Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-24 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> - Boot using the Grub on the X30's own HDD, and then ask Grub to boot >>the kernel+initrd found on the USB key (this is my favorite solution). > I think this is the path I should follow. It explicitly handles my immediate > problem and most likely satisfactorily handles issue(s) on other mac

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/23/2024 11:35 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: Relevant laptop is so old I don't know if it can boot from a physical USB device. I was suspecting that simplest thing would be copying suitable image to hard drive and let GRUB earn its keep ;} Indeed my trusty old Thinkpad X30 doesn't

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam! (was: mounting external hard drive...)

2024-06-23 Thread CHRIS M
On Sunday 23 June 2024 03:54:36 pm Felix Miata wrote: > > Stefan's isn't the only, but few others from any source become repeats, one > of which is every notification of new post added to subscribed thread on > forums.opensuse.org. > > Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed email into "known

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam! (was: mounting external hard drive...)

2024-06-23 Thread Felix Miata
Stefan Monnier composed on 2024-06-23 12:35 (UTC-0400): ... FWIW, this reply goes to list because I expect high probability Stefan would not see it otherwise. Most mailing list posts flow through to me unimpeded. Not so with Stefan's. AFAICT, every one of his is captured by Earthlink.net's "known s

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-23 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 12:35:19PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Indeed my trusty old Thinkpad X30 [...] > - Take the HDD out of the X30 [...] Ah, the old Thinkpads. Swapping out the HD always just one screw away. I'll miss my old X230 (one of the last capable of this trick) which is in proces

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Relevant laptop is so old I don't know if it can boot from a physical USB > device. I was suspecting that simplest thing would be copying suitable image > to hard drive and let GRUB earn its keep ;} Indeed my trusty old Thinkpad X30 doesn't boot from USB keys (tho in theory

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 10:38:29PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 12:37:29PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Will I outlive Debian 11/12? > > Well we're only talking a small single digit number of years here, > so I hope you have reason to be optimistic. > A colleag

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 12:37:29PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Will I outlive Debian 11/12? Well we're only talking a small single digit number of years here, so I hope you have reason to be optimistic. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 05:18:53PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 10:48 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > > [...] > > Thank you for reminding me of live images just now. Perfect timing. > > I have an i386 machine with some atypical constraints. > > https://www.debian.org/CD/live/

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 10:48 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > [...] > Thank you for reminding me of live images just now. Perfect timing. > I have an i386 machine with some atypical constraints. > https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ states only amd64 images are currently > available. > > Questions: >1.

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread David Christensen
y >> you have lying around and it comes really handy. > > Relevant laptop is so old I don't know if it can boot from a physical > USB device. I was suspecting that simplest thing would be copying > suitable image to hard drive and let GRUB earn its keep ;} So, the Sony l

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Richard Owlett
have lying around and it comes really handy. Stefan Snicker Relevant laptop is so old I don't know if it can boot from a physical USB device. I was suspecting that simplest thing would be copying suitable image to hard drive and let GRUB earn its keep ;}

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/22/2024 08:55 AM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 06:43:04AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Questions: 1. What is latest i386 live image available in some archive? 2. I have a working machine that will take a current full install of an i386 system. Can an average u

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Rather than creating a customized Debian Live image, I install Debian onto > a USB flash drive or onto a 2.5" SATA SSD connected via a USB-SATA adapter > cable: +1 It's pretty easy to make a simple Debian install on some old USB key you have lying around and it comes really handy. Ste

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread David Christensen
On 6/22/24 04:43, Richard Owlett wrote: Thank you for reminding me of live images just now. Perfect timing. I have an i386 machine with some atypical constraints. https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ states only amd64 images are currently available. Questions:   1. What is latest i386 live image a

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 06:43:04AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Questions: > 1. What is latest i386 live image available in some archive? > 2. I have a working machine that will take a current full install > of an i386 system. Can an average user create his own i386 live > inst

