On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 05:00:27PM -0400, Hal Vaughan was
heard to say:
> Also, by the time I started using Java, I had learned that many times
> when I write something, I'm revisiting later and have forgotten it, so
> making sure my Javadoc comments were clear enough that I wouldn't have
>
>Given the ghastliness of maintaining Perl code
I've had to maintain perl code at work, so you have my sympathies.
But in Perl's defense, it's not a necessary characteristic of Perl to
be hard to maintain. It's just the inherent flexibility of the
language that makes it easier to write "Write On
Thus spoke Master Foo:
>Uncommented code can be a nightmare in ANY language!
and Nubi was enlightened.
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On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:30:33AM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote:
Hi,
2009/6/25 明覺 :
I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
debian guys, so I leave this m
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:30:33AM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote:
> Hi,
> 2009/6/25 明覺 :
> > I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
> > anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
> > debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
> > at
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 07:08:34AM -0500, Allen Meyers wrote:
> I have not followed this thread and getting in only at the end but it
> caught my attention simply because I left Ubuntu for the very same
> reason, but my ire was directed towards the idiots not the experienced
> users.
> I have tried
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Daryl Styrk wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:26:25AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
>> I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
>> anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
>> debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debi
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:26:25AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
> I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
> anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
> debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
> attraction to me anymore, I will stop using i
Hi,
2009/6/25 明覺 :
> I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
> anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
> debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
> attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now.
> As I have decalared
明覺 wrote:
> I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
> anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
> debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
> attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now.
> As I have decalared, I will
明覺 wrote:
> As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and applications by a
> "Only One Programming Lanuguage" way.
> Good bye! :)
Good luck!
It really is a shame that apparently no one stepped in to help you
reprogram a great part of the debian archives in c/c++. To some
estimations that's jus
Am 2009-06-25 04:26:53, schrieb Oliver Schneider:
> > As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and applications by a
> > "Only One Programming Lanuguage" way.
> However, I hope the one language isn't assembler. I really can't
> imagine shell scripting that way - well, if you take "Only One
> Pro
> As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and applications by a
> "Only One Programming Lanuguage" way.
However, I hope the one language isn't assembler. I really can't imagine shell
scripting that way - well, if you take "Only One Programming Lanuguage" serious
that is ... ;)
> Good bye! :)
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Adriano
Trentini wrote:
> Goodbye, Mr. Shi.
> However, I always received many help from debian users.
>
> --- Em qua, 24/6/09, 明覺 escreveu:
>
> De: 明覺
> Assunto: Goodbye debian
> Para: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Data: Quarta-feira,
Goodbye, Mr. Shi.
However, I always received many help from debian users.
--- Em qua, 24/6/09, 明覺 escreveu:
De: 明覺
Assunto: Goodbye debian
Para: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Data: Quarta-feira, 24 de Junho de 2009, 21:26
I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
anymore
2009/6/24 明覺 :
> I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
> anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
> debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
> attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now.
> As I have decalared, I
I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now.
As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 01:21:50PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Yuriy Kuznetsov wrote:
> > This link appeared on gmail page. Kind of Micro$oft about Micro$oft
> > propaganda. Nice one ;o)
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/ireland/getthefacts/default.mspx
>
> And I knew for sure: that airlin
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Yuriy Kuznetsov wrote:
> This link appeared on gmail page. Kind of Micro$oft about Micro$oft
> propaganda. Nice one ;o)
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/ireland/getthefacts/default.mspx
And I knew for sure: that airline went bankrupt...
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 07:15:14PM +0100, Dan H. wrote:
> I am on "my own" machine and I am able to write to local drives. I've
> successfully installed Opera, but I can't install Openoffice (because
> that requires root -- oops, "administrator" privileges) nor cygqin
> (because its can't go throu
actually opera does have tabs (since before firefox) and does have a wand
which remembers passwords. Before firefox, i used it as
the best alternate to explorer when I have to use a windows machine. But why
not load firefox? If you got opera on, firefox should be doable. If loading
is an issue, you
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 07:15:14PM +0100, Dan H. wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:57:30AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Actually, if he's got his own machine, then he can install the
> > portableapps applications locally, without a flash drive. It's much
> > faster that way, in fact, at the unive
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 07:18:38AM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> Coporate IT is driven by sweetheart deals from suppliers to IT
> management. It is full of fiefdoms and "not invented here" syndromes.
