This is a bit old, but...
On 2021-04-24 15:37:28 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Vincent Lefevre composed on 2021-04-24 21:05 (UTC+0200):
>
> > Yes, very bad experience with the nouveau driver (I haven't tried
> > recently with the latest kernels, but my bug reports remained
> > unanswered), which is
Am 24.04.21 um 22:46 schrieb Alexander V. Makartsev:
On 23.04.2021 21:31, Malte Marwedel wrote:
Has anyone experience with Nvidia cards without closed source drivers
and newer kernels?
I've stopped my attempts to make "nouveau" work a long time ago and
never looked back.
It is not finished, it
On 23.04.2021 21:31, Malte Marwedel wrote:
Has anyone experience with Nvidia cards without closed source drivers
and newer kernels?
I've stopped my attempts to make "nouveau" work a long time ago and
never looked back.
It is not finished, it lacks so much even basic functionality and now
that d
Vincent Lefevre composed on 2021-04-24 21:05 (UTC+0200):
> Yes, very bad experience with the nouveau driver (I haven't tried
> recently with the latest kernels, but my bug reports remained
> unanswered), which is the only free driver I know. In particular,
> it is unusable with my laptop and an ex
On 2021-04-23 18:31:55 +0200, Malte Marwedel wrote:
> Has anyone experience with Nvidia cards without closed source drivers and
> newer kernels?
Yes, very bad experience with the nouveau driver (I haven't tried
recently with the latest kernels, but my bug reports remained
unanswered), which is the
Malte Marwedel composed on 2021-04-23 18:31 (UTC+0200):
> Any Ideas? I don't want to install the closed source module, I had
> enough pain with fglrx ~10 years ago.
I've never installed NVidia's proprietary drivers o
Just a data point - I'd been using nvidia cards for years.
Onmy current workstation, a Dell XPS 8930, the nvidia binary blob worked
well, unless and until I booted a kernel other than the straight vanilla
from the distro. After upgrading to the low latency kernel, it was
goodbye GUI. So I reve
Has anyone experience with Nvidia cards without closed source drivers
and newer kernels?
Recently my AMD card died, so I got a fast replacement from a friend - a
GeForce GTX 660.
With the kernel 5.5.9, the PC stops booting after GRUB. The kernel tries
to set the resolution of the console and sto
Le 01.10.2014 16:39, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit :
Hello.
I have recently acquired 2 (identical, 4/3 shaped) screens, so I
combined them with my current favorite screen on a computer which
have
2 graphic cards, but it seems that Debian did not enabled the second
card.
I have tried
Le 01.10.2014 17:26, Sven Joachim a écrit :
On 2014-10-01 16:39 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
I have recently acquired 2 (identical, 4/3 shaped) screens, so I
combined them with my current favorite screen on a computer which
have
2 graphic cards, but it seems that Debian did n
Le 01.10.2014 18:51, Gábor Hársfalvi a écrit :
Hi,
Do you use SLI?
If answer is yes
->
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/guide-how-to-enable-use-and-configure-sli-on-linux.52953
[6] is the first thing, what you need.
After that I had to use my /etc/default/grub with "vmalloc=320"
p
Le 02.10.2014 03:11, Ric Moore a écrit :
On 10/01/2014 10:39 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Does anyone knows if nouveau is supports a configuration with 2
graphic
cards, or do I have to install NVidia's drivers to do the job?
Does someone have some links to documents which could e
it for a long time.
success,
floris
Well, xrandr works very fine, with 2 screens on the same graphic card.
My problem is that, it does not sees the second graphic card, and so it
does not sees the screen connected on it. I still have not tried nvidia,
hopefully it'll detect both card
On 10/01/2014 10:39 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Does anyone knows if nouveau is supports a configuration with 2 graphic
cards, or do I have to install NVidia's drivers to do the job?
Does someone have some links to documents which could explain how to
enable that 2nd card?
I disab
Op Wed, 01 Oct 2014 16:39:56 +0200 schreef :
Hello.
I have recently acquired 2 (identical, 4/3 shaped) screens, so I
combined them with my current favorite screen on a computer which have 2
graphic cards, but it seems that Debian did not enabled the second card.
I have tried it on a tempo
Hi,
Do you use SLI?
If answer is yes ->
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/guide-how-to-enable-use-and-configure-sli-on-linux.52953
is
the first thing, what you need.
