Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 12:22:57PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 29 December 2013 00:38:30 Weaver wrote: > > On Sat, December 28, 2013 3:49 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote: [..] > > > It is perfectly possible to lose all or part of one's memory > > > without an accident. All it requires is old age and

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 12:22 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 29 December 2013 00:38:30 Weaver wrote: > > On Sat, December 28, 2013 3:49 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Saturday 28 December 2013 11:56:37 Chris Bannister wrote: > > >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 02:43:11PM +0400, Reco wrote: > > >> >

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 29 December 2013 00:38:30 Weaver wrote: > On Sat, December 28, 2013 3:49 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Saturday 28 December 2013 11:56:37 Chris Bannister wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 02:43:11PM +0400, Reco wrote: > >> > And storing banking information outside someone's head is > >>

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-28 Thread Weaver
On Sat, December 28, 2013 3:49 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 28 December 2013 11:56:37 Chris Bannister wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 02:43:11PM +0400, Reco wrote: >> > And storing banking information outside someone's head is wrong >> > on so many levels that I don't even know where to s

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 28 December 2013 11:56:37 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 02:43:11PM +0400, Reco wrote: > > And storing banking information outside someone's head is wrong > > on so many levels that I don't even know where to start ;) > > If you have a nasty accident and lose parts of

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-12-28 at 23:13 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 12/28/13, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 02:43:11PM +0400, Reco wrote: > >> And storing banking information outside someone's head is wrong on so > >> many levels that I don't even know where to start ;) > > > > If

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 00:56 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 02:43:11PM +0400, Reco wrote: > > And storing banking information outside someone's head is wrong on so > > many levels that I don't even know where to start ;) > > If you have a nasty accident and lose parts of yo

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-28 Thread Reco
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 00:56:37 +1300 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 02:43:11PM +0400, Reco wrote: > > And storing banking information outside someone's head is wrong on so > > many levels that I don't even know where to start ;) > > If you have a nasty accident and lose parts of

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-28 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/28/13, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 02:43:11PM +0400, Reco wrote: >> And storing banking information outside someone's head is wrong on so >> many levels that I don't even know where to start ;) > > If you have a nasty accident and lose parts of your memory is a damn > go

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 02:43:11PM +0400, Reco wrote: > And storing banking information outside someone's head is wrong on so > many levels that I don't even know where to start ;) If you have a nasty accident and lose parts of your memory is a damn good reason, and that is just as a start! :) --

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-28 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 21:01:31 +1100 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 12/25/13, Reco wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:51:25 +0100 > > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 15:40 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> > On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 18:04 +0400, Reco wrote: > >> > > I wrote "one r

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-28 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/25/13, Reco wrote: > On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:51:25 +0100 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 15:40 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> > On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 18:04 +0400, Reco wrote: >> > > I wrote "one runs two instances of firefox with different profiles To friends stuck in propri

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-27 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/12/13 14:08, Joel Rees wrote: > On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Reco wrote: >> Hi. >> >> On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 13:29:28 +0100 >> Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >>> This would lead to "Error: cannot open display: :0.0". >>> Sure, $ xhost +; sudo -u [...] does the trick, >> >> No, if you do it smart

Re: sudo and firefox (was: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.)

2013-12-25 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 08:33:12 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2013-12-25 at 08:28 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Wed, 2013-12-25 at 11:05 +0400, Reco wrote: > > > And that assumes you're keeping browsing history. Why people are doin' > > > this is something that I can never understand

Re: sudo and firefox (was: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.)

2013-12-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-12-25 at 08:28 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2013-12-25 at 11:05 +0400, Reco wrote: > > And that assumes you're keeping browsing history. Why people are doin' > > this is something that I can never understand. > > Ok, in this case I recommend to use > > [rocketmouse@archlinux

Re: sudo and firefox (was: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.)

2013-12-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-12-25 at 11:05 +0400, Reco wrote: > And that assumes you're keeping browsing history. Why people are doin' > this is something that I can never understand. Ok, in this case I recommend to use [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Q tor-browser-en tor-browser-en 3.5-1 For my Debian and

Re: sudo and firefox (was: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.)

