On Tue, 5 Apr 2016 09:25:16 -0400
Carl Fink wrote:
> "This list is not moderated ..."
>
> >From https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/
>
> Dammit!
>
> If this was netnews I'd newgroup debian-user-politics in a heartbeat
> and start moving messages there.
debian-user-polit...@lists.debian.org-
On Tue, 5 Apr 2016 09:25:16 -0400
Carl Fink wrote:
> "This list is not moderated ..."
>
> >From https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/
>
> Dammit!
>
> If this was netnews I'd newgroup debian-user-politics in a heartbeat
> and start moving messages there.
There's a uk.politics.misc with contr
"This list is not moderated ..."
>From https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/
Dammit!
If this was netnews I'd newgroup debian-user-politics in a heartbeat and
start moving messages there.
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>> Where are you from, deloptes?
>>
>
>I believe he lost the war and is trying to win the subsequent battle.
Complotist !
:)
Being a little bit serious there, are you *really* thinking that anyone (except
the ones selling weapons to the different competitors) are winning anything in
a war or a
On 2016-04-05, Adam Wilson wrote:
>
> On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 21:41:54 +0200
> deloptes wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately as a not native speaker
>
> Where are you from, deloptes?
>
I believe he lost the war and is trying to win the subsequent battle.
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Hypertext--or should I say the ideology of hypertex
On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 21:41:54 +0200
deloptes wrote:
> Unfortunately as a not native speaker
Where are you from, deloptes?
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Glenn Holmer wrote:
> On 04/04/2016 10:21 AM, Adam Wilson wrote:
>> Unfortunately, these people are what most of the population consist of.
>
>> On 04/03/2016 02:17 PM, Adam Wilson wrote:
>>> On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 15:15:54 -0400
>>> Carl Fink wrote:
>>>
Does this list have moderators? Because
On 04/04/2016 10:21 AM, Adam Wilson wrote:
> Unfortunately, these people are what most of the population consist of.
> On 04/03/2016 02:17 PM, Adam Wilson wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 15:15:54 -0400
>> Carl Fink wrote:
>>
>>> Does this list have moderators? Because this is absurd.
>>
>> Yes. Bu
On Sun, 3 Apr 2016 15:27:32 -0400
Felix Miata wrote:
> Adam Wilson composed on 2016-04-03 22:11 (UTC+0300):
>
> > Both the USA and the USSR claimed to be democracies- and neither
> > were.
>
> Only the misinformed and uninformed claim the USA is or ever has been
> a democracy.
Unfortunately, t
On 04/03/2016 05:41 AM, Adam Wilson wrote:
> Surely the start of the Sino-Japanese war would
Moderators... please, I beg you.
--
Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
"After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
Adam Wilson composed on 2016-04-03 22:11 (UTC+0300):
Both the USA and the USSR claimed to be democracies- and neither were.
Only the misinformed and uninformed claim the USA is or ever has been a
democracy.
--
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." P
On Sun, 03 Apr 2016 20:47:30 +0200
deloptes wrote:
> Adam Wilson wrote:
>
> >
> > I consider the second world war an extension of the first- there
> > really was only one "hot" World War, from the 1910s to the 1940s,
> > with two major outbreaks of violence as the old (European) imperial
> > or
Adam Wilson wrote:
>
> I consider the second world war an extension of the first- there really
> was only one "hot" World War, from the 1910s to the 1940s, with two major
> outbreaks of violence as the old (European) imperial order collapsed and
> the new (American) imperial order arose.
>
> The
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:30:33 -0400
do...@mail.com wrote:
> So far we have read about a conspiracy story, argued over when WW2
> started, even questioned the US motivation for joining in the fray. But we
> have yet to read about the lessons learned, so I've made up a short list.
>
> We've learne
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 09:52:10 -0400
Haines Brown wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 02:37:32PM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> > > Hmm, despite what you guys seem to think, WW2 started on 1 Sept 1939.
>
> It seems obvious that when the war started depends on one's
> situation. One could argue, for example
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 09:52:10 -0400
Haines Brown wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 02:37:32PM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> > > Hmm, despite what you guys seem to think, WW2 started on 1 Sept 1939.
>
> It seems obvious that when the war started depends on one's
> situation. One could argue, for example
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 14:38:32 +
Terence wrote:
> I would agree, with the battle of El Alamein coming at the same time, the
> Wehrmacht were suddenly- and strategically- on the defensive on their major
> Eastern Front, but also in the south, in their "soft underbelly"..
