Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-23 Thread Andrew Wood
Yes, I actually think Gnome Shell is more intuitive & pretty than both Mac OS X & Windows 7. In fact after years of my main machine being a Mac Im now using Debian with Gnome 3 as my main machine and its a dream, (and no not a nightmare before anyone makes a sarcastic comment;) On 23/11/11 23

Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-23 Thread Steven Rosenberg
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:33 -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: > *Meanwhile* iOS is *so* polished, so easy, so intuitive & yes*very* > pretty. It's not all that. Ubuntu 11.10 and even GNOME 3 in Fedora look just as good (haven't seen GNOME 3 in Debian since I run Stable). Whether you like how Unity a

Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread Weaver
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:11:21 -0500 doug wrote: > On 11/14/2011 09:10 AM, Camaleón wrote: > > /snip/ > > I've also read bad reviewes for the new MacOS Lion system. My > > feeling is that Apple will discontinue sooner or later its server > > business (and possibly the desktop...) and will concentr

Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread Weaver
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:11:21 -0500 doug wrote: > On 11/14/2011 09:10 AM, Camaleón wrote: > > /snip/ > > I've also read bad reviewes for the new MacOS Lion system. My > > feeling is that Apple will discontinue sooner or later its server > > business (and possibly the desktop...) and will concentr

Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread doug
On 11/14/2011 09:10 AM, Camaleón wrote: /snip/ I've also read bad reviewes for the new MacOS Lion system. My feeling is that Apple will discontinue sooner or later its server business (and possibly the desktop...) and will concentrate the forces into the mobile market (iPhone/Pad/Pod and noteboo

Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 14 nov 11, 14:10:57, Camaleón wrote: > > That's the tramp. You don't own your computer but Apple. I'm stumped to > see people with a Mac going to the Apple store every time a small problem > arise instead of solving the issue by themselves. Wow, so you get a > "oops, something went worng

Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:39:07 -0500, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:22:17 -0500, Tom H wrote: >>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:33 -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: (...) > *

Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:22:17 -0500, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:33 -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: >>> >>> (...) >>> *Meanwhile* iOS is *so* polished, so easy, so intuitive & ye

Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:37:11 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:33 -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: >>> >>> (...) >>> *Meanwhile* iOS is *so* polished, so easy, so intuitive& yes*very* pretty. >>> Ap

OT: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 18:17 +, Camaleón wrote: > It's all relative... But to my eyes, Apple devices are just beautiful > bricks, plenty of traps with an invisible and "costly" price (and I'm not > speaking about $). I cannot feel confortable with a company policy that > prevents the movement

Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-13 Thread Miles Fidelman
Tom H wrote: On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:33 -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: (...) *Meanwhile* iOS is *so* polished, so easy, so intuitive& yes*very* pretty. Apple products are so closed, so limited and so restricted that renders you hardware into

Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-13 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:22:17 -0500, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:33 -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: >> >> (...) >> >>> *Meanwhile* iOS is *so* polished, so easy, so intuitive & yes*very* >>> pretty. >> >> Apple products are so closed, s

Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-13 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:33 -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: > > (...) > >> *Meanwhile* iOS is *so* polished, so easy, so intuitive & yes*very* >> pretty. > > Apple products are so closed, so limited and so restricted that renders > you hardware into

Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 17:30 +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:16:03 -0500, Rob wrote in message > <2012141603.gb18...@aurora.owens.net>: > > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 02:47:33PM -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: > > > I used Debian once before, years ago & at the time Debian seem

Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:16:03 -0500, Rob wrote in message <2012141603.gb18...@aurora.owens.net>: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 02:47:33PM -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: > > I used Debian once before, years ago & at the time Debian seemed > > difficult to configure & software was way behind the times

Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-12 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 02:47:33PM -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: > I used Debian once before, years ago & at the time Debian seemed difficult > to configure & software was way behind the times. I don't know if I'm just > getting older & more cranky, but I *think* I'd rather have older but stable > &

Re: Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-12 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:33 -0500, Douglas Saylor wrote: (...) > *Meanwhile* iOS is *so* polished, so easy, so intuitive & yes*very* > pretty. Apple products are so closed, so limited and so restricted that renders you hardware into a beatiful brick. > *If* Unity ever makes it to phones/tabl

Into: Coming over to Debian from Ubuntu

2011-11-11 Thread Douglas Saylor
I used Debian once before, years ago & at the time Debian seemed difficult to configure & software was way behind the times. I don't know if I'm just getting older & more cranky, but I *think* I'd rather have older but stable & "just works". For now, I'll have the option to boot into either Debian