After that I had to use my /etc/default/grub with "vmalloc=320" parameter.
Good Luck!
2014-10-01 17:26 GMT+02:00 Sven J
On 2014-10-01 16:39 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> I have recently acquired 2 (identical, 4/3 shaped) screens, so I
> combined them with my current favorite screen on a computer which have
> 2 graphic cards, but it seems that Debian did not enabled the second
> card.
>
> I have trie
Hello.
I have recently acquired 2 (identical, 4/3 shaped) screens, so I
combined them with my current favorite screen on a computer which have 2
graphic cards, but it seems that Debian did not enabled the second card.
I have tried it on a temporary Ubuntu install, and it works fine out of
th
op 18-08-14 15:34, merkeda...@vmail.me schreef:
> hi,
>
>
> I am on dual-boot debian 7 & ubuntu 14 (updated) with two choices on my
> laptop :
> Nvidia or Intel.
> Optimus technology manage it with the soft "prime" allowing switching
> the graphic-card easi
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 18 August 2014 14:34:46 merkeda...@vmail.me wrote:
Very simple with ubuntu, even the french doc is easily readable :
No doubt it is very simple with Windows too.
This is the Debian list. Why must we keep being told how simple Ubuntu is?
Bully for Ubuntu.
Lisi
On Monday 18 August 2014 14:34:46 merkeda...@vmail.me wrote:
> Very simple with ubuntu, even the french doc is easily readable :
No doubt it is very simple with Windows too.
This is the Debian list. Why must we keep being told how simple Ubuntu is?
Bully for Ubuntu.
Lisi
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hi,
I am on dual-boot debian 7 & ubuntu 14 (updated) with two choices on my
laptop :
Nvidia or Intel.
Optimus technology manage it with the soft "prime" allowing switching
the graphic-card easily.
On ubuntu, it is clear & neat ; i add nvidia settings - it chooses and
d
2013/10/7 Erwan David :
> Hello,
>
> I am in testing, and I have a radeom 4000 graphic card. I used to use
> the radeon driver but I had to switch after kernel 3.10, because I
> got GUI freeze of 20 to 30 s avery 15 to 20 minutes, making it
> unusable.
>
> But now I see
Hello,
I am in testing, and I have a radeom 4000 graphic card. I used to use
the radeon driver but I had to switch after kernel 3.10, because I
got GUI freeze of 20 to 30 s avery 15 to 20 minutes, making it
unusable.
But now I see that fglrx-legacy is not compatible with the new
xorg. Is there a
On Ma, 25 iun 13, 20:21:15, David Christensen wrote:
>
> I have an older machine with motherboard NVIDIA graphics. Building
> and installing the NVIDIA proprietary driver wasn't too hard, but I
> have experience with Linux kernel and embedded systems programming.
> The kicker was keeping the vide
On 25/06/13 11:21 PM, David Christensen wrote:
On 06/25/13 00:12, a...@alphanet.ch wrote:
1. Your budget.
<= ~$150
2. What applications you plan to run.
Some office applications, no games, max HD video. I actually have
problems with fast forward (up to a frozen picture...)
3. How many monito
On 06/25/13 00:12, a...@alphanet.ch wrote:
1. Your budget.
<= ~$150
2. What applications you plan to run.
Some office applications, no games, max HD video. I actually have
problems with fast forward (up to a frozen picture...)
3. How many monitor(s) you have (or will buy) and their interfaces
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 19:02 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 09:48 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > > > (I've been using Linux for about 12 years--switched from the
> > > > Amiga, n
On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 19:02 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 09:48 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > > (I've been using Linux for about 12 years--switched from the
> > > Amiga, not Windows)
> >
> > I switched from the Atari ST to L
Hi,
Thanks everyone for answers ! Here are more information :
David Christensen writes:
On 06/24/13 01:37, a...@alphanet.ch wrote:
Hi,
I am a debian user and I am looking to buy a new computer (I will build
it).
I simply wonder if it is better to take a graphic card with an ATI or a
NVIDIA
On 06/24/13 01:37, a...@alphanet.ch wrote:
Hi,
I am a debian user and I am looking to buy a new computer (I will build
it).
I simply wonder if it is better to take a graphic card with an ATI or a
NVIDIA chipset.
Can someone please give me an advice ?
