: is it possible to install bullseye by copy whole disk?

2022-01-22 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
2022-01-22 12:36 GMT+05:00, lou : > i've installed bullseye on usb disk > > can i copy it to hard disk (sda2) and make necessary change in > /etc/fstab and > > then update grub of usb disk to boot sda2? yes, i do this: 1) make neccessary partitions and fs and mount them -- man parted, man mkfs, m

Re: is it possible to install bullseye by copy whole disk?

2022-01-22 Thread lou
Thank Andrei and David! i've tried, it doesn't work, i give up if install by copy is complicated, i won't do it that way instead, i just install as usual

Re: is it possible to install bullseye by copy whole disk?

2022-01-22 Thread David
On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 at 18:42, lou wrote: > i've installed bullseye on usb disk > > can i copy it to hard disk (sda2) and make necessary change in > /etc/fstab and > > then update grub of usb disk to boot sda2? Hi, in general this kind of thing is quite possible, and I would encourage you to try,

Re: is it possible to install bullseye by copy whole disk?

2022-01-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 22 ian 22, 02:36:27, lou wrote: > i've installed bullseye on usb disk > > can i copy it to hard disk (sda2) and make necessary change in /etc/fstab > and > > then update grub of usb disk to boot sda2? Something like that should be possible, yes. For more visibility you might want to re-s

is it possible to install bullseye by copy whole disk?

2022-01-21 Thread lou
i've installed bullseye on usb disk can i copy it to hard disk (sda2) and make necessary change in /etc/fstab and then update grub of usb disk to boot sda2? Thanks!

Re: is it possible to send e-mail via Yahoo's smtp servers using Thunderbird (78.13.0)?

2021-09-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 10 sep 21, 20:55:43, Gary Dale wrote: > On 2021-09-10 18:11, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > > > Pretty sure, it's the issue with Yahoo¹ ², nothing to do with Thunderbird. > > Yahoo is following the same path as GMail, forcing their users to use > > web browsers as mail clients. > > In ca

Re: is it possible to send e-mail via Yahoo's smtp servers using Thunderbird (78.13.0)?

2021-09-11 Thread Ralph Katz
On 9/10/21 3:39 PM, Gary Dale wrote: [snip] Does anyone have Thunderbird and Yahoo working together? Yes, works fine with Thunderbird windows and thunderbird 78.14.0 on debian linux stable. Settings: Account name: y...@yahoo.com email address: y...@yahoo.com IMAP server imap.mail.yahoo.

Re: is it possible to send e-mail via Yahoo's smtp servers using Thunderbird (78.13.0)?

2021-09-10 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-09-10 20:51, Gary Dale wrote: On 2021-09-10 18:32, jeremy ardley wrote: On 11/09/2021 6:26 am, Jeremy Ardley wrote: On 11/9/21 5:39 am, Gary Dale wrote: Does anyone have Thunderbird and Yahoo working together? I have it running on thunderbird. Both imap and smtp use ssl/tls and

Re: is it possible to send e-mail via Yahoo's smtp servers using Thunderbird (78.13.0)?

2021-09-10 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-09-10 20:51, Gary Dale wrote: On 2021-09-10 18:32, jeremy ardley wrote: On 11/09/2021 6:26 am, Jeremy Ardley wrote: On 11/9/21 5:39 am, Gary Dale wrote: Does anyone have Thunderbird and Yahoo working together? I have it running on thunderbird. Both imap and smtp use ssl/tls and

Re: is it possible to send e-mail via Yahoo's smtp servers using Thunderbird (78.13.0)?

2021-09-10 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-09-10 18:11, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 11.09.2021 02:39, Gary Dale wrote: I've got a Yahoo mail account (among others) that I use for a particular purpose. However it's been a while since I've been able to send e-mail from it using Yahoo's smtp servers. Instead I've been sending

Re: is it possible to send e-mail via Yahoo's smtp servers using Thunderbird (78.13.0)?

2021-09-10 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-09-10 18:26, Jeremy Ardley wrote: On 11/9/21 5:39 am, Gary Dale wrote: I've got a Yahoo mail account (among others) that I use for a particular purpose. However it's been a while since I've been able to send e-mail from it using Yahoo's smtp servers. Instead I've been sending e-mail v

Re: is it possible to send e-mail via Yahoo's smtp servers using Thunderbird (78.13.0)?

2021-09-10 Thread Gary Dale
On 2021-09-10 18:32, jeremy ardley wrote: On 11/09/2021 6:26 am, Jeremy Ardley wrote: On 11/9/21 5:39 am, Gary Dale wrote: Does anyone have Thunderbird and Yahoo working together? I have it running on thunderbird. Both imap and smtp use ssl/tls and oauth2 smtp uses port 465 while ima

Re: OT: Re: is it possible to send e-mail via Yahoo's smtp servers using Thunderbird (78.13.0)?