I would say the main tu
On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 00:37:05 +0200
deloptes wrote:
> Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
>
> > ISTR that occupation was over with the re-unification of Germany in
> > October 1990.
>
> Yes for the Soviet Union but not for the USA ;-)
>
> It's not conspiracy - just check the facts. There is nothing sig
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:39:30 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
> deloptes writes:
> > The fact is that the "basic law" imposed by the Allies after 1945 (I
> > think it was signed 49) is still the official constitution of Germany.
>
> By this line of reasoning Canada is still a British colony.
Agreed. A
On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 01:11:50 +0200
deloptes wrote:
> Terence wrote:
>
> > As for "Germany is still officially occupied by the USA" I rather think
> > that they would disagree! The military occupation of Germany ended in
> > 1945...
>
> What ended in your mind might not be true.
> There is no pi
On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 16:06:15 +0100
Terence wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Again, I am not sure where you get your facts- what has the 6th June 1944
> as a date have to do with it? And why not earlier?
>
> If you are talking about the war reparations demanded by the victorious
> allies in WW1 (by any account
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 14:37:32 +0100
deloptes wrote:
> Tony van der Hoff wrote:
>
> > On 26/03/16 01:13, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Tom. Its hell for an old fart who can still remember his
> >> grandfathers tears the night of Dec 7, 1941. Tears because he knew we
> >> would declare war
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 11:46:37 -0400
Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 26 March 2016 08:22:06 Tony van der Hoff wrote:
>
> > On 26/03/16 01:13, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Thanks Tom. Its hell for an old fart who can still remember his
> > > grandfathers tears the night of Dec 7, 1941. Tears becau
So far we have read about a conspiracy story, argued over when WW2
started, even questioned the US motivation for joining in the fray. But we
have yet to read about the lessons learned, so I've made up a short list.
We've learned that if you use all the gunpowder today then your children
and you
I agree with Glenn, It was mildly amusing at first- but one can't educate
pork.
On 30 March 2016 at 13:31, Glenn Holmer wrote:
> On 03/30/2016 01:21 AM, deloptes wrote:
> > John Hasler wrote:
> >
> >> Charlie writes:
> >>> Was Canada conquered by the British
>
> Enough! Take it off-list!
>
> --
On 03/30/2016 01:21 AM, deloptes wrote:
> John Hasler wrote:
>
>> Charlie writes:
>>> Was Canada conquered by the British
Enough! Take it off-list!
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Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
"After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
John Hasler wrote:
> Charlie writes:
>> Was Canada conquered by the British
>
> Yes. They took it from the French.
>
>> and did they have a treaty with Canada or did Canada make a treaty
>> with the Brits?
>
> The British parliament passed a number of acts dealing with the
> governance of Cana
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:04:01 -0500 John Hasler sent:
> Charlie writes:
> > Was Canada conquered by the British
>
> Yes. They took it from the French.
>
> > and did they have a treaty with Canada or did Canada make a treaty
> > with the Brits?
>
> The British parliament passed a number of a
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:39:30 -0500 John Hasler sent:
> deloptes writes:
> > The fact is that the "basic law" imposed by the Allies after 1945 (I
> > think it was signed 49) is still the official constitution of
> > Germany.
>
> By this line of reasoning Canada is still a British colony.
What r
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:39:30 -0500 John Hasler sent:
> deloptes writes:
> > The fact is that the "basic law" imposed by the Allies after 1945 (I
> > think it was signed 49) is still the official constitution of
> > Germany.
>
> By this line of reasoning Canada is still a British colony.
What r
Charlie writes:
> Was Canada conquered by the British
Yes. They took it from the French.
> and did they have a treaty with Canada or did Canada make a treaty
> with the Brits?
The British parliament passed a number of acts dealing with the
governance of Canada. These form the "basic law" of th
deloptes writes:
> The fact is that the "basic law" imposed by the Allies after 1945 (I
> think it was signed 49) is still the official constitution of Germany.
By this line of reasoning Canada is still a British colony.
--
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jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA
John Hasler wrote:
> deloptes writes:
>> It's not conspiracy - just check the facts. There is nothing signed
>> from USA part.