It would help if you told us:
1. Your
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 09:48 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > (I've been using Linux for about 12 years--switched from the
> > Amiga, not Windows)
>
> I switched from the Atari ST to Linux 10 years ago, but I've got a
> 80286 hardware emulator mounted ins
On 24/06/13 03:54 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 12:23 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
If you do need more power, I personally would go with AMD a generation
back (OSS drivers). I am not willing to use closed drivers, both for
ideology and for the hassle the create with kernel updates
On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 12:23 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> If you do need more power, I personally would go with AMD a generation
> back (OSS drivers). I am not willing to use closed drivers, both for
> ideology and for the hassle the create with kernel updates...others
> may disagree...
I can't us
On 24/06/13 03:23 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote:
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:37 AM, wrote:
Hi,
I am a debian user and I am looking to buy a new computer (I will build it).
I simply wonder if it is better to take a graphic card with an ATI or a
NVIDIA chipset.
Can someone please give me an advice
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:37 AM, wrote:
> Hi,
> I am a debian user and I am looking to buy a new computer (I will build it).
> I simply wonder if it is better to take a graphic card with an ATI or a
> NVIDIA chipset.
> Can someone please give me an advice ?
Are you going to
On Lu, 24 iun 13, 09:48:24, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> Since you're building your system, one word of advice: regardless of
> what hardware you choose, make sure it's been on the market for at
> least six months. That gives "the community" time to write drivers and
> other support for it. If you
On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 09:48 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> (I've been using Linux for about 12 years--switched from the
> Amiga, not Windows)
I switched from the Atari ST to Linux 10 years ago, but I've got a 80286
hardware emulator mounted inside my 520ST and 4 MB PC RAM replaced the
512 KB, howe
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, a...@alphanet.ch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am a debian user and I am looking to buy a new computer (I will
> build it).
>
> I simply wonder if it is better to take a graphic card with an ATI or
> a NVIDIA chipset.
>
> Can someone please give me an
On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 15:04 +0300, Alex Moonshine wrote:
> So if you don't mind using proprietary drivers, I would recommend
> sticking with Nvidia.
+1 for NVIDA, but the license for the proprietary driver is an issue,
when using a kernel-rt, IOW it can't always be used, at least you need
to offen
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:37:38 +0200
a...@alphanet.ch wrote:
> I simply wonder if it is better to take a graphic card with an ATI or
> a NVIDIA chipset.
I've had all kinds of problems with ATI proprietary drivers (fglrx),
from missing hardware acceleration to freezing desktop and
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:37:38AM +0200, a...@alphanet.ch wrote:
> I simply wonder if it is better to take a graphic card with an ATI
> or a NVIDIA chipset.
I've had zero trouble with NVIDIA cards. Might be best not to buy the
latest and greatest though.
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On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:37:38 +0200, wrote:
I simply wonder if it is better to take a graphic card with an ATI or a
NVIDIA chipset.
I experienced the FLOSS driver for NVIDA as working better for e.g.
transparent windows, than the ATI one. Regarding to the proprietary
drivers ATI doesn&#
Hi,
I am a debian user and I am looking to buy a new computer (I will build it).
I simply wonder if it is better to take a graphic card with an ATI or a
NVIDIA chipset.
Can someone please give me an advice ?
Thanks, best regards,
Amka
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On Sat, 04 May 2013, Yue Wu wrote:
> I have encountered a very weird problem with my NVIDIA Tesla graphic
> card.
>
> I installed Debian Wheezy, and I disabled nouveau which is the default
> graphic driver used by Debian. But later when I rebooted my OS, there
> was completel
Yue Wu wrote:
Hi all,
I have encountered a very weird problem with my NVIDIA Tesla graphic card.
I installed Debian Wheezy, and I disabled nouveau which is the default
graphic driver used by Debian. But later when I rebooted my OS, there
was completely no output on the screen.
How can I solve
Hi all,
I have encountered a very weird problem with my NVIDIA Tesla graphic card.
I installed Debian Wheezy, and I disabled nouveau which is the default
graphic driver used by Debian. But later when I rebooted my OS, there
was completely no output on the screen.
How can I solve this problem
> Yeah, but why does it take several seconds?
> Have you tried another DE/WM combination?
> So, really in fact, you want to run KDE at a higher resolution than what
> your card is capable of?
I don't know why the virtual consoles go BLANK only after about 20 seconds,
it seems to be a problem
ext-mode (console).
Correct. That should "rule out" non running software.
> X (or graphical user interface such as KDE) is only available at runlevel 2
> up
> to runlevel 6.