2021-09-10 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 11/9/21 9:48 am, piorunz wrote: Offtopic: You sure you want to use Yahoo knowing what are they capable of, or, what they are not capable of doing, where they should? https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/yahoo-admits-staff-knew-state-sponsored-hack-2014-1590924 https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/yahoo

OT: Re: is it possible to send e-mail via Yahoo's smtp servers using Thunderbird (78.13.0)?

2021-09-10 Thread piorunz
Offtopic: You sure you want to use Yahoo knowing what are they capable of, or, what they are not capable of doing, where they should? https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/yahoo-admits-staff-knew-state-sponsored-hack-2014-1590924 https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/yahoo-breach-one-billion-state-government-act

is it possible to send e-mail via Yahoo's smtp servers using Thunderbird (78.13.0)?

2021-09-10 Thread Gary Dale
I've got a Yahoo mail account (among others) that I use for a particular purpose. However it's been a while since I've been able to send e-mail from it using Yahoo's smtp servers. Instead I've been sending e-mail via another smtp server so the "From" address doesn't match the login domain. Gmai

Re: is it possible to send e-mail via Yahoo's smtp servers using Thunderbird (78.13.0)?

2021-09-10 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 11/9/21 8:51 am, Gary Dale wrote: On 2021-09-10 18:32, jeremy ardley wrote: On 11/09/2021 6:26 am, Jeremy Ardley wrote: On 11/9/21 5:39 am, Gary Dale wrote: Does anyone have Thunderbird and Yahoo working together? I have it running on thunderbird. Both imap and smtp use ssl/tls and

Re: is it possible to send e-mail via Yahoo's smtp servers using Thunderbird (78.13.0)?

2021-09-10 Thread jeremy ardley
On 11/09/2021 6:26 am, Jeremy Ardley wrote: On 11/9/21 5:39 am, Gary Dale wrote: Does anyone have Thunderbird and Yahoo working together? I have it running on thunderbird. Both imap and smtp use ssl/tls and oauth2 smtp uses port 465 while imap uses port 993 I have some memory gettin

Re: is it possible to send e-mail via Yahoo's smtp servers using Thunderbird (78.13.0)?

2021-09-10 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 11/9/21 5:39 am, Gary Dale wrote: I've got a Yahoo mail account (among others) that I use for a particular purpose. However it's been a while since I've been able to send e-mail from it using Yahoo's smtp servers. Instead I've been sending e-mail via another smtp server so the "From" addres

Re: is it possible to send e-mail via Yahoo's smtp servers using Thunderbird (78.13.0)?

2021-09-10 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 11.09.2021 02:39, Gary Dale wrote: I've got a Yahoo mail account (among others) that I use for a particular purpose. However it's been a while since I've been able to send e-mail from it using Yahoo's smtp servers. Instead I've been sending e-mail via another smtp server so the "From" addres

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-28 Thread David Wright
On Sat 27 Feb 2021 at 15:19:39 (+0300), Semih Ozlem wrote: > Joe, 27 Şub 2021 Cmt, 12:02 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > > On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 11:30:08 +0300 Semih Ozlem wrote: > > > > > Sorry I can not read emails very often. No I am not new to linux I > > > have been using it for the past 6 or 7 years st

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread Joe
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 15:19:39 +0300 Semih Ozlem wrote: > Should I then be suspicious of a possible attack on the system in > case the system fails, if both debian and ubuntu are fairly stable? > The usb flash drives themselves are still functional in the sense > that I can view the files in them a

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 03:22:08PM +0300, Semih Ozlem wrote: > One potential extra information that could be relevant is that I did use > the flash drives in a university network, and using shared wifi in a hostel > and before in a public library. > That's probably irrelevant: flash drives can an

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread Semih Ozlem
One potential extra information that could be relevant is that I did use the flash drives in a university network, and using shared wifi in a hostel and before in a public library. Semih Ozlem , 27 Şub 2021 Cmt, 15:19 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > Should I then be suspicious of a possible attack on the

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread Semih Ozlem
Should I then be suspicious of a possible attack on the system in case the system fails, if both debian and ubuntu are fairly stable? The usb flash drives themselves are still functional in the sense that I can view the files in them after plugging them in. I backed up the data on them. But when I

About keeping a Debian installation happy [was: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian] systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 11:34:10AM +0300, Semih Ozlem wrote: > Also even though I have been using linux for a while, that still does not > mean that I would know everything about linux or that there would be no > details that I miss... Nobody does. The Linux kernel alone receives roughly 6000-8000