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/22/2024 07:39 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: 1. What is latest i386 live image available in some archive? I guess: https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/11.9.0-live/i386/iso-hybrid/ That solves a plethora of problems! Thank you. At least the page

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > 1. What is latest i386 live image available in some archive? I guess: https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/11.9.0-live/i386/iso-hybrid/ At least the pages for archived Live ISOs for Debian 12 list no i386 any more: https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdi

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/21/2024 09:59 PM, Max Nikulin wrote: On 21/06/2024 11:39, David Christensen wrote: On 6/20/24 19:10, Max Nikulin wrote: On 20/06/2024 12:06, David Christensen wrote: You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive. lsblk --fs perhaps with "-o +SIZE" may be more conv

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/06/2024 11:39, David Christensen wrote: On 6/20/24 19:10, Max Nikulin wrote: On 20/06/2024 12:06, David Christensen wrote: You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive. lsblk --fs perhaps with "-o +SIZE" may be more convenient to get overview of drives. The debi

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-20 Thread David Christensen
On 6/20/24 19:10, Max Nikulin wrote: On 20/06/2024 12:06, David Christensen wrote: You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive. lsblk --fs perhaps with "-o +SIZE" may be more convenient to get overview of drives. The debian-11.9.0-amd64-netinst rescue shell does not

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/06/2024 12:06, David Christensen wrote: You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive. lsblk --fs perhaps with "-o +SIZE" may be more convenient to get overview of drives.

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-19 Thread David Christensen
On 6/19/24 12:23, Heriberto Avelino wrote: On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 9:04 AM Heriberto Avelino wrote: Is it possible to mount an external hard drive while running Debian in rescue mode? Furthermore, the ultimate question is how could I copy folders from the computer's hard drive to the ext

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-19 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 01:23:01PM -0600, Heriberto Avelino wrote: > Thanks Eben and David! > I am now on a shell (BusyBox v.35.0 Debian 1:1.35.0-4+b3) > I don't see the mounting points to execute cp. As far as I know, you have dmesg in the rescue shell. So the way to go would be: - insert your e

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-19 Thread eben
On 6/19/24 15:23, Heriberto Avelino wrote: I am now on a shell (BusyBox v.35.0 Debian 1:1.35.0-4+b3) There is nothing under media nor root Things mounted by the system would probably show up under /media or /mnt . Where are the internal h-drive and the external? To mount those you need

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-19 Thread Heriberto Avelino
ciate your further help. Who could have envisioned a community like this back in the 80's? This is great! Heriberto On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 9:04 AM Heriberto Avelino < heriberto.avel...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear all: > Is it possible to mount an external hard drive while running D

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-19 Thread David Christensen
On 6/19/24 08:04, Heriberto Avelino wrote: Dear all: Is it possible to mount an external hard drive while running Debian in rescue mode? Yes. Furthermore, the ultimate question is how could I copy folders from the computer's hard drive to the external one while in rescue mode? Many t

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-19 Thread eben
On 6/19/24 11:04, Heriberto Avelino wrote: Furthermore, the ultimate question is how could I copy folders from the computer's hard drive to the external one while in rescue mode? Is your computer's hard drive is already mounted? Are you comfortable in a shell? -- For is it n

mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

2024-06-19 Thread Heriberto Avelino
Dear all: Is it possible to mount an external hard drive while running Debian in rescue mode? Furthermore, the ultimate question is how could I copy folders from the computer's hard drive to the external one while in rescue mode? Many thanks!! Heriberto

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-28 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-22, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > TL;DR: Copying an existing /home into a fresh Debian installation > causes audio in Steam games to glitch - but all other sound is OK. I have only the most vaporous ideas about Steam, but have you tried backing up and then recreating (if such a thing is pos