> So again: no matter wich user is logged in KDE - the virtual console blanks
> IF
> there
o runlevel 6.
So again: no matter wich user is logged in KDE - the virtual console blanks IF
there is another graphic-card resolution than the (automaticly choosen
1600x1200).
greetings
Herbert
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On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 05:58:38PM +0100, Herbert Schwarzer wrote:
>
> Following issue occurs (in both flavours Squeeze as well as Wheezy):
> Running amd64 KDE-Environment.
> It does not matter running nouveau-graphics-driver or nvidia-graphics-driver
> (the Debian way ...)
> If I switch from KDE
Following issue occurs (in both flavours Squeeze as well as Wheezy):
Running amd64 KDE-Environment.
It does not matter running nouveau-graphics-driver or nvidia-graphics-driver
(the Debian way ...)
If I switch from KDE-GUI (tty7) to virtual-consoles (tty1 .. tty6) and login
in text-mode --> afte
On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 20:45:33 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 07 aug 12, 09:47:11, Celejar wrote:
> >
> > They do - but the first quote in your message was Yaro's. I guess you
> > decided to respond to a quote of mine as cited in his email, instead of
> > responding directly to my email. In s
On Ma, 07 aug 12, 09:47:11, Celejar wrote:
>
> They do - but the first quote in your message was Yaro's. I guess you
> decided to respond to a quote of mine as cited in his email, instead of
> responding directly to my email. In such a case, I generally delete the
> first name in the chain, but I
On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 00:59:08 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 01 aug 12, 20:23:35, Celejar wrote:
> > On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:45:27 +0300
> > Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > > On Mi, 01 aug 12, 00:59:29, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> > > > On 07/31/2012 01:42 PM, Celejar wrote:
> > > > >On Fri, 20 Jul 20
On Mi, 01 aug 12, 20:23:35, Celejar wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:45:27 +0300
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> > On Mi, 01 aug 12, 00:59:29, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> > > On 07/31/2012 01:42 PM, Celejar wrote:
> > > >On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:30:50 +0300
> > > >Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>On Jo, 1
On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:45:27 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 01 aug 12, 00:59:29, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> > On 07/31/2012 01:42 PM, Celejar wrote:
> > >On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:30:50 +0300
> > >Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > >
> > >>On Jo, 19 iul 12, 22:50:25, Celejar wrote:
> > >>>Quite true - and co
On Mi, 01 aug 12, 00:59:29, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> On 07/31/2012 01:42 PM, Celejar wrote:
> >On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:30:50 +0300
> >Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> >>On Jo, 19 iul 12, 22:50:25, Celejar wrote:
> >>>Quite true - and completely irrelevant to my point. I don't deny that
> >>>money can be mad
On 07/31/2012 01:42 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:30:50 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 19 iul 12, 22:50:25, Celejar wrote:
Quite true - and completely irrelevant to my point. I don't deny that
money can be made with FLOSS, just that it's pointless to try to sell
copies of one'
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:16:58 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 20 iul 12, 04:29:05, Gary Dale wrote:
> > On 20/07/12 03:30 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > >On Jo, 19 iul 12, 22:50:25, Celejar wrote:
> > >>Quite true - and completely irrelevant to my point. I don't deny that
> > >>money can be ma
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 04:29:05 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
...
> As for Celejar's point about selling licenses - he's wants to make money
> only from direct sales. That's his problem. In every business you have
> to look for ways to make money. Direct sales is just one method and its
> a method that
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:30:50 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 19 iul 12, 22:50:25, Celejar wrote:
> >
> > Quite true - and completely irrelevant to my point. I don't deny that
> > money can be made with FLOSS, just that it's pointless to try to sell
> > copies of one's software if it's freel
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 17:39:12 +0200
gaffa wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:45:34 -0400
> Celejar wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:30:57 -0400
> > Gary Dale wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > Personally I think one of the biggest appeals of Debian (and of
> > > Linux in general) is the commitment
On Thursday 19 July 2012 04:45:34 Celejar wrote:
> > Debian users need to understand that attempts to encumber knowledge for
> > profit are inherently wrong.
