Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-28 Thread Jonathan Dowland
(CCed to original poster due to the massive delay in posting a reply... apologies if this is annoying) On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 12:53:11AM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:31:35 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > >getting a .o kernel module for your NIC into the debian install pr

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-28 Thread Jonathan Dowland
(CCed to the bemused one because of the massive delay in posting a reply) On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 11:24:40AM +, John Peter wrote: > Mark Healey wrote: > > I then made and make installed the module. Now I need to know what > > lines I have to add to what files to get the module working. > We

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote: Got the networking going. WooHoo. Excellent. Now I'm going to spend some time watching cartoons and if a few days start asking a bunch of questions to try to get my X working. Or you could let the downloading occur while you're watching cartoons. Edit /etc/apt/sources.list

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Op vr 14-11-2003, om 00:44 schreef Mark Healey: > Got the networking going. WooHoo. > > Now I'm going to spend some time watching cartoons and if a few days > start asking a bunch of questions to try to get my X working. > > One minor question set. > > 1) The backspace key doesn't work in vi.

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread Mark Healey
Got the networking going. WooHoo. Now I'm going to spend some time watching cartoons and if a few days start asking a bunch of questions to try to get my X working. One minor question set. 1) The backspace key doesn't work in vi. Is this some kind of terminal settings problem or an nvi problem

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote: That's the problem. My nic isn't listed. The Tigon3 is listed but not the 4401. I couldn't find out how to include a module that isn't listed but for which one has the source. Is there any significant reason to prefer having it in the kernel as opposed to just having it instal

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 01:41:46PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:56:20 -0800 (PST), Mark Healey wrote: > >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:17:43 -0600, Kent West wrote: > >Is there any significant reason to prefer having it in the kernel as > >opposed to just having it installed at boot

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread Mark Healey
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:56:20 -0800 (PST), Mark Healey wrote: >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:17:43 -0600, Kent West wrote: > >>Mark Healey wrote: >> >>>After not getting any instructions on how to compile a module that >>>didn't come with the source into a kernel I gave up and decided to >>>just do the ni

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread Mark Healey
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:17:43 -0600, Kent West wrote: >Mark Healey wrote: > >>After not getting any instructions on how to compile a module that >>didn't come with the source into a kernel I gave up and decided to >>just do the nic module as installable. >> >>Since I had the source for the new kern

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote: After not getting any instructions on how to compile a module that didn't come with the source into a kernel I gave up and decided to just do the nic module as installable. Since I had the source for the new kernel I went ahead and compiled it by Kents 10 step list. I left the

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread John Peter
Mark Healey wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:31:35 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 10:45:09PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: I recieved many suggestions to remedy the problem, non of them easy. I've decided to try to recompile the latest kernel. I figure that it would be

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread Mark Healey
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:31:35 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 10:45:09PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: > >> I recieved many suggestions to remedy the problem, non of them easy. >> >> I've decided to try to recompile the latest kernel. I figure that it >> would be nice to have t

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 10:45:09PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: > I recieved many suggestions to remedy the problem, non of them easy. > > I've decided to try to recompile the latest kernel. I figure that it > would be nice to have the latest kernel with support for only the > hardware I have (or

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-13 Thread Mark Healey
After not getting any instructions on how to compile a module that didn't come with the source into a kernel I gave up and decided to just do the nic module as installable. Since I had the source for the new kernel I went ahead and compiled it by Kents 10 step list. I left the things I didn't und

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-07 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 03:54:27PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:16:28 -0800, Cam Ellison wrote: > > >* Mark Healey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> > >> > > > >> I've managed to get the tarball for 2.4.22 which is what kernel.org > >> says is the latest stable one. > >> > >Seri

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-07 Thread ScruLoose
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 03:54:27PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:16:28 -0800, Cam Ellison wrote: > >* Mark Healey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > >> I've managed to get the tarball for 2.4.22 which is what kernel.org > >> says is the latest stable one. > >> > >Seriously -- get

