>
Mmmh. www.seul.org comes to mind, but I am not sure if it relates to
Debian
at all. They seem to use RH 5.2 as a base.
The guy doing Geda is running debian
> ps. I wonder about your .sig - is there a meaning to this ?
> >`Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.'
>>
S
On Fri, Mar 19, 1999 at 11:02:19PM +0800, ivan wrote:
>
> >Understandable. We need a good Debian book, luckily, multiple such projectas
> >are under work.
>
> If they are online books perhaps you could point me to the authors - maybe
> some help is needed ? (I'm not keen to work voluntarily for c
>Understandable. We need a good Debian book, luckily, multiple such projectas
>are under work.
If they are online books perhaps you could point me to the authors - maybe
some help is needed ? (I'm not keen to work voluntarily for commercial
productions)
>
>> Coming from the Windows world - when
On Fri, Mar 19, 1999 at 09:41:44AM +0800, ivan wrote:
> At 10:38 PM 3/18/99 +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> >You don't need to reinstall to reconfigure parts of your system or single
> >packages. I can hardly understand what options would require a reinstall if
> >given the wrong answer (beside pa
At 10:38 PM 3/18/99 +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>On Mon, Mar 15, 1999 at 08:05:01AM +0800, ivan wrote:
>> Having overcome the partitioning issues, the installation is still a pain.
>> My experience with Linux is limited to Debian having started with the
>> frozen Bo. Since then I have had to re
On Mon, Mar 15, 1999 at 08:05:01AM +0800, ivan wrote:
> Having overcome the partitioning issues, the installation is still a pain.
> My experience with Linux is limited to Debian having started with the
> frozen Bo. Since then I have had to reinstall at least 20+ times because I
> simply didn't un
Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>
> On Sun, Mar 14, 1999 at 12:35:44PM -0500, William Schwartz wrote:
> > That is why when you insert the DOS disks (dos 6.22 for example) you dont
> > just let it do what it wants to do... You can still hold the right hand
> > shift key while starting and it will skip the
At 12:43 PM 3/14/99 -0800, George Bonser wrote:
>On Sun, 14 Mar 1999, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>
>> It will insist of *erasing* the complete disk, *repartitioning* it to one
>> big partition, and then install DOS.
>>
>> It will NOT let you do anything else. It checks if there are other
>> partition
On Sun, Mar 14, 1999 at 12:35:44PM -0500, William Schwartz wrote:
> That is why when you insert the DOS disks (dos 6.22 for example) you dont
> just let it do what it wants to do... You can still hold the right hand
> shift key while starting and it will skip the boot files... You can then run
> FD
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From: ivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ivan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Sunday, March 14, 1999 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: I can't beleive this
>At 03:14 PM 3/14/99 +01
At 03:14 PM 3/14/99 +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>On Sun, Mar 14, 1999 at 08:05:11PM +0800, ivan wrote:
>>
>> George, I know you know that Windows _does_not_delete_ the "alien
>> filesystem" :)
>
>Try to install MS DOS 6.0
>
>It will insist of *erasing* the complete disk, *repartitioning* it to
On Sun, Mar 14, 1999 at 08:05:11PM +0800, ivan wrote:
>
> George, I know you know that Windows _does_not_delete_ the "alien
> filesystem" :)
Try to install MS DOS 6.0
It will insist of *erasing* the complete disk, *repartitioning* it to one
big partition, and then install DOS.
It will NOT let y
At 06:27 PM 3/12/99 -0800, George Bonser wrote:
>Look, people, I could make a Linux distribution JUST as easy as Windows to
>install if I build it like the Windows installation ... it goes on the
>first bootable partition, PERIOD, it does not allow multi-boot of other
>operating systems, AT ALL,
On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, William Schwartz wrote:
> >it goes on the first bootable partition, PERIOD,
>
> Well, not true, if you are using NT, you can install it on what ever
> partition you would like. All it needs is the NT loader to exist on the boot
> device. This could be a floppy...
Hmm
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 04:37:06PM -0500, Michael Stenner wrote:
>
> You're complaints hardly apply only to the computer world (I know you
> didn't say they did). People just EXPECT everything in general. That
> bugs me to no end also, but in this case, there's nothing wrong with
> WANTING
I know that everyone loves to hate Microsoft, and its Windows products. I
know they are an easy target becuase they make a very successful product
that has quite a few problems. They are a big corporation that "controls"
the pc industry. and Linux is the "underdog"... All of this makes Windows
VERY
> I have no respect for those people. Yes, a computer is a tool. But
> lets drop in a few other examples.
>
Well linux is a tool for me. I don't care a monkey about the internal workings
of the kernel. Its only important to me that it works. Yes I have had to
compile a kernel image to get
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On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 10:07:08AM -0500, Michael Stenner wrote:
>
> Take the old physicist down the hall... he has this great new thing for
> numerical integration. It makes many things possible that just weren't
> before. Why should he give a *&^% about IRQs, printcaps, I/O addresses,
> kernel
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Steve Lamb wrote:
>On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:07:08 -0500 (EST), Michael Stenner wrote:
>
>>These are safety issues. I am all for users being educated in computer
>>related safety issues, like hmmm... can't think of any.