Re: SOLVED: Re: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-23 Thread eben
On 4/24/24 00:46, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 2024-04-22 16:50, Jeffrey Walton wrote: What are the old and new hard drive model numbers and specs? Correction: the 4TB drive is a Western Digital WD40EFPX.  I was reading it by shining a flashlight through a gap in the frame and squinting from a

SOLVED: Re: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-23 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 2024-04-22 16:50, Jeffrey Walton wrote: What are the old and new hard drive model numbers and specs? Correction: the 4TB drive is a Western Digital WD40EFPX. I was reading it by shining a flashlight through a gap in the frame and squinting from a wide angle because I didn't want to

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I doubt the new drive is slower than the old drive: Overall, agreed. Tho AFAICT the new drive spins slower (5400rpm vs 7200rpm), so it has a slightly higher rotational latency. This means that in *some* cases it can be slower. Now, I have no idea whether that's the cause of the glitches.

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-23 Thread David Christensen
On 4/23/24 09:02, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 2024-04-22 16:50, Jeffrey Walton wrote: What are the old and new hard drive model numbers and specs? The old drive is a Western Digital WD5000YS (500GB SATA). The new drive is a Western Digital Red, WF40EFPX (4TB

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-23 Thread David Christensen
On 4/22/24 21:26, Charlie Gibbs wrote: On 2024-04-22 16:50, Jeffrey Walton wrote: What are the old and new hard drive model numbers and specs? The old drive is a Western Digital WD5000YS (500GB SATA). https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-re2-wd5000ys-500gb/p/N82E16822136032?Item

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-23 Thread debian-user
Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2024-04-22 16:50, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > What are the old and new hard drive model numbers and specs? > > The old drive is a Western Digital WD5000YS (500GB SATA). > The new drive is a Western Digital Red, WF40EFPX (4TB SATA). According to

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-22 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 2024-04-22 16:50, Jeffrey Walton wrote: What are the old and new hard drive model numbers and specs? The old drive is a Western Digital WD5000YS (500GB SATA). The new drive is a Western Digital Red, WF40EFPX (4TB SATA). If the old hard drive was spinning rust, it is acceptable to replace

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
TV's big screen. I also play a few Steam games > (e.g. Portal) on it. It's a 2007-vintage machine, but it has 8GB > of RAM and enough CPU power to do the job, and runs the latest > version of Bookworm. > > Recently I decided to upgrade its storage capacity, and replaced

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Recently I decided to upgrade its storage capacity, and replaced > its 500GB hard drive (which was pretty large at the time I bought > it) with a 4TB drive. I did an install from scratch using a > network install CD, then copied my /home partition (using rsync) > fro

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-22 Thread David Christensen
on it.  It's a 2007-vintage machine, but it has 8GB of RAM and enough CPU power to do the job, and runs the latest version of Bookworm. Recently I decided to upgrade its storage capacity, and replaced its 500GB hard drive (which was pretty large at the time I bought it) with a 4TB drive.  I did

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-22 Thread Michel Verdier
es somewhere else > (/usr?) containing information critical to audio for Steam. Do you sync /etc ? Configuration is mainly there. > (Side question: is this an acceptable way to upgrade a hard drive?) There is other ways but yes if you also sync /etc :)

Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-21 Thread Charlie Gibbs
it has 8GB of RAM and enough CPU power to do the job, and runs the latest version of Bookworm. Recently I decided to upgrade its storage capacity, and replaced its 500GB hard drive (which was pretty large at the time I bought it) with a 4TB drive. I did an install from scratch using a network

Re: Portable External Hard Drive 2TB (was: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-07 Thread gene heskett
On 2/7/24 21:55, David Christensen wrote: On 1/22/24 19:55, gene heskett wrote: > 2T ssd's: > >

Re: Portable External Hard Drive 2TB (was: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-07 Thread gene heskett
On 2/7/24 21:55, David Christensen wrote: On 1/22/24 19:55, gene heskett wrote: > 2T ssd's: > >