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread Joe
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 11:30:08 +0300 Semih Ozlem wrote: > Sorry I can not read emails very often. No I am not new to linux I > have been using it for the past 6 or 7 years starting mostly with > ubuntu. I had CENTOS and Ubuntu and debian installed on some machines > before. Most of them stopped fu

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread Semih Ozlem
Also even though I have been using linux for a while, that still does not mean that I would know everything about linux or that there would be no details that I miss... Semih Ozlem , 27 Şub 2021 Cmt, 11:30 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > Sorry I can not read emails very often. No I am not new to linux I

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread Semih Ozlem
Sorry I can not read emails very often. No I am not new to linux I have been using it for the past 6 or 7 years starting mostly with ubuntu. I had CENTOS and Ubuntu and debian installed on some machines before. Most of them stopped functioning. Some of them in less than six months. I am new to th

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-27 Thread martin f krafft
Regarding the following, written by "Semih Ozlem" on 2021-02-26 at 08:54 Uhr +0300: lvs is in which package? If it's not installed on your system (the package being `lvm2`), then my suggested fix won't work for you anyway, since your system isn't set up to use Logical Volume Management. --

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
Charles Curley (charlescur...@charlescurley.com) wrote: > I also made the mistake of figuring that getting lvs installed would > help solve the problem. I later realized that getting lvs installed > would be irrelevant: the fact that it is not installed tells us what > we needed to know: M. Ozlem i

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-26 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 20:56:34 +1100 David wrote: > However I am unsure why this was asked for. > If you are not already using LVM [1] on your system > then I would expect the 'lvs' command output to be blank. M. Ozlem's original questions was, could one add another disk to a debian system. Someon

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
Semih Ozlem (semihozlemlinuxu...@gmail.com) wrote: > Is lvs linux virtual server? > > I am not able to find a command or a file with the name lvs... Here, I found it for you: > Charles Curley , 26 Şub 2021 Cum, 09:53 > tarihinde şunu yazdı: > > charles@hawk:~$ apt-file search /lvs | grep lvs$ >

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-26 Thread David
[I re-arranged this to correct the top-posting] On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 16:54, Semih Ozlem wrote: > martin f krafft , 23 Şub 2021 Sal, 13:30 tarihinde şunu > yazdı: >> Maybe I can provide a quick and easy solution, depending on what happens >> when you type >> $ sudo lvs >> into a terminal. Cou

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread Semih Ozlem
Is lvs linux virtual server? I am not able to find a command or a file with the name lvs... Charles Curley , 26 Şub 2021 Cum, 09:53 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 08:54:16 +0300 > Semih Ozlem wrote: > > > lvs is in which package? > > closest I can find are: > > from apt search > >

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 08:54:16 +0300 Semih Ozlem wrote: > lvs is in which package? > closest I can find are: > from apt search > (i) netgen-lvs/stable 1.5.118-1 amd64 > Netlist comparison - Layout vs Schematic (LVS) > from google or yandex search > (ii) https://github.com/alibaba/LVS charles@ha

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread Semih Ozlem
lvs is in which package? closest I can find are: from apt search (i) netgen-lvs/stable 1.5.118-1 amd64 Netlist comparison - Layout vs Schematic (LVS) from google or yandex search (ii) https://github.com/alibaba/LVS martin f krafft , 23 Şub 2021 Sal, 13:30 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > Semih, > > May

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-02-25 at 10:58, Greg Wooledge wrote: > (/me looks at the Subject: header ... how on earth did we get from there > to here?) Topic drift is inexplicable and inexorable. Just be glad this hasn't developed into a vs. thread yet. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
IL Ka (kazakevichi...@gmail.com) wrote: > testing has [python] 3.9 and stable has 3.7. > What if I need 3.9 but do not want to touch testing on my production server? > Or how can I migrate to 3.10 (which will be released soon) if even bullseye > will have only 3.9? If your production software is i

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread IL Ka
> > > Eh? > > $ apt-cache policy python3 > > python3: > Installed: 3.9.1-1 > Candidate: 3.9.1-1 > Version table: > *** 3.9.1-1 900 > 900 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > 3.7.3-1 800 > 800 http://ftp.us.debia

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-02-25 at 10:26, IL Ka wrote: >> Thanks for the explanation. But I guess that the Windows style is >> becoming increasingly common in the Linux world as well, >> with the rise >> of Docker, Flatpak, Snap, etc. (as another poster in this thread >> mentioned). And these are not just for thos

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 18:26:04 +0300 IL Ka wrote: > > Thanks for the explanation. But I guess that the Windows style is > > becoming increasingly common in the Linux world as well, > > You mean "side by side", right? I meant the habit of including all an application's dependencies in its install