> It is a meca to the power hungry and the control freaks. It has little
> to do with helping th
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:57:30AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Actually, if he's got his own machine, then he can install the
> portableapps applications locally, without a flash drive. It's much
> faster that way, in fact, at the university I copy portable firefox to
> the machine I'm sitting at an
On 27/02/2008, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Of course I read Dilbert. And I am full aware of the corporate IT
> > environment. But I'm still 30-young and think that I can change the
> > world by trying. I'm so naive that I encourage others to do the same.
> > I know that I'm doo
Dan H. wrote:
I know cygwin, and it is on my to-be-installed list. I can't live
without find and grep and xargs and... well, a lot of good grep will
do me in a world full of Word documents.. ;-)
There was a .DOC to text filter prog, Antiword that could be used in a
pipe with grep ;)
--
Jami
* Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Feb 26 08:00 -0600]:
> Of course I read Dilbert. And I am full aware of the corporate IT
> environment. But I'm still 30-young and think that I can change the
> world by trying. I'm so naive that I encourage others to do the same.
> I know that I'm doomed to
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:22:31AM -0600, Chuck Rhode wrote:
> By my count that six arguments anti to two pro. IT wins!
...in the context of duplicating processes which are mission-critical
and/or changing the location of sensitive data.
Most of those anti arguments don't really apply to such th
Dotan Cohen wrote this on Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 02:53:51PM +0200. My
reply is below.
> If using a portable app makes no permanent changes to the machine,
> why should it not be allowed?
This is the old, old End-User Programming argument, isn't it?
... so let's say you are a clerk (flunky) who kn
On 26/02/2008, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
> *** Major snip ***
>
> > I'm setting an example.
>
>
> Let's not break your arm pattin' yourself on the back.
>
> More people then you think are doing the same thing you claim to be
> doing - thus, you are NOT setting an ex
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 08:34:23AM -0600, Chris wrote:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
> *** Major snip ***
> >I'm setting an example.
>
> Let's not break your arm pattin' yourself on the back.
>
> More people then you think are doing the same thing you claim to be
> doing - thus, you are NOT setting an ex
On 26/02/2008, Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 03:54:06PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >
> > My attitude has gotten my university and my local green club to send
> > documents in PDF instead of Word, and I write to sites that do not
> > display prop
Dotan Cohen wrote:
On 26/02/2008, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Additionally, they can see that running these programs are important
> to the user. Remember, IT is there to HELP the user do what he needs,
> not prevent him from doing what he needs.
In a perfect world, perhaps.
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 03:54:06PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
[...]
>
> My attitude has gotten my university and my local green club to send
> documents in PDF instead of Word, and I write to sites that do not
> display properly in Firefox. I write to software houses (Adobe)
> requesting they port
On Tuesday 26 February 2008 06:38:31 am Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Coporate IT is driven by sweetheart deals from suppliers to IT
> > management. It is full of fiefdoms and "not invented here" syndromes.
> > It is
Dotan Cohen wrote:
*** Major snip ***
I'm setting an example.
Let's not break your arm pattin' yourself on the back.
More people then you think are doing the same thing you claim to be
doing - thus, you are NOT setting an example.
You're not that important to claim such a remark/comment.
On 26/02/2008, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Additionally, they can see that running these programs are important
> > to the user. Remember, IT is there to HELP the user do what he needs,
> > not prevent him from doing what he needs.
>
> In a perfect world, perhaps. In real life,
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Coporate IT is driven by sweetheart deals from suppliers to IT
> management. It is full of fiefdoms and "not invented here" syndromes.
> It is a meca to the power hungry and the control freaks. It has little
> to do
* Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Feb 26 06:59 -0600]:
> On 26/02/2008, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Actually, if he's got his own machine, then he can install the
> > > portableapps applications locally, without a flash drive. It's much
> > > faster that way, in fact, at
On 26/02/2008, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Actually, if he's got his own machine, then he can install the
> > portableapps applications locally, without a flash drive. It's much
> > faster that way, in fact, at the university I copy portable firefox to
> > the machine I'm sitti
* Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Feb 25 19:03 -0600]:
> Actually, if he's got his own machine, then he can install the
> portableapps applications locally, without a flash drive. It's much
> faster that way, in fact, at the university I copy portable firefox to
> the machine I'm sitting at
>
> I can't live without find and grep and xargs and ...