Portable External Hard Drive 2TB (was: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-07 Thread David Christensen
On 1/22/24 19:55, gene heskett wrote: > 2T ssd's: > > It appears Amazon took down the ab

External hard drive not detected in debian 12 live environment

2023-07-15 Thread Thomas Nyberg
Hello, I have a new external hard drive "Western Digital My Passport Ultra" that doesn't seem to detect in any way when I plug it into a live debian 12 environment. If I run `journalctl -f` or `lsusb` or `lssci` or really anything else I can think of I can't find any evid

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-26 Thread David Christensen
. All tested with no errors. Good. I've done some of these. But as I am not seeing any more hard drive issues, I'm not going to spend any more time on the rest. Agreed. 7. Boot memtest86+ and run overnight or longer. Interestingly enough, memtest86 locks up right at the 4096 M

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-26 Thread Charles Curley
n the hard drives and SSD; all passed. I've seen no hard drive error messages all day. On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 14:56:50 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > On 4/25/22 07:18, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:52:15 -0700 > > David Christensen wrote: > > > &g

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-25 Thread David Christensen
On 4/25/22 07:18, Charles Curley wrote: On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:52:15 -0700 David Christensen wrote: So, RAID 5 HDD's are sda, sdc, and sdd, and optical is sdb? Optical is sr0. Interesting. (Must be the SATA controller expansion card?) sda is an SSD with all the system, /home, etc.

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-25 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:47:50 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > I will assume all three HDD's are the same make and model, per > smartctl(8) report below. Nope. Two WD Reds, as the report indicates, but not bought at the same time so likely to be different in detail. One Seagate Ironwolf. > >> H

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-25 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:52:15 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > So, RAID 5 HDD's are sda, sdc, and sdd, and optical is sdb? Optical is sr0. sda is an SSD with all the system, /home, etc. md0 is mounted at /crc. > > > You do have a backup of your Debian system configuration files and > your data

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-24 Thread David Christensen
On 4/24/22 17:10, Charles Curley wrote: On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 13:08:03 -0600 Charles Curley wrote: I have three hard drives in a RAID 5 array. RAID has not yet failed the errant drive. Just now, via ssh into finnix: root@0:~# cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [linear] [

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-24 Thread David Christensen
Western Digital Red Device Model: WDC WD40EFRX-68N32N0 Western Digital Red Plus NAS hard drive: https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-red-plus-sata-3-5-hdd#WD10EFRX SMART Extended Self-test Log Version: 1 (1 sectors) Num Test_DescriptionStatus

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-24 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 13:08:03 -0600 Charles Curley wrote: > I have three hard drives in a RAID 5 array. RAID has not yet failed the errant drive. Just now, via ssh into finnix: root@0:~# cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [linear] [multipath] [raid0] [raid1] [raid10] md1

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-24 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 14:07:14 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > On 4/24/22 12:08, Charles Curley wrote: > > I have three hard drives in a RAID 5 array. > > > What is the make and model of your motherboard? RAID HDD's? ASUS H97M-E > > > How is the motherboard connected to the HDD's? SATA. A

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-24 Thread David Christensen
On 4/24/22 12:08, Charles Curley wrote: I have three hard drives in a RAID 5 array. This morning my motherboard went wonky and crashed. USB devices on the motherboard are acting up. I cannot reboot to Debian. I can, however, boot to finnix 120. Using that, I have fscked all partitions, including

Re: Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-24 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Hello Charles On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 01:08:03PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > I have three hard drives in a RAID 5 array. This morning my motherboard > went wonky and crashed. USB devices on the motherboard are acting up. I > cannot reboot to Debian. I can, however, boot to finnix 120. Using > t

Do I need a new hard drive?