>
> I don't wholly agree here. I have a very strong preference for FLOSS,
> for many reasons, but I fully respect the rights of others to dev
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:26:37 +1200
Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 03:20:03PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> > On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:08:58 +0300
> > Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > > On Jo, 19 iul 12, 01:17:49, Doug wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for the bandwidth, but I think the Linux
On Vi, 20 iul 12, 04:29:05, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 20/07/12 03:30 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >On Jo, 19 iul 12, 22:50:25, Celejar wrote:
> >>Quite true - and completely irrelevant to my point. I don't deny that
> >>money can be made with FLOSS, just that it's pointless to try to sell
> >>copies of
On 20/07/12 03:30 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 19 iul 12, 22:50:25, Celejar wrote:
Quite true - and completely irrelevant to my point. I don't deny that
money can be made with FLOSS, just that it's pointless to try to sell
copies of one's software if it's freely copyable. The examples you gi
On Jo, 19 iul 12, 22:50:25, Celejar wrote:
>
> Quite true - and completely irrelevant to my point. I don't deny that
> money can be made with FLOSS, just that it's pointless to try to sell
> copies of one's software if it's freely copyable. The examples you give
> are all of models other than the
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 03:20:03PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:08:58 +0300
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> > On Jo, 19 iul 12, 01:17:49, Doug wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry for the bandwidth, but I think the Linux user--I'm certainly
> > > one of them--needs to realize what real special
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:04:10 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
> On 19/07/12 03:20 PM, Celejar wrote:
> > On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:08:58 +0300
> > Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> >> On Jo, 19 iul 12, 01:17:49, Doug wrote:
> >>> Sorry for the bandwidth, but I think the Linux user--I'm certainly
> >>> one of them-
On 19/07/12 03:20 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:08:58 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 19 iul 12, 01:17:49, Doug wrote:
Sorry for the bandwidth, but I think the Linux user--I'm certainly
one of them--needs to realize what real specialized software is, and
what it costs to develo
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:28:46 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-07-19 at 09:08 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > Also, I don't have a problem with paying for specialized software
> > [snip] as long as they run natively on my platform of choice.
>
> +1 and plus, nobody should have compunctio
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:08:58 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 19 iul 12, 01:17:49, Doug wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for the bandwidth, but I think the Linux user--I'm certainly
> > one of them--needs to realize what real specialized software is, and
> > what it costs to develop, and why it's not fr
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 01:17:49 -0400
Doug wrote:
> On 07/18/2012 11:45 PM, Celejar wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:30:57 -0400
> > Gary Dale wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> >> Personally I think one of the biggest appeals of Debian (and of Linux in
> >> general) is the commitment to freedom. IP laws an
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:45:34 -0400
Celejar wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:30:57 -0400
> Gary Dale wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > Personally I think one of the biggest appeals of Debian (and of
> > Linux in general) is the commitment to freedom. IP laws and the
> > degree to which hardware vendors suppo
On Thu, 2012-07-19 at 09:38 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> Do two wrongs make a right?
No, I'm just kidding.
> I've got computer files dating back to 1990 on my server. A lot of it is
> in proprietary formats that there haven't been programs for in over a
> decade. These are my files that I am effec
On 19/07/12 02:28 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 2012-07-19 at 09:08 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Also, I don't have a problem with paying for specialized software
[snip] as long as they run natively on my platform of choice.
+1 and plus, nobody should have compunction when illegal using some
On Thu, 2012-07-19 at 09:08 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> Also, I don't have a problem with paying for specialized software
> [snip] as long as they run natively on my platform of choice.
+1 and plus, nobody should have compunction when illegal using some
software. I've got the privilege not to n
On Jo, 19 iul 12, 01:17:49, Doug wrote:
>
> Sorry for the bandwidth, but I think the Linux user--I'm certainly
> one of them--needs to realize what real specialized software is, and
> what it costs to develop, and why it's not free.
Please don't confuse free (beer) with free(dom). Also, I don't h
On 07/18/2012 11:45 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:30:57 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
...
Personally I think one of the biggest appeals of Debian (and of Linux in
general) is the commitment to freedom. IP laws and the degree to which
hardware vendors support freedom is relevant to purcha
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:30:57 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
...
> Personally I think one of the biggest appeals of Debian (and of Linux in
> general) is the commitment to freedom. IP laws and the degree to which
> hardware vendors support freedom is relevant to purchasing decisions.
I agree.
> Debi
On 18/07/12 05:32 PM, Rick Thomas wrote:
Hi folks,
While fascinating, this discussion has wandered seriously Off Topic. It's no longer
appropriate for "debian-user", I think. I'm not a list-guru. Is there a
debian list where it would be on-topic? If so, maybe we should take it there.