> well, a lot of good grep will do me in a world
> full of Word documents.. ;-)
Haven't tried Windows Grep myself,
but it might at least be worth a look
http://www.wingrep.com/
--
Stanley C. Kitching
Human Being
Dan H. wrote:
Well, I guess the subject caught your attention after all.
Of course I'm not saying goodbye to Debian, at least not voluntarily and
certainly not at home. But I just changed jobs, and so moved from a self-
administered Debian box to a locked-up, preinstalled all-M$ Dell thing.
M$ O
On 25/02/2008, Elf & Dmitryi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Portable Apps allow running everything off the flash drive and have the
> app/user data saved on the flash drive, too. So basically it's what it
> says - e. g. Firefox is portable on a flash drive with all the
> bookmarks, history and set
Dan H. wrote:
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 09:15:47PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
Remember everything you've noted when the Microsofties remind you that
Linux "is not ready for the desktop".
I must admit though that I was pretty annoyed when my wife wanted to use
sound on our home Debian box and
This link appeared on gmail page. Kind of Micro$oft about Micro$oft
propaganda. Nice one ;o)
http://www.microsoft.com/ireland/getthefacts/default.mspx
Portable Apps allow running everything off the flash drive and have the
app/user data saved on the flash drive, too. So basically it's what it
says - e. g. Firefox is portable on a flash drive with all the
bookmarks, history and settings. A properly set-up flash drive with all
the portable apps doe
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 09:15:47PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> Remember everything you've noted when the Microsofties remind you that
> Linux "is not ready for the desktop".
I must admit though that I was pretty annoyed when my wife wanted to use
sound on our home Debian box and it took me qui
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 07:15:27AM +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> Well, you have just begun. Wait till you experience the real horrors of
> windows, aka viruses, spyware, adware, etc, though with your unix like
> browsing habits, you may be less prone to be fooled by malware sites.
Yeah, ther
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 04:18:03PM -0600, Elf & Dmitryi wrote:
> Here's a couple things...
>
> http://mcnlive.org/ - MCN Live, a live CD that can also be installed on
> a flash drive. There's Knoppix, too. http://www.knopper.de
>
> http://www.sysresccd.org/ - another live CD that can edit Windows
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:22:58PM +0100, Misko wrote:
> Now that MS is going open source (it was on evening national TV news in my
> country) things are surely going to be better :)
> As mentioned news was not very clear can somebody explain what did
> MS actually made available? Is it source code
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On 02/25/08 05:22, Misko wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 04:12:31PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>>> Boy, what a piece of crap. It boggles the mind. This is how the world's
>>> office workers get their work done? Or do they?
>> It seems implausible,
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 04:12:31PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> > Boy, what a piece of crap. It boggles the mind. This is how the world's
> > office workers get their work done? Or do they?
>
> It seems implausible, doesn't it?
> I used to be fairly efficent on Windows, but it took a lot of twe
* Dan H. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Feb 24 15:57 -0600]:
> WTF? Am I missing something here?
Nope. You're right on the mark.
Remember everything you've noted when the Microsofties remind you that
Linux "is not ready for the desktop".
- Nate >>
P.S. Sounds like you went to work for the company I
Dan H. wrote:
Well, I guess the subject caught your attention after all.
Of course I'm not saying goodbye to Debian, at least not voluntarily and
certainly not at home. But I just changed jobs, and so moved from a self-
administered Debian box to a locked-up, preinstalled all-M$ Dell thing.
M$ O
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Dan H. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I guess the subject caught your attention after all.
>
> Of course I'm not saying goodbye to Debian, at least not voluntarily and
> certainly not at home. But I just changed jobs, and so moved from a self-
> administered
Here's a couple things...
http://mcnlive.org/ - MCN Live, a live CD that can also be installed on
a flash drive. There's Knoppix, too. http://www.knopper.de
http://www.sysresccd.org/ - another live CD that can edit Windows NT
passwords.
http://portableapps.com/ has a collection of Firefox, Filez
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:52:00PM +0100, Dan H. wrote:
> Well, I guess the subject caught your attention after all.
>
> Of course I'm not saying goodbye to Debian, at least not voluntarily and
> certainly not at home. But I just changed jobs, and so moved from a self-
> administered Debian box t
Well, I guess the subject caught your attention after all.
Of course I'm not saying goodbye to Debian, at least not voluntarily and
certainly not at home. But I just changed jobs, and so moved from a self-
administered Debian box to a locked-up, preinstalled all-M$ Dell thing.
M$ Office, M$IE, Lot
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