>
>They drive the point home that any tool you are
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On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:07:08 -0500 (EST), Michael Stenner wrote:
>These are safety issues. I am all for users being educated in computer
>related safety issues, like hmmm... can't think of any.
They drive the point home that any tool you ar
>
> > We all, I feel, need to bear in mind that Joe Average really does want to
> > sit down, turn on and work right from day 1.
> > Windows in every experience I've had from 3.0 or earlier offers this.
>
> Problem is that some of us like our systems to keep working after day 1.
>
I, However
On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Steve Lamb wrote:
>On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:40:35 -0500 (EST), Michael Stenner wrote:
>
>>But it shouldn't be an "exclusive or". As time has passed, I have come
>>to respect the people who view computers as tools. They don't want to
>>have to learn, they don't want to have to c
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On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 01:29:50 -0700, Ray wrote:
>hundreds of other examples from almost every large vendor but what it comes
>down to is that millions of people are throwing away good money on junk
>because they simply don't know any better.
Name
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 02:39:43PM +0800, ivan wrote:
> At 10:32 PM 3/11/99 -0700, Ray wrote:
> >These kinds of people really want the system pre-installed and certainly
> >shouldn't be doing upgrades etc. These folks should probably be leasing
> >their computer (preferably something along the lin
At 10:32 PM 3/11/99 -0700, Ray wrote:
>On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 08:51:05AM +0800, ivan wrote:
>>
>> In a computer context most people want to turn the thing on, plug in a CD
>> and voila - there's an operating system - configured and operating.
>
>These kinds of people really want the system pre-i
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 08:51:05AM +0800, ivan wrote:
>
> In a computer context most people want to turn the thing on, plug in a CD
> and voila - there's an operating system - configured and operating.
These kinds of people really want the system pre-installed and certainly
shouldn't be doing up
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On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:20:00 -0800 (PST), mike shupp wrote:
>> I have no respect for those people. Yes, a computer is a tool. But
>> lets drop in a fe
On Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 02:40:35PM -0500, Michael Stenner wrote:
>
> Re: "They are willing to sacrifice fine-grained control for simplicity"
>
> But it shouldn't be an "exclusive or". As time has passed, I have come
> to respect the people who view computers as tools. They don't want to
> have
On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Steve Lamb wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:40:35 -0500 (EST), Michael Stenner wrote:
>
> >But it shouldn't be an "exclusive or". As time has passed, I have come
> >to respect the people who view computers as tools. They don't want to
> >have to learn, they don't want to hav
I just have to get in on this thread ... :)
>I have no respect for those people. Yes, a computer is a tool. But
>lets drop in a few other examples.
>
>Say... a car. A car is a tool. People don't want to learn, they don't
>want to have to learn how to drive, they certainly don't want
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>On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:40:35 -0500 (EST), Michael Stenner wrote:
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>>But it shouldn't be an "exclusive or". As time has passed, I have come
>>to respect the people who view computers as tools. They d
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On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:40:35 -0500 (EST), Michael Stenner wrote:
>But it shouldn't be an "exclusive or". As time has passed, I have come
>to respect the people who view computers as tools. They don't want to
>have to learn, they don't want to have t
On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, George Bonser wrote:
>On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Richard Lyon wrote:
>
>> Yes I am new to linux and like dselect. Gives one a good grasp on what is
>> going on and makes installing packages a breeze. Maybe we should form the
>> dselect self-help group to try and convince ourselves
On 1999-03-10 14:43, mike shupp wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Allan M. Wind wrote:
>
> > Most UNIX programs don't have interactive or context sensitive help,
> > which IMHO is a good thing - unless it takes 10s to appear. I think
> > it's kinda primitive that one has to have...
>
> >
> > g
On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Allan M. Wind wrote:
> Most UNIX programs don't have interactive or context sensitive help,
> which IMHO is a good thing - unless it takes 10s to appear. I think
> it's kinda primitive that one has to have...
>
> grep -i sb /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/|xargs le
On 1999-03-10 09:28, George Bonser wrote:
> Good idea. I think people have gotten lazy when it comes to computers. If
> what they are doing is not immediately obvious then somehow they think the
> program is broken.
An obvious user interface is often said to be "user friendly".
Personally, I don
> P.S. I'm a fairly new linux user and I actually like dselect. Should I
> seek counseling? :)
>
Yes I am new to linux and like dselect. Gives one a good grasp on what is
going on and makes installing packages a breeze. Maybe we should form the
dselect self-help group to try and convince ourse
Hi All,
Much as I hated to, I had to crank up my win95 drive (the list won't
accept my linux "root" email. I know! I know!) and forward the following
email to the list. I sent this last night to the PC Magazine Editor. I
hope others with more experience than I with Debian also write. I think
what
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