Re: Calendaring [was: Holy Shee-it]

2004-02-17 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 02:05:57PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > I just did an "apt-get install koffice", and although there is a package > named that, there appears to be no such app as "koffice". So just > guessing, I ran "korganizer", which brought up

Re: Calendaring [was: Holy Shee-it]

2004-02-17 Thread Kent West
Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 01:20:53PM -0600, Kent West wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Because I've been looking for a calendaring solution for 4 or 5 years, and have never found anything like the way we do things on campus. We used Sc

Re: Calendaring [was: Holy Shee-it]

2004-02-17 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 01:20:53PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > Because I've been looking for a calendaring solution for 4 or 5 years, > and have never found anything like the way we do things on campus. We > used Schedule+ on Wind

Calendaring [was: Holy Shee-it]

2004-02-17 Thread Kent West
Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 10:16:10AM -0600, Kent West wrote: But does this allow you to share calendars with the secretary, and with Joe Bob across the hall, without importing/exporting everytime you want to share? Again, it

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-17 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 10:16:10AM -0600, Kent West wrote: > But does this allow you to share calendars with the secretary, and with > Joe Bob across the hall, without importing/exporting everytime you want > to share? Again, it uses the same format

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-17 Thread David Clymer
On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 11:16, Kent West wrote: > BruceG wrote: > > >For someone that uses a calendar and > >contact list with their e-mail, Ximian Evolution is good (I like that one a > >lot). I don't have direct experience with MS Echange, so wouldn't be able to > >make a fair comparison. > > >

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-17 Thread Kent West
BruceG wrote: For someone that uses a calendar and contact list with their e-mail, Ximian Evolution is good (I like that one a lot). I don't have direct experience with MS Echange, so wouldn't be able to make a fair comparison. But does this allow you to share calendars with the secretary, and

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-17 Thread BruceG
> Last I used Evolution, it had the "slow-as-molasses" loading feature > that Outlook has, but it lacked the "hang at least once a day" feature > of which I'm so fond in Outlook, so it still has a way to go. > > -- > monique I LOVE that slow as molasses feature! I'm a S-L-O-W reader. Anyway, I us

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-17 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-02-16, John L. Fjellstad penned: > Paul Johnson wrote: > >> Isn't koffice/kmail/knode more or less a drop-in replacement for MS >> Office/Outlook at this point? > > I think it's the combination of mail and calendering (basically the > groupware functionality) that makes Outlook so good for

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-16 Thread John L. Fjellstad
Paul Johnson wrote: > Isn't koffice/kmail/knode more or less a drop-in replacement for MS > Office/Outlook at this point? I think it's the combination of mail and calendering (basically the groupware functionality) that makes Outlook so good for business. From what I understand, the upcoming kon

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-16 Thread Dave's List Addy
On 2/16/04 5:45 PM, "Steven Leach" wrote: ;) Good Man!! > Oh, I'm not bashing Apple, Mac, or Mac OS X by any means. You might > want to check out my email address and the web address on my signature > :-) > > I have been interested in the PowerPC processor [32 general purpose > registers!!!] s

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-16 Thread Steven Leach
Oh, I'm not bashing Apple, Mac, or Mac OS X by any means. You might want to check out my email address and the web address on my signature :-) I have been interested in the PowerPC processor [32 general purpose registers!!!] since the first rummers and articles many years ago (what was that

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-16 Thread Dave's List Addy
On 2/16/04 1:07 PM, "s. keeling" wrote: > (or Mac too of course). Watch it now !! :) -- Thanks!! David Thurman List Only at Web Presence Group Net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-16 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 12:02:11PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > Based on past performance, I'm surprised they exist now. I was just > trying to be diplomatic. Even the worst tyrant deserves a last meal > and parting words before he's hung up on a meat

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-16 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 11:20:42AM -0500, Adam Aube wrote: > Out of curiosity, why do you prefer KOffice over OpenOffice.org? It's quite a bit faster than OO.o. I don't currently have KOffice installed, one thing KOffice is lacking is output formats.

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-16 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Steven Leach: > I would have to wonder what possible benefit would be derived from this. > > True, MS Word/Office is one of the biggest things which keeps desktop > users dependent on Windows (or Mac too of course). But running > Office, already a program with less than stellar s

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-16 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Paul Johnson: > On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 10:15:42PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > > That's even weirder. Linux takes corporate computing by storm. How? > > By abandoning the low end server market to Mickeysoft and going for ..^ > > the desktop mar

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-16 Thread Steven Leach
I would have to wonder what possible benefit would be derived from this. True, MS Word/Office is one of the biggest things which keeps desktop users dependent on Windows (or Mac too of course). But running Office, already a program with less than stellar stability in my experience, under some

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-16 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 11:42:57PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 10:31:06PM -0500, Richard Hoskins wrote: > > I think it is probably more than 10% if you include Outlook. Outlook > > is a must-have for organizations that are already heavily invested in > > Exchange servers.