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-07 Thread Mark Healey
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:16:28 -0800, Cam Ellison wrote: >* Mark Healey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> >> > >> I've managed to get the tarball for 2.4.22 which is what kernel.org >> says is the latest stable one. >> >Seriously -- get kernel-source-2.4.22. I fought with the stock kernel >for weeks, an

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-07 Thread ScruLoose
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 12:11:37AM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: > On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 21:34:57 -0600, Kent West wrote: > >I would suggest (modestly?) that you read "Kent's 10-Step Procedure to > >Compiling a Debian Kernel", which is the bottom section of "README.gz" > >in /usr/share/doc/kernel-packag

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-07 Thread Cam Ellison
* Mark Healey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > I've managed to get the tarball for 2.4.22 which is what kernel.org > says is the latest stable one. > Seriously -- get kernel-source-2.4.22. I fought with the stock kernel for weeks, and could not get it to work. It would compile, but hang part

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-07 Thread Christian Schnobrich
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 09:11, Mark Healey wrote: > On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 21:34:57 -0600, Kent West wrote: > > >Mark Healey wrote: > >> On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:09:24 -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > >> > >> First off. I am doing this because none of the kernels on the cds > >> support my nic. Consequently, a

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-07 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 21:34:57 -0600, Kent West wrote: This is more out of curiosity than anything else but is there a way to check what features are incorperated into a running kernel. Sort of. In /boot you should have a config file that matches your kernel. For example, I'm c

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-07 Thread Nick Hastings
Hi Mark, * Mark Healey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031107 18:32]: > On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 21:34:57 -0600, Kent West wrote: > > >I would suggest (modestly?) that you read "Kent's 10-Step Procedure to > >Compiling a Debian Kernel", which is the bottom section of "README.gz" > >in /usr/share/doc/kernel-pa

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-07 Thread Mark Healey
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 21:34:57 -0600, Kent West wrote: >Mark Healey wrote: >> On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:09:24 -0500, ScruLoose wrote: >> >> First off. I am doing this because none of the kernels on the cds >> support my nic. Consequently, any suggestions that involve using >> apt-get isn't really help

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-06 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote: On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:09:24 -0500, ScruLoose wrote: First off. I am doing this because none of the kernels on the cds support my nic. Consequently, any suggestions that involve using apt-get show that the suggestor is a moron who doesn't pay attention. Whereas I might agree th

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-06 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 04:51:54PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: > On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:09:24 -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > > First off. I am doing this because none of the kernels on the cds > support my nic. Consequently, any suggestions that involve using > apt-get show that the suggestor is a moron

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-06 Thread Mark Healey
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:09:24 -0500, ScruLoose wrote: First off. I am doing this because none of the kernels on the cds support my nic. Consequently, any suggestions that involve using apt-get show that the suggestor is a moron who doesn't pay attention. Also, my X isn't working either so the same

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-06 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 12:23:35AM -0600, Kent West wrote: > Mark Healey wrote: > > >Exactly what is a kernel-image? > > A kernel-image is a pre-compiled kernel; it's the base, the core, of > Debian GNU/Linux (and other Linux-based operating systems). > > This is in contrast to a kernel source t

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 23:45:18 -0600, Kent West wrote: Anyway I believe I should get kernel version 2.4.22. That's the latest stable one, right? Is there a .deb package (and where is it) or should I just get the .tar.bz2 one from kernel.org? Ah, sorry. In that case, go get the

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Mark Healey
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 23:45:18 -0600, Kent West wrote: >Mark Healey wrote: > >>On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:00:11 -0600, Kent West wrote: >> >> Anyway I believe I should get kernel version 2.4.22. That's the latest stable one, right? Is there a .deb package (and where is it) or should I

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:00:11 -0600, Kent West wrote: Anyway I believe I should get kernel version 2.4.22. That's the latest stable one, right? Is there a .deb package (and where is it) or should I just get the .tar.bz2 one from kernel.org? I did find a HOWTO but it is pretty

