Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 16 August 2014 23:33:54 Charlie wrote: > That's also what I thought? But I assume this thread is pertaining to > the person who installs the software through the installer. Rather than > just a bare bones Debian without any GUI that will boot. Then through > CLI just install the softwar

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 21:32:23 +0100 Lisi Reisz sent: > > Here's an idea: Why not give users a choice (if they want it) after > > they have installed the OS? Or even before? Installation of a > > desktop environment shouldn't be obligatory. > > It isn't. > > Lisi That's also what I thought? But

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Joe
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:57:17 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 21:32:23 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Saturday 16 August 2014 20:24:31 Brian wrote: > > > On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 14:14:01 -0400, John Holland wrote: > > > > Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with reasonable > > >

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Brian
On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 21:32:23 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 16 August 2014 20:24:31 Brian wrote: > > On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 14:14:01 -0400, John Holland wrote: > > > Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with reasonable hardware > > > requirements. It'd be nice to have it as an option

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Brian
On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 17:27:27 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > On 16/08/14 02:56 PM, Brian wrote: > >On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 19:01:40 +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > > >>On 16/08/14 18:28, Gary Dale wrote: > >>>The installer, to my way of thinking, should either go with the most > >>>popular choice or

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Gary Dale
On 16/08/14 02:56 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 19:01:40 +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 16/08/14 18:28, Gary Dale wrote: The installer, to my way of thinking, should either go with the most popular choice or give you the choice of desktop environments as part of the install proces

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 16 August 2014 20:24:31 Brian wrote: > On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 14:14:01 -0400, John Holland wrote: > > Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with reasonable hardware > > requirements. It'd be nice to have it as an option in the installer. > > fvwm is wonderful, but not likely to make i

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 16 August 2014 19:14:01 John Holland wrote: > Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with reasonable hardware > requirements. It'd be nice to have it as an option in the installer. Sorry, I left that one out. It was in the etc.! I knew that I had not got a complete list. But the

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 16 August 2014 18:01:40 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Anyway, I think the installer should offer *all* the DEs. *All*, including Mate and Cinnamon and Trinity and Unity, in addition to Gnome, KDE, LXDE, Xfce, and . etc. ?? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@list

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Brian
On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 14:14:01 -0400, John Holland wrote: > Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with reasonable hardware > requirements. It'd be nice to have it as an option in the installer. fvwm is wonderful, but not likely to make it into d-i. Back in 1996 it was a default (on Red Hat at

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Brian
On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 19:01:40 +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 16/08/14 18:28, Gary Dale wrote: > > > > The installer, to my way of thinking, should either go with the most > > popular choice or give you the choice of desktop environments as part of > > the install process. > > > I'm fully

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread John Holland
Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with reasonable hardware requirements. It'd be nice to have it as an option in the installer. On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:03:54 -0400 (EDT), Michael Biebl wrote: > > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:10

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Martin Read
On 16/08/14 17:49, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:10 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: My main objection to GNOME as the default desktop environment is that it *requires* 3D graphics acceleration from the X driver, something which is not available from all drivers. (For example, t

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Joe
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:49:23 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:10 -0400 (EDT) > Stephen Powell wrote: > > > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:56:53 -0400 (EDT), Stephen L. Novak wrote: > > > > > > I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default > > > interface for jess

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:03:54 -0400 (EDT), Michael Biebl wrote: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:10 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> My main objection to GNOME as the default desktop environment is >> that it *requires* 3D graphics acceleration from the X driver, >> ... > > Not quite true. On g

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 16.08.2014 17:00, schrieb Stephen Powell: > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:56:53 -0400 (EDT), Stephen L. Novak wrote: >> >> I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default >> interface for jessie too. Also, I would vote change the default >> highlighter for some of the default menus i

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 16/08/14 18:28, Gary Dale wrote: > I've never been a fan of Gnome although this stems mainly from my > preference for Konqueror and Dolphin as file managers. They both have > options that I find very helpful, like actually listing the files you > are about to delete instead of just telling you h

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:10 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:56:53 -0400 (EDT), Stephen L. Novak wrote: > > > > I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default > > interface for jessie too. Also, I would vote change the default > > highlighter for so

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Gary Dale
On 16/08/14 11:00 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:56:53 -0400 (EDT), Stephen L. Novak wrote: I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default interface for jessie too. Also, I would vote change the default highlighter for some of the default menus in the new Xf

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:56:53 -0400 (EDT), Stephen L. Novak wrote: > > I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default > interface for jessie too. Also, I would vote change the default > highlighter for some of the default menus in the new Xfce to a brighter > color. Thanks for

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:56:53PM -0400, Stephen L. Novak wrote: > > > I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default > interface for jessie too. Your vote has no affect whatsoever on what the default DE will be. The only way you can influence the decision is to install popu

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-15 Thread Stephen L. Novak
I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default interface for jessie too. Also, I would vote change the default highlighter for some of the default menus in the new Xfce to a brighter color. Thanks for all the work on Wheezy. Steve -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-