>>I recently engaged with "exim", and if it weren't for the fact that
>>I found an obscure reference buried in the back yard in the dead of
>>night, to the fact that there is an "exim-docs" package which needed
>>to be loaded *in addition* to the exim docs which turn up in the
>>"/usr/share/docs" d
On Sun, Aug 08 at 09:23AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Unless you have something like "snapshot" running, you
> > > will invariably lose whatever it is that you've just been
> > > working on, backups or not.
> >
> > So go use Solaris.
>
> Solaris is not optimized for the X86 architecture
On Fri, Aug 13 at 05:05AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> Documentation is a much-ignored standard.
>
> Some is in man format:
> man man
> THe GNU project likes info
> info info
> Some projects prefer HTML:
> links /usr/share/doc/postgresql-doc/html/index.html
> Others think postscript is cool
On Sat, Aug 07 at 12:07PM +0200, John L Fjellstad wrote:
> Paul Gear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > And *always* use 'set -u' in shell scripts. :-)
>
> What does that do? I looked in bash manual, and couldn't find
> anything... (always ready to learn something new:-) )
man bash
it's in "sh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's built in in - at least in bash ;)
Not only that, but (correct me if I'm wrong - that's why I'm
posting this) it appears that the docs for some things are
split into docs that appear in HTML in /usr/share/docs, and
docs that appear via the "help" command (the data
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> If the "help" command is only available in "bash", I'll have to
> do some negotiating... I'm a csh/tcsh nazi and hate anything that
> looks like the original Bourne shell on general principles (or no
> principles at all, FTM)
>
> Please correct me if I'm wrong about an
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 11:04:07AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > It's built in in - at least in bash ;)
>
> Not only that, but (correct me if I'm wrong - that's why I'm
> posting this) it appears that the docs for some things are
> split into docs that appear in HTML in /usr/share/docs, a
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 11:04:07AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > It's built in in - at least in bash ;)
>
> Not only that, but (correct me if I'm wrong - that's why I'm
> posting this) it appears that the docs for some things are
> split into docs that appear in HTML in /usr/share/docs, a
> It's built in in - at least in bash ;)
Not only that, but (correct me if I'm wrong - that's why I'm
posting this) it appears that the docs for some things are
split into docs that appear in HTML in /usr/share/docs, and
docs that appear via the "help" command (the data for which
is stored somewh
John L Fjellstad wrote:
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
help set
Interesting. I've used linux for almost ten years now, and never
actually realized that there is a help command... Actually tried man
set earlier (before man bash)...
Always learning something new...
It's built in in
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> help set
Interesting. I've used linux for almost ten years now, and never
actually realized that there is a help command... Actually tried man
set earlier (before man bash)...
Always learning something new...
--
John L. Fjellstad
web: http://www
John L Fjellstad wrote:
> Paul Gear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>>And *always* use 'set -u' in shell scripts. :-)
>
>
> What does that do? I looked in bash manual, and couldn't find
> anything... (always ready to learn something new:-) )
It treats an unset variable as an error. Very han
> > Unless you have something like "snapshot" running, you will invariably
> > lose whatever it is that you've just been working on, backups or not.
>
> So go use Solaris.
Solaris is not optimized for the X86 architecture; also, it is a
disk hog.
Additionally, as I mentioned, the "snapshot" feat
John L Fjellstad wrote:
Paul Gear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
And *always* use 'set -u' in shell scripts. :-)
What does that do? I looked in bash manual, and couldn't find
anything... (always ready to learn something new:-) )
help set
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John
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Paul Gear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And *always* use 'set -u' in shell scripts. :-)
What does that do? I looked in bash manual, and couldn't find
anything... (always ready to learn something new:-) )
--
John L. Fjellstad
web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custode
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 11:33:21PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Unless you have something like "snapshot" running, you will invariably
> lose whatever it is that you've just been working on, backups or not.
So go use Solaris.
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> Well, I don't want to trade manly quips with you all night, but my point
> was something like "don't mess up, and have backups."
Unless you have something like "snapshot" running, you will invariably
lose whatever it is that you've just been working on, backups or not.
Additionally, it doesn't
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 11:03:45PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Nah, screw all that noise. Half the fun of executing 'rm' is the fact
> > that you know you have a loaded revolver on your temple. Keeps you on
> > your toes, which I think makes me a smarter user. Do I have backups?
> >
> And then you sit down at another machine, blindly type in rm thinking
> it will babysit your stuff into the trashcan, and it doesn't. Oops.
>
> Bandaids are temporary, substandard replacements for real skin.
No way. I have NEVER done that. I live in terror of the "rm" command
and am merely
Incoming from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> You should have a "soft remove"... "rm -rf *" is a joke so old
> I can't believe anyone still gets bitten by it.
>
> the "rm" command should be aliased to a script which moves the
> target file to a "trashcan" directory somewhere which then gets
And then you si
> Nah, screw all that noise. Half the fun of executing 'rm' is the fact
> that you know you have a loaded revolver on your temple. Keeps you on
> your toes, which I think makes me a smarter user. Do I have backups?
> Is this crisp? Am I thinking clearly?
But, half the fun of committing sui
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 10:48:20PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You should have a "soft remove"... "rm -rf *" is a joke so old
> I can't believe anyone still gets bitten by it.
>
> the "rm" command should be aliased to a script which moves the
> target file to a "trashcan" directory somewher
You should have a "soft remove"... "rm -rf *" is a joke so old
I can't believe anyone still gets bitten by it.
the "rm" command should be aliased to a script which moves the
target file to a "trashcan" directory somewhere which then gets
checked by a "cron" job which does a permanent remove of an
John L Fjellstad wrote:
> ...