>
> Nonsense. See
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Treaty
> and
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Plus_Four_Agreement
See my comment to Terence.
These materia
Terence wrote:
> As for "Germany is still officially occupied by the USA" I rather think
> that they would disagree! The military occupation of Germany ended in
> 1945...
What ended in your mind might not be true.
There is no piece treaty with Germany and USA. There is the so called 2+4
treaty (1
deloptes writes:
> It's not conspiracy - just check the facts. There is nothing signed
> from USA part.
Nonsense. See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Treaty
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Plus_Four_Agreement
--
John Hasler
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> ISTR that occupation was over with the re-unification of Germany in
> October 1990.
Yes for the Soviet Union but not for the USA ;-)
It's not conspiracy - just check the facts. There is nothing signed from USA
part.
Sorry - I was also surprised
Forgive me...
On 28 March 2016 at 17:57, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 3/28/2016 10:08 AM, Terence wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the typo! The last date should read 1955- to err is
>> human...
>>
> But we divine?
> ??
> lol
>
>
>
>
On 3/28/2016 10:08 AM, Terence wrote:
Sorry for the typo! The last date should read 1955- to err is
human...
But we divine?
??
lol
Sorry for the typo! The last date should read 1955- to err is human...
Hi,
Again, I am not sure where you get your facts- what has the 6th June 1944
as a date have to do with it? And why not earlier?
If you are talking about the war reparations demanded by the victorious
allies in WW1 (by any account largely caused by Wilhelm) they were never
paid, and the engineere
On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 13:53:02 +0200
deloptes wrote:
> And Germany is still officially occupied by the USA.
ISTR that occupation was over with the re-unification of Germany in October
1990.
Cheers,
Ron.
--
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and the necessitie
On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 01:53:02PM +0200, deloptes wrote:
> This is also what I thought before consolidating my knowledge on the matter.
> There is a simple fact. 6 June 1944 - D-Day - not earlier.
> So IMO the west was always hypocritical as it is today. First they sucked
> all the blood money fr
Terence wrote:
> I don't know where the idea that the USA entered the war to stop the USSR
> invading Western Europe came from. In December 1941 Germany was deep
> inside Russia, and it took the combined Allied might of Great Britain, the
> USA and the USSR nearly four years to defeat them.
This
On Saturday 26 March 2016 08:22:06 Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> On 26/03/16 01:13, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Thanks Tom. Its hell for an old fart who can still remember his
> > grandfathers tears the night of Dec 7, 1941. Tears because he knew
> > we would declare war.
> >
> > And I believe thats th
I would agree, with the battle of El Alamein coming at the same time, the
Wehrmacht were suddenly- and strategically- on the defensive on their major
Eastern Front, but also in the south, in their "soft underbelly"..
Of course, this all happened long before GNU/Linux and Debian...
On 26 March 201
On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 01:57:33PM +, Terence wrote:
> If you count Japan's actions in China and Manchuria then the war started in
> the
> early 'thirties.
If we are to be historically accurate, WWII was a continuation of WWI as
far as the West is concerned, and perhaps even of the Russo-Japa
If you count Japan's actions in China and Manchuria then the war started in
the early 'thirties. As for Germany, Hitler declared war on the USA on the
11 Dec 41, along with Italy, as Hitler, although not legally bound to
support Japan if they were the aggressor, believed that the USA would "beat
hi
Le septidi 7 germinal, an CCXXIV, deloptes a écrit :
> He is mixing up Perl Harbor 1941
Using regexps in a war is fighting dirty for sure.
Regards,
--
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On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 02:37:32PM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> > Hmm, despite what you guys seem to think, WW2 started on 1 Sept 1939.
It seems obvious that when the war started depends on one's
situation. One could argue, for example, that it started in 1937 with
the Rape of Nanking.
Haines
Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> On 26/03/16 01:13, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
>> Thanks Tom. Its hell for an old fart who can still remember his
>> grandfathers tears the night of Dec 7, 1941. Tears because he knew we
>> would declare war.
>>
>> And I believe thats the last war we fully intended to win.
On 26/03/16 01:13, Gene Heskett wrote:
Thanks Tom. Its hell for an old fart who can still remember his
grandfathers tears the night of Dec 7, 1941. Tears because he knew we
would declare war.
And I believe thats the last war we fully intended to win. Its all been
downhill since.
Cheers, Gen
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