2013-12-24 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 07:33:53 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2013-12-25 at 10:15 +0400, Reco wrote: > > b) That sneaky sandbox user can override firefox with something > > like /home/user9-boxed/bin/firefox, which is bad. > > Here we are again ;). > > Using a profile, supported by fir

Re: sudo and firefox (was: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.)

2013-12-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-12-25 at 10:15 +0400, Reco wrote: > b) That sneaky sandbox user can override firefox with something > like /home/user9-boxed/bin/firefox, which is bad. Here we are again ;). Using a profile, supported by firefox, is the easiest and securest way. I only use another user, instead of a

Re: sudo and firefox (was: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.)

2013-12-24 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 12:08:01 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: > On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 13:29:28 +0100 > > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > >> This would lead to "Error: cannot open display: :0.0". > >> Sure, $ xhost +; sudo -u [...] does the trick

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Joel Rees
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 13:29:28 +0100 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> This would lead to "Error: cannot open display: :0.0". >> Sure, $ xhost +; sudo -u [...] does the trick, > > No, if you do it smart way, such as (in .xsessionrc): > > xauth extrac

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Reco
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:51:25 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 15:40 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 18:04 +0400, Reco wrote: > > > I wrote "one runs two instances of firefox with different profiles > > > > and I replied that you can start your default browse

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 15:40 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 18:04 +0400, Reco wrote: > > I wrote "one runs two instances of firefox with different profiles > > and I replied that you can start your default browser with a profile > too. The issue you pointed out is the same for t

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 18:04 +0400, Reco wrote: > I wrote "one runs two instances of firefox with different profiles and I replied that you can start your default browser with a profile too. The issue you pointed out is the same for the profile approach and another user account approach. If you wan

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Reco
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 14:54:35 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > A last note, before I go off-line for holidays. > > A user is allowed to add a profile, but a user needs to ask the admin to > add a new user ;). Ok, I've read all your contribution to the thread. Let us start with something simple. You'

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
A last note, before I go off-line for holidays. A user is allowed to add a profile, but a user needs to ask the admin to add a new user ;). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: ht

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> > Sudo can be configured for passwordless access, but that's not the > > point. > > That is a point, you want users to tinker with root privileges, when > there is a better, a KISS solution that is idiotproof. Sorry, with privileges, not root privileges. Anyway completely unneeded, and anti-KI

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Oops, Reco wrote, not I ;). > On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 14:35 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Sudo can be configured for passwordless access, but that's not the > > point. > > That is a point, you want users to tinker with root privileges, when > there is a better, a KISS solution that is idiotproof.

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 14:35 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Sudo can be configured for passwordless access, but that's not the > point. That is a point, you want users to tinker with root privileges, when there is a better, a KISS solution that is idiotproof. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-us

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 16:42 +0400, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 13:29:28 +0100 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > This would lead to "Error: cannot open display: :0.0". > > Sure, $ xhost +; sudo -u [...] does the trick, > > No, if you do it smart way, such as (in .xsessionrc): > > xaut

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 13:29:28 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > This would lead to "Error: cannot open display: :0.0". > Sure, $ xhost +; sudo -u [...] does the trick, No, if you do it smart way, such as (in .xsessionrc): xauth extract - $DISPLAY | sudo -u user1 -- sh -c \ "cat -> /home/user1/.

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 16:17 +0400, Reco wrote: > On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 13:13:26 +0100 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > If I start Firefox with profile A, I might have cookies enabled by > > default and the history only includes Linux links. > > > > When using Firefox profile B, I perhaps have cookies d

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Reco
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 13:13:26 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > If I start Firefox with profile A, I might have cookies enabled by > default and the history only includes Linux links. > > When using Firefox profile B, I perhaps have cookies disabled by default > and the history only includes links to a

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 16:05 +0400, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 12:55:23 +0100 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > I want to have different profiles on Linux machines to have different > > settings, different histories without changing the user. > > A classic example of a 'XY problem', Ra

Re: Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 12:55:23 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I want to have different profiles on Linux machines to have different > settings, different histories without changing the user. A classic example of a 'XY problem', Ralf. What problem are you trying to solve with this approach? Re