> I wrote a script to delete my old email from ~/Mail directory, basically
> this: find $FOLDERS -type f -mtime $AGE -print0 | xargs -0r rm
>
> Unfortunately, I forgot to add $FOLDERS variable, so it picked ~/, and
> deleted a bunch of old scripts and documents I hadn
Juha Siltala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> One day, a couple of years ago, I had a couple of harmless xterms open on
> my pretty desktop. I was about to clean up my ~/shit (or something, just a
> temporary directory), but issued 'rm -rf *' in the wrong xterm. Hey, the
> contents of my home dire
On Tuesday 03 August 2004 11:31 am, Juha Siltala wrote:
> On 2004-08-03, Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't really care. I'm not getting graded on how good my HTML looks.
>
> That's right! Screw them markup police! :)
Exactly.
> I have rescued some text from an OO.o file, but the docu
On 2004-08-03, Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't really care. I'm not getting graded on how good my HTML looks.
That's right! Screw them markup police! :)
[On OpenOffice.org file format]
> It's a far cry from human-readable though. Ever looked at one?
I have rescued some text from
* Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004 Aug 03 05:59 -0500]:
> On Monday 02 August 2004 10:32 pm, Zaq Rizer wrote:
> > Silvan wrote:
>
> > >Anyone know where I can buy a bigger hard disk for my brain? This one is
> > >getting bad sectors, I think.
> >
> > I got one:
> > How about running Debian for TW
> > I wasted an entire tree today I think.
>
> It's been my experience that unless the printer can do double-sided
> printing all by itself, fewer trees have to die if I _don't_ try to
> print double-sided.
LOL! You said it! :)
I think my next printer will have one of those paper flipper flumm
On Monday 02 August 2004 01:39 am, Juha Siltala wrote:
> "Crap HTML" you say -- is the HTML OO.o produces as bad as the Word
> generated code? I guess you can tidy it afterwards anyway if need be.
It has a lot of superfluous crap. Hand-written code is much cleaner, and does
the same job. Howev
On Sunday 01 August 2004 09:44 pm, William Ballard wrote:
> I found a whole new way to screw up today, but I bet it's in some list
> somewhere:
>
> Instead of:
>
> pipe-command args | /pipe/to/command
> pipe-command args > /pipe/to/command
>
> I did it on Win32, so the dir was writable. Boom. In
On Monday 02 August 2004 10:32 pm, Zaq Rizer wrote:
> Silvan wrote:
> >Anyone know where I can buy a bigger hard disk for my brain? This one is
> >getting bad sectors, I think.
>
> I got one:
> How about running Debian for TWO YEARS without knowing about apt-get clean?
> Yep...that's me. :(
> I f
Silvan wrote:
I've been trying to figure out why, why, why my /var partition was filling up.
Not logs, not the package cache, not this, not that, not the other.
Then it hit me. I've been downloading random things to look at to /tmp for
months since the last reboot. Source for Open Office, kde
On 2004-08-01 20:17:11 -0400, Silvan wrote:
> I had had my caffeine too. No excuses. It got better. I printed the
> document a second time, then I punched holes in all 50 sheets (OK,
> it was only a 100-page document...) and bound it (I own a comb
> binder for this very reason) and then I started
On 2004-08-02, Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BTW, I'm not doing LyX, but I've taken the point you used to make about how
> much you hate word processors. I'm using OO, and writing HTML (crap HTML,
> but let's just not go there) and letting the styles do their job. I never
"Crap HTML" y
> On Sunday 01 August 2004 05:35 pm, Juha Siltala wrote:
>
> > One day, a couple of years ago, I had a couple of harmless xterms open on
> > my pretty desktop. I was about to clean up my ~/shit (or something, just a
> > temporary directory), but issued 'rm -rf *' in the wrong xterm. Hey, the
> > c
Silvan wrote:
On Sunday 01 August 2004 12:56 pm, Silvan wrote:
Another stupid luser trick. Don't do a package install that restarts CUPS
while you're in the middle of printing a 200-page double-sided document, and
you're halfway through the second side.
Yerk. I can't believe I did that.
Act
On Sunday 01 August 2004 05:35 pm, Juha Siltala wrote:
> One day, a couple of years ago, I had a couple of harmless xterms open on
> my pretty desktop. I was about to clean up my ~/shit (or something, just a
> temporary directory), but issued 'rm -rf *' in the wrong xterm. Hey, the
> contents of m
On 2004-08-01, Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 01 August 2004 12:56 pm, Silvan wrote:
>
> Another stupid luser trick. Don't do a package install that restarts CUPS
> while you're in the middle of printing a 200-page double-sided document, and
> you're halfway through the second sid
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 12:56:08 -0400
Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone know where I can buy a bigger hard disk for my brain? This one
> is getting bad sectors, I think.
You /could/ try US Robotics and Mechanical Men, Attn Dr. Susan Calvin
Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds," A.
On Sunday 01 August 2004 12:56 pm, Silvan wrote:
Another stupid luser trick. Don't do a package install that restarts CUPS
while you're in the middle of printing a 200-page double-sided document, and
you're halfway through the second side.
Yerk. I can't believe I did that.
--
Michael McInty
I've been trying to figure out why, why, why my /var partition was filling up.
Not logs, not the package cache, not this, not that, not the other.
Then it hit me. I've been downloading random things to look at to /tmp for
months since the last reboot. Source for Open Office, kdelibs, kdebase,
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