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread IL Ka
> > Thanks for the explanation. But I guess that the Windows style is > becoming increasingly common in the Linux world as well, You mean "side by side", right? I agree. Some developers took another approach and compiled all their code statically. AFAIK "Go" language does it by default, so all l

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 17:56:20 +0300 IL Ka wrote: > > > > Aren't Windows DLLs roughly analogous to Linux library packages? > > > > In most cases yes. On Windows you can install the library to the "System32" > and access it from anywhere. > But since most software in Windows is installed not from "

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread IL Ka
> > Aren't Windows DLLs roughly analogous to Linux library packages? > In most cases yes. On Windows you can install the library to the "System32" and access it from anywhere. But since most software in Windows is installed not from "repository" but from some random places instead, "DLL hell" may

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 08:58:42AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 10:21:49 +0200 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > ... > > > Additionally, a major difference between Debian (as well as most other > > Linux systems) and Windows is that library packages are installed to be > > available f

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-25 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 10:21:49 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: ... > Additionally, a major difference between Debian (as well as most other > Linux systems) and Windows is that library packages are installed to be > available for all other packages on the system. This means that a > library package

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-23 Thread Joe
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 11:37:12 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 11:13:12 AM Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > You can always add more filesystem space later. It's easier if > > you're using LVM but that isn't required. You just build another > > filesystem on the new drive

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-23 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 10:37 AM wrote: > On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 11:13:12 AM Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > You can always add more filesystem space later. It's easier if you're > using > > LVM but that isn't required. You just build another filesystem on the new > > drive after it's installed

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-23 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 11:13:12 AM Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > You can always add more filesystem space later. It's easier if you're using > LVM but that isn't required. You just build another filesystem on the new > drive after it's installed and mount it into your filesystems, at the > appr

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-23 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 2/23/21 8:13 AM, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: You can always add more filesystem space later. It's easier if you're using LVM but that isn't required. You just build another filesystem on the new drive after it's installed and mount it into your filesystems, at the appropriate mount point. Indee

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-23 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
You can always add more filesystem space later. It's easier if you're using LVM but that isn't required. You just build another filesystem on the new drive after it's installed and mount it into your filesystems, at the appropriate mount point. Where is that? Depends on your needs. What if it's a

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-23 Thread martin f krafft
Semih, Maybe I can provide a quick and easy solution, depending on what happens when you type ``` $ sudo lvs ``` into a terminal. Could you let us know what that spits out? Thanks, -- .''`. martin f. krafft @martinkrafft : :' : proud Debian developer `. `'` http://people.debian.org/

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 23 feb 21, 00:37:52, Semih Ozlem wrote: > I am currently pre-planning. If it could be done, then I am going to go > about searching and purchasing necessary devices in order to do the task. > That's why I am asking in the first place. I have a usb device that I can > attach for testing now.

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread David Christensen
On 2021-02-22 12:04, Semih Ozlem wrote: Hi everyone, First of all thanks to everyone who responded in detail to my previous questions in email. Thanks for taking the time to read and reply to my questions. YW. :-) I would like to ask a different question. Suppose that I install debian on

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread David
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 at 10:02, Semih Ozlem wrote: Thanks for the info. What is the make/model of the external USB disk? Which version of USB port is it connected to? > storage device there is an internal hard disk (500gb) that has windows > installed on it, which I can not install another opera

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread Semih Ozlem
processor i3-7100 ram 4 gb other details will have to restart the machine to tell. storage device there is an internal hard disk (500gb) that has windows installed on it, which I can not install another operating system to for now for reasons that I would have to back up files before and I don't ha

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
gt; > that the installed programs become usable. When an external disk is > > added, > > > it is writable and readable but its space does not become incorporated or > > > available to /bin /sbin or whatever directories in linux filesystem get > > > used... Is it

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread David
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 at 08:38, Semih Ozlem wrote: > I have a usb device that I can attach for testing now. Sorry if I overlooked that you provided this information already elsewhere, but I think it would help us to help you if you would properly describe for us the hardware that you are currently

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread Semih Ozlem
x directory usually I presume or guess in /bin/ or /sbin > so > > that the installed programs become usable. When an external disk is > added, > > it is writable and readable but its space does not become incorporated or > > available to /bin /sbin or whatever directories

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
> it is writable and readable but its space does not become incorporated or > available to /bin /sbin or whatever directories in linux filesystem get > used... Is it possible to make some changes to filesystem hierarchy so that > the additional disk becomes available to the system?

Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk

2021-02-22 Thread Semih Ozlem
/bin /sbin or whatever directories in linux filesystem get used... Is it possible to make some changes to filesystem hierarchy so that the additional disk becomes available to the system? It is possible with some programs... One could extract files to any directory one wishes, and run the program

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