Off-topic: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 08:08 +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > Different browser profiles is like the way Outlook (Express) on > Windows have/had different profiles. That is a leftover from the old > times like Windows 3, 9x, etc when there was no possibility to have > different logins. Unix style compu

Re: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 11:24 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > But I didn't have much time Adding a new user and _copying the home directory from one user to the other_ and then making a few changes would save some time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 24 December 2013 08:08:21 Bonno Bloksma wrote: > Hi Ralf, > > >> But, isn't this the whole reason we use different login names > >> and let people have different home directories with their own > >> configs? > > > > Not necessarily when it's a family computer. > > I would almost say espe

Re: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Tue, 24 Dec 2013 08:08:21 + Bonno Bloksma napísal: > Hi Ralf, > > >> But, isn't this the whole reason we use different login names and > >> let people have different home directories with their own configs? > > > > Not necessarily when it's a family computer. > > I would almost s

RE: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-24 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi Ralf, >> But, isn't this the whole reason we use different login names and let >> people have different home directories with their own configs? > > Not necessarily when it's a family computer. I would almost say especially when it is a family computer. This is how I set it up all the time.

Re: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 16:53:36 +0100, Bonno Bloksma wrote: But, isn't this the whole reason we use different login names and let people have different home directories with their own configs? Not necessarily when it's a family computer. Helpful could be different browser profiles. Some browse

Re: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 23 December 2013 15:53:36 Bonno Bloksma wrote: > Hi, > > >> > But I have in the past signed onto my own account on my > >> > netbook and %$^&*^$£ Google won't allow me to do anything > >> > else. I can sign into my account, add Peter as an additional > >> > account, and then in future si

RE: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-23 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, >> > But I have in the past signed onto my own account on my netbook and >> > %$^&*^$£ Google won't allow me to do anything else. I can sign into >> > my account, add Peter as an additional account, and then in future >> > sign into his account from my account. But I don't want that. I >

Re: SOLVED was: Re: Gmail Grrrr. [web usernames and logins]

2013-12-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/12/13 12:54, Bob Proulx wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: >> Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> 1. Logout of your gmail account. >>> 2. Wipe cookies (Iceweasel -> Edit -> Preferences... -> Privacy -> >>> Remove individual cookies... -> Remove all cookies -> Close. >>> (google "saves" your account login using

Re: SOLVED was: Re: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Lisi Reisz wrote: > Scott Ferguson wrote: > > 1. Logout of your gmail account. > > 2. Wipe cookies (Iceweasel -> Edit -> Preferences... -> Privacy -> > > Remove individual cookies... -> Remove all cookies -> Close. > > (google "saves" your account login using cookies). > > 3. Login to his gmail acc

Re: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-21 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 17:37:47 -0500 Rob Owens sent: > > But I have in the past signed onto my own account on my netbook > > and %$^&*^$£ Google won't allow me to do anything else. I can sign > > into my account, add Peter as an additional account, and then in > > future sign into his account fr

SOLVED was: Re: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 21 December 2013 22:59:34 Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 22/12/13 09:31, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > My husband, a real technophobe, is going away for three weeks to > > house-sit. It is a last minute booking. He is going at 5:30 in > > the morning. I am giving him my netbook so that he can ke

Re: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 21 December 2013 22:37:47 Rob Owens wrote: > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:31:16PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > My husband, a real technophobe, is going away for three weeks to > > house-sit. It is a last minute booking. He is going at 5:30 in > > the morning. I am giving him my netbook

Re: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/12/13 09:31, Lisi Reisz wrote: > My husband, a real technophobe, is going away for three weeks to > house-sit. It is a last minute booking. He is going at 5:30 in the > morning. I am giving him my netbook so that he can keep up with his > emails. I have to keep it really simple or he w

Re: Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-21 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:31:16PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > My husband, a real technophobe, is going away for three weeks to > house-sit. It is a last minute booking. He is going at 5:30 in the > morning. I am giving him my netbook so that he can keep up with his > emails. I have to keep i

Gmail Grrrr.

2013-12-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
My husband, a real technophobe, is going away for three weeks to house-sit. It is a last minute booking. He is going at 5:30 in the morning. I am giving him my netbook so that he can keep up with his emails. I have to keep it really simple or he will just freak out when I am 250 miles (c.40