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-16 Thread Adam Aube
On Monday 16 February 2004 02:42 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 10:31:06PM -0500, Richard Hoskins wrote: > > I think it is probably more than 10% if you include Outlook. Outlook > > is a must-have for organizations that are already heavily invested in > > Exchange servers. > > I

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-16 Thread Adam Aube
On Sunday 15 February 2004 10:31 pm, Richard Hoskins wrote: > Adam Aube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Personally, I think the time and money would be better spent > > improving OpenOffice.org so it bridges that last 10% gap between it > > and MS Office. > I think it is probably more than 10% if

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-16 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 11:40:24PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 09:45:56PM -0500, Adam Aube wrote: > > Personally, I think the time and money would be better spent improving > > OpenOffice.org so it bridges that last 10% gap between it and MS Office. > > OpenOffice.org is

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-16 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 11:45:20PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 10:15:42PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > > That's even weirder. Linux takes corporate computing by storm. How? > > By abandoning the low end server market to Mickeysoft and going for > > the desktop market instea

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 23:45:20 -0800, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 10:15:42PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > > > Maybe Microsoft would do well to start porting its software over > > now. > > I'm not sure that beast deserves to conti

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 10:15:42PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > That's even weirder. Linux takes corporate computing by storm. How? > By abandoning the low end server market to Mickeysoft and going for > the desktop market instead. IBM isn't abandonin

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 10:31:06PM -0500, Richard Hoskins wrote: > I think it is probably more than 10% if you include Outlook. Outlook > is a must-have for organizations that are already heavily invested in > Exchange servers. Isn't koffice/kmail/kn

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 09:45:56PM -0500, Adam Aube wrote: > Personally, I think the time and money would be better spent improving > OpenOffice.org so it bridges that last 10% gap between it and MS Office. OpenOffice.org is Sun's pet project. Howev

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 07:15:28PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > But provided by IBM, not MS, right? (At least, that's what I recall > from the slashdot summary ... I confess to not reading the details.) Kind of. It's still MS Office, from Micro

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Richard Hoskins: > > So we're looking at IBM pitching Linux desktops at organizations > using Windows servers. Who would have thunk? That's even weirder. Linux takes corporate computing by storm. How? By abandoning the low end server market to Mickeysoft and going for the desktop

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Richard Hoskins
Adam Aube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Personally, I think the time and money would be better spent > improving OpenOffice.org so it bridges that last 10% gap between it > and MS Office. I think it is probably more than 10% if you include Outlook. Outlook is a must-have for organizations that a

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Adam Aube
On Sunday 15 February 2004 09:15 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On 2004-02-16, Christian Schnobrich penned: > > [btw, for all that didn't follow the link: it says there's to be a > > Microsoft Office for Linux] > > But provided by IBM, not MS, right? (At least, that's what I recall > from the slas

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-02-16, Christian Schnobrich penned: > On Son, 2004-02-15 at 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> Yeah, no kidding. I've gone and posted that up on my >> website...that's just bizarre. > > [btw, for all that didn't follow the link: it says there's to be a > Microsoft Office for Linux] But provi

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Christian Schnobrich
On Son, 2004-02-15 at 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote: > Yeah, no kidding. I've gone and posted that up on my website...that's > just bizarre. [btw, for all that didn't follow the link: it says there's to be a Microsoft Office for Linux] Hmmm. Reminds me of something I read years ago: if Linux gains

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 12:21:30AM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: > http://infoworld.com/article/04/02/13/HNlinuxoffice_1.html > > That's a wierd story. Yeah, no kidding. I've gone and posted that up on my website...that's just bizarre. http://ursine.ca/

Re: Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 12:21:30AM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: > http://infoworld.com/article/04/02/13/HNlinuxoffice_1.html > > That's a wierd story. Not from IBM's perspective. Reminiscent of the OS/2 for Windows 2.1 product, which pulled me out of Windows into alternatives. Kenward -- In a co

Holy Shee-it

2004-02-15 Thread Nano Nano
http://infoworld.com/article/04/02/13/HNlinuxoffice_1.html That's a wierd story. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]