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Mark Healey
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:00:11 -0600, Kent West wrote: >Mark Healey wrote: >> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:47:46 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> >> >>>On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 at 06:35 GMT, Mark Healey penned: >>> On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:52:38 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >Mame cab? What

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote: On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:47:46 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 at 06:35 GMT, Mark Healey penned: On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:52:38 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: Mame cab? What is this beast? An arcade style video game cabinet. Mame is an emublator of old arcad

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 at 21:18 GMT, Mark Healey penned: > > With Redhat moving towards their Fedora scheme I figure that a move to > Debian is the best way to avoid any more surprises from another > comercial vendor. I've also noticed that most distros that are built > upon another are built upon D

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Mark Healey
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:56:19 -0600, Kent West wrote: >Mark Healey wrote: >> >> >>>I still think that the $15 NIC would be the easiest. >> >> >> Car has no accelerator cable. > >Wedge a screwdriver in the accelerator linkage at the carburetor Carbuwhater? This is a 32 year old car and it has EFI

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Mark Healey
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:47:46 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 at 06:35 GMT, Mark Healey penned: >> On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:52:38 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> >>>Mame cab? What is this beast? >> >> An arcade style video game cabinet. Mame is an emublator of old >> arcade ga

OT: Was: Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 08:56, Kent West wrote: Mark Healey wrote: I still think that the $15 NIC would be the easiest. Car has no accelerator cable. Wedge a screwdriver in the accelerator linkage at the carburetor to Boy, you're an old geezer, aren't you? Do any cars sold

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 at 06:35 GMT, Mark Healey penned: > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:52:38 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > >>Mame cab? What is this beast? > > An arcade style video game cabinet. Mame is an emublator of old > arcade games. > > http://www.arcadecontrols.com/arcade.htm http://www.mame

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 08:56, Kent West wrote: > Mark Healey wrote: > > > > > >>I still think that the $15 NIC would be the easiest. > > > > > > Car has no accelerator cable. > > Wedge a screwdriver in the accelerator linkage at the carburetor to Boy, you're an old geezer, aren't you? Do any

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote: I still think that the $15 NIC would be the easiest. Car has no accelerator cable. Wedge a screwdriver in the accelerator linkage at the carburetor to bring the engine to about 8200rpm, and with a little judicious use of the gear shift (manual easiest, but automatic works t

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-04 Thread Mark Healey
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:52:38 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >[Snipping most] > >On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 06:45 GMT, Mark Healey penned: >> >> I've decided to try to recompile the latest kernel. I figure that it >> would be nice to have the latest kernel with support for only the >> hardware I have

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-04 Thread ScruLoose
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:52:38AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 06:45 GMT, Mark Healey penned: > > > > I've decided to try to recompile the latest kernel. I figure that it > > would be nice to have the latest kernel with support for only the > > hardware I have (or thi

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-04 Thread Richard Lyons
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 18:52, Monique Y. Herman wrote: [...] > Knoppix's ability to detect stuff is nothing short of amazing to me. [...] > And did I mention Knoppix is sweet? Just love that Knoppix CD. Take it everywhere with me... Come to think of it, I never have to use it, so it obvious

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-04 Thread Monique Y. Herman
[Snipping most] On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 06:45 GMT, Mark Healey penned: > > I've decided to try to recompile the latest kernel. I figure that it > would be nice to have the latest kernel with support for only the > hardware I have (or think I might add in the future) and none for what > I won't ev

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-04 Thread Ken Irving
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 10:45:09PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: > Many of you have read my saga of trying to install Debian and > witnessed my frustration. > > The main problem is that my onboard nic isn't supported by the kernel > on the CD and there is no module for it installed either. > > This l

Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-03 Thread Mark Healey
Many of you have read my saga of trying to install Debian and witnessed my frustration. The main problem is that my onboard nic isn't supported by the kernel on the CD and there is no module for it installed either. This left me with no networking so I couldn't use any of the clever debian instal