2022-04-24 Thread Charles Curley
I have three hard drives in a RAID 5 array. This morning my motherboard went wonky and crashed. USB devices on the motherboard are acting up. I cannot reboot to Debian. I can, however, boot to finnix 120. Using that, I have fscked all partitions, including the RAID array. I am running checksums, wi

Re: Throw an hard drive with Debian installation into...

2022-02-15 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 12:31:58PM +0200, Anssi Saari wrote: > Thomas Anderson writes: > > > I am curious, what would happen if I threw a fully functionally, > > > > Linux installation (HDD) into an entirely different hardware configuration: > > > > Different Process AMD->Intel? > > > > Ram/mobo

Re: Throw an hard drive with Debian installation into...

2022-02-15 Thread Anssi Saari
Thomas Anderson writes: > I am curious, what would happen if I threw a fully functionally, > > Linux installation (HDD) into an entirely different hardware configuration: > > Different Process AMD->Intel? > > Ram/mobo I assume doesn't matter? > > I half expect it to boot up, and be fully function

Re: Throw an hard drive with Debian installation into...

2022-02-15 Thread Thomas Anderson
Thanks for replies. It all makes sense once I get the answers. =) On 2/15/22 07:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 01:58:24AM +0100, Thomas Anderson wrote: I am curious, what would happen if I threw a fully functionally, Linux installation (HDD) into an entirely different har

Re: Throw an hard drive with Debian installation into...

2022-02-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 01:58:24AM +0100, Thomas Anderson wrote: > I am curious, what would happen if I threw a fully functionally, > > Linux installation (HDD) into an entirely different hardware configuration: It depends :-) It starts with the bootloader: different hardware boots in very diffe

Re: Throw an hard drive with Debian installation into...

2022-02-14 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2022-02-14 19:58, Thomas Anderson wrote: > I am curious, what would happen if I threw a fully functionally, > > Linux installation (HDD) into an entirely different hardware configuration: > > Different Process AMD->Intel? > > Ram/mobo I assume doesn't matter? > > I half expect it to boot u

Throw an hard drive with Debian installation into...

2022-02-14 Thread Thomas Anderson
I am curious, what would happen if I threw a fully functionally, Linux installation (HDD) into an entirely different hardware configuration: Different Process AMD->Intel? Ram/mobo I assume doesn't matter? I half expect it to boot up, and be fully functional. But, I have not tested it. I am n

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-24 Thread Thomas Anderson
Thank you everyone that helped me with this issue. I learned a great deal. Namely, for my particular use case, SMR drives are sub-optimal. It is VERY difficult to even find out if drives are SMR or CMR, because apparently the manufacturers try to put it all out the door. As mentioned by Mr. R

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-21 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 9:02 AM David wrote: > On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 23:53, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > And what does this SMR acronym mean, Dan? > > Questions like this can be answered with an > internet search engine. Search for "Seagate SMR". > For fun you can add search terms like > "controvers

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-21 Thread piorunz
On 21/10/2021 03:34, David Christensen wrote: Very detailed analysis, better than mine! Much appreciated. -- With kindest regards, Piotr. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org ⠈⠳⣄

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 21 October 2021 09:02:01 David wrote: > On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 23:53, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And what does this SMR acronym mean, Dan? > > Questions like this can be answered with an > internet search engine. Search for "Seagate SMR". > For fun you can add search terms like > "contr

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 21 oct 21, 16:02:43, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 21 oct 21, 08:53:10, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 21 October 2021 08:13:26 Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === > > > > Device Model: ST8000DM004-2CX188 > > > > > > You should be able to return this

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 21 oct 21, 08:53:10, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 21 October 2021 08:13:26 Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === > > > Device Model: ST8000DM004-2CX188 > > > > You should be able to return this drive without proving that it > > is defective; this is one of

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-21 Thread David
On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 23:53, Gene Heskett wrote: > And what does this SMR acronym mean, Dan? Questions like this can be answered with an internet search engine. Search for "Seagate SMR". For fun you can add search terms like "controversy guilty dreaded bad press" etc.