Enjoy
Hi folks,
While fascinating, this discussion has wandered seriously Off Topic. It's no
longer appropriate for "debian-user", I think. I'm not a list-guru. Is there
a debian list where it would be on-topic? If so, maybe we should take it there.
Enjoy!
Rick
On Jul 18, 2012, at 6:46 AM, Gary
On 18/07/12 08:35 AM, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:21:03AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
The original justification for patents was that the government
would protect your invention for a short period if you told the
world about how it works.
I thought that too, but ... :(
https:/
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:21:03AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> The original justification for patents was that the government
> would protect your invention for a short period if you told the
> world about how it works.
I thought that too, but ... :(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Monopoli
On 17/07/12 11:07 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:45:56 -0500
"Christofer C. Bell" wrote:
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Gary Dale wrote:
A company is not a person and cannot have rights. All it should have is the
obligation to obey laws and regulations affecting its operations -
On 17/07/12 10:45 PM, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Gary Dale wrote:
A company is not a person and cannot have rights. All it should have is the
obligation to obey laws and regulations affecting its operations - just as
an automobile, another construct, must conform
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:45:56 -0500
"Christofer C. Bell" wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Gary Dale wrote:
> >
> > A company is not a person and cannot have rights. All it should have is the
> > obligation to obey laws and regulations affecting its operations - just as
> > an automobile,
On 07/17/2012 10:45 PM, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Gary Dale wrote:
A company is not a person and cannot have rights. All it should have is the
obligation to obey laws and regulations affecting its operations - just as
an automobile, another construct, must confo
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Gary Dale wrote:
>
> A company is not a person and cannot have rights. All it should have is the
> obligation to obey laws and regulations affecting its operations - just as
> an automobile, another construct, must conform to all regulatory standards.
> The notion
On 17/07/12 05:36 AM, Slavko wrote:
Hi,
Dňa Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:29:47 -0400 Gary Dale
napísal:
The basic premise is that freedom cannot infringe on the rights of
others. The "freedom" software companies take to not open their drivers
infringes on our rights to control the hardware we buy.
My
On 17/07/12 08:16 AM, Sthu Deus wrote:
Good time of the day, Gary.
Thank You for Your time and answer.
You worte:
Unfortunately both vendors want to keep some of their "trade
secrets" secret, so the open source drivers will never be the same as
That's why we have scarcely buy new ones at lea
Good time of the day, Slavko.
You worte:
> "Our rights to control the hardware we buy must do not infringe the
> company's rights to secret their business secrets."
I think You are mixing up two things here: hardware secrets (that You
pay for) and the business' ones (that does not touch You).
Good time of the day, Gary.
Thank You for Your time and answer.
You worte:
> Unfortunately both vendors want to keep some of their "trade
> secrets" secret, so the open source drivers will never be the same as
That's why we have scarcely buy new ones at least.
> the closed source ones. Howev
Hi,
Dňa Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:29:47 -0400 Gary Dale
napísal:
> The basic premise is that freedom cannot infringe on the rights of
> others. The "freedom" software companies take to not open their drivers
> infringes on our rights to control the hardware we buy.
My premise is: "One person's free
On 16/07/12 11:10 AM, Slavko wrote:
Ahoj,
Dňa Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:50:38 -0400 Gary Dale
napísal:
AMD/ATI also make closed source drivers. Which manufacturer has the
faster cards is largely dependent on when you buy. They usually trade
places with each new generation of product.
I know. Both p
Ahoj,
Dňa Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:50:38 -0400 Gary Dale
napísal:
> AMD/ATI also make closed source drivers. Which manufacturer has the
> faster cards is largely dependent on when you buy. They usually trade
> places with each new generation of product.
I know. Both proprietary drivers have they o
On 16/07/12 05:04 AM, Slavko wrote:
Hi,
Dňa Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:04:44 +0700 Sthu Deus
napísal:
I can say absolutely opposite - ATI cards worked just fine for me w/
3D acceleration from the free drivers (when the models support was
already there).
The mentioned are my bad experiences, which ca
Hi,
Dňa Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:04:44 +0700 Sthu Deus
napísal:
> I can say absolutely opposite - ATI cards worked just fine for me w/
> 3D acceleration from the free drivers (when the models support was
> already there).
The mentioned are my bad experiences, which can be depended on some
exact card
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