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 21 October 2021 08:13:26 Dan Ritter wrote: > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === > > Device Model: ST8000DM004-2CX188 > > You should be able to return this drive without proving that it > is defective; this is one of Seagates' SMR drives that they did > not disclose were SMR. >

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-21 Thread Dan Ritter
Thomas Anderson wrote: > Here are the results, of my smartctl test: > > I am trying to parse them myself, to see if I can learn anything. But, > immediate glance > > and queries did not reveal anything that could help me determine if the > drive is good or not. > > > smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 21 oct 21, 02:12:25, piorunz wrote: > > Lastly, you should use it in RAID1 or similar mode, to ensure there is > always backup of data this drive keeps. RAID is meant only for uptime, backup is something else, see: http://taobackup.com/. > You can try Btrfs raid1 or mdadm raid1. Mostly

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-20 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 01:45:52AM +0200, Thomas Anderson wrote: > I am trying to parse them myself, to see if I can learn anything. But, > immediate glance and queries did not reveal anything that could help > me determine if the drive is good or not. It's not. You have a Seagate, af

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-20 Thread David Christensen
> On 10/18/21 6:52 PM, Reco wrote: >>Hi. >> >> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 06:25:19PM +0200, Thomas Anderson wrote: >>> I have been having problems with a drive (non-SSD) for a while now, >>> but I would like to "identify" the problem specifically, so that I may >>> perhaps be able to get the

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-20 Thread piorunz
On 21/10/2021 00:45, Thomas Anderson wrote: Here are the results, of my smartctl test: Five metrics from smartctl require attention: Device ModelST8000DM004-2CX188 9 Power_On_Hours 14558 183 Runtime_Bad_Block 5 187 Reported_Uncorrect 1334

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 20 October 2021 19:45:52 Thomas Anderson wrote: > Here are the results, of my smartctl test: > This would be much easier to decode if you turned off wordwrap, and repasted from that terminal screen. > I am trying to parse them myself, to see if I can learn anything. But, > immediate

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-20 Thread Thomas Anderson
Here are the results, of my smartctl test: I am trying to parse them myself, to see if I can learn anything. But, immediate glance and queries did not reveal anything that could help me determine if the drive is good or not. smartctl 6.6 2017-11-05 r4594 [x86_64-linux-4.19.0-18-amd64] (local bu

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-18 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Essentially, I have been experienced data loss, where nodes become > unreadable, when I try to "fix it" with fdisk, it says it moves unreadable > to the trash, basically deleting data. "it says"? Can you clarify what is this "it"? Drive-level errors of "unreadable data" normally lead to errors

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-18 Thread David Christensen
On 10/18/21 9:25 AM, Thomas Anderson wrote: Hello Gurus, I have been having problems with a drive (non-SSD) for a while now, but I would like to "identify" the problem specifically, so that I may perhaps be able to get the drive replaced. Essentially, I have been experienced data loss, where

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-18 Thread basti
Have a look at "smartctl". It will print some info about the drive and can also "test" your drive known as S.M.A.R.T-test. First of all i would have a look what "smartctl -a /dev/sdX" will say. Am 18.10.21 um 18:25 schrieb Thomas Anderson: > Hello Gurus, > > I have been having problems with a dr

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-18 Thread Thomas Anderson
Cool, thanks Reco! Will post again tomorrow =) Takes 987 minutes apparently. On 10/18/21 6:52 PM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 06:25:19PM +0200, Thomas Anderson wrote: I have been having problems with a drive (non-SSD) for a while now, but I would like to "identify" the pro

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-18 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 06:25:19PM +0200, Thomas Anderson wrote: > I have been having problems with a drive (non-SSD) for a while now, > but I would like to "identify" the problem specifically, so that I may > perhaps be able to get the drive replaced. Assuming it's SATA/IDE drive, al

Re: Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-18 Thread Felix Miata
Thomas Anderson composed on 2021-10-18 18:25 (UTC+0200): > I have been having problems with a drive (non-SSD) for a while now, but > I would like to "identify" the problem specifically, so that I may > perhaps be able to get the drive replaced. > Essentially, I have been experienced data loss,

Sata Hard drive testing

2021-10-18 Thread Thomas Anderson
Hello Gurus, I have been having problems with a drive (non-SSD) for a while now, but I would like to "identify" the problem specifically, so that I may perhaps be able to get the drive replaced. Essentially, I have been experienced data loss, where nodes become unreadable, when I try to "fix

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-19 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 07:27:17AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > I think the primary use case of debian-user-offtopic would be to > have a place for people on debian-user to tell others to move > their threads. It is technically feasible of course. That's not the bit I'd have doubts about. O

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-19 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-19 9:04 a.m., Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Thu, 2021-08-19 at 07:23 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> I've been subscribed to this list for a long time and I've seen a >> change in how it is being used, which I think is harmful to its core >> purpose > > 100% agree. I'm another long tim

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-19 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, 2021-08-19 at 07:23 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I've been subscribed to this list for a long time and I've seen a > change in how it is being used, which I think is harmful to its core > purpose 100% agree. I'm another long time subscriber here and this is just bonkers lately. The n

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-19 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-19 2:18 a.m., deloptes wrote: > Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> You seem pretty good a drawing a line between *good* and *bad*, always >> putting yourself on the *good* side. >> > > see this is exactly the attitude I am reffering to. > >> What if ? What if there wasn't

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 01:34:24AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: What if ? What if there wasn't any *bad* user ? You are the one bringing over old subject that you consider off-topic. You seem really touched by giving your self a role as governor of a mailing list or policing what

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread deloptes
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > You seem pretty good a drawing a line between *good* and *bad*, always > putting yourself on the *good* side. > see this is exactly the attitude I am reffering to. > What if ? What if there wasn't any *bad* user ? You are the one bringing > over old sub

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-18 12:57 p.m., Brian wrote: > On Wed 18 Aug 2021 at 14:27:13 +0200, deloptes wrote: > >> Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> >>> I think the way forward this time would be to request one on the >>> official Debian mailing list server, rather than elsewhere.  But, >>> such a list will only serv

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-17 7:04 p.m., Brian wrote: > On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 14:56:30 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > [...] > >> Hmm, afaiac, it would be nice to have an off-topic list with the hopes of a >> lot >> of the people on debian-user might subscribe to it. > > Nice? Really? There was one. It

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread Brian
On Wed 18 Aug 2021 at 14:27:13 +0200, deloptes wrote: > Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > I think the way forward this time would be to request one on the > > official Debian mailing list server, rather than elsewhere.  But, > > such a list will only serve its purpose if it gets used *instead* > > of

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread deloptes
Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I think the way forward this time would be to request one on the > official Debian mailing list server, rather than elsewhere.  But, > such a list will only serve its purpose if it gets used *instead* > of off-topic conversations on this list. Does anyone think that > d-c

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 07:27:17 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > I think the primary use case of debian-user-offtopic would be to > have a place for people on debian-user to tell others to move > their threads. That sounds like a useful thing -- somebody could point out that a post is off- topic and

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 02:56:30PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hmm, afaiac, it would be nice to have an off-topic list with the hopes of a > > lot > > of the people on debian-user might subscribe to it. > > I think the way forward this time would be to request

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 02:56:30PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, afaiac, it would be nice to have an off-topic list with the hopes of a lot of the people on debian-user might subscribe to it. I think the way forward this time would be to request one on the official Debian mailing list s

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-17 Thread Brian
On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 14:56:30 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] > Hmm, afaiac, it would be nice to have an off-topic list with the hopes of a > lot > of the people on debian-user might subscribe to it. Nice? Really? There was one. It failed abysmally in its task. The boys and girls post

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