Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-11-05 Thread Tomasz Papszun
Please Cc: me in replies as I'm not subscribed to debian-user mailing list. I just sent my input to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and to Kianusch Sayah Karadji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> but the message was bounced with the error: "host mail.sk-tech.net[81.223.104.78] said: 554 Security failure)". I've got no probl

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:55:41 +, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 10:25:26PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..you say HP support's Debian Linux. Both may well be true, the > > sheer size of HP suggest one of these support scheme

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-30 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 at 06:27 GMT, Roberto Sanchez penned: > > As do I. However, my point about the preinstall, is that you at least > *know* that everything works under Linux if they preinstall it. As it > stands now, you never really know if all the hardware is supported. > Even if they would s

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-30 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 02:21:06AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > > They employ many people to develop Debian GNU/Linux and have donated > > quite a bit of our core infrastructure. Their Linux Chief Technology > > Officer is a former Debian Project Lead

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-30 Thread TR
> As do I. However, my point about the preinstall, is that you at least > *know* that everything works under Linux if they preinstall it. As it > stands now, you never really know if all the hardware is supported. > Even if they would sell it blank (no OS) and certify that it works > with Linux,

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-30 Thread kmark+debian
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 10:25:26PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..you say HP support's Debian Linux. Both may well be true, the sheer > > size of HP suggest one of these support schemes may be un-autorized > > by HP's corporate board. They might wan

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-29 Thread Roberto Sanchez
David Palmer. wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:19:55 -0500 Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Colin Watson wrote: They employ many people to develop Debian GNU/Linux and have donated quite a bit of our core infrastructure. Their Linux Chief Technology Officer is a former Debian Project Lead

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-29 Thread David Palmer.
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:19:55 -0500 Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > > They employ many people to develop Debian GNU/Linux and have donated > > quite a bit of our core infrastructure. Their Linux Chief Technology > > Officer is a former Debian Project Leader and

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-29 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Colin Watson wrote: They employ many people to develop Debian GNU/Linux and have donated quite a bit of our core infrastructure. Their Linux Chief Technology Officer is a former Debian Project Leader and a prolific Debian developer. I believe that HP employ more Debian developers than any other co

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 10:25:26PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..you say HP support's Debian Linux. Both may well be true, the sheer > size of HP suggest one of these support schemes may be un-autorized > by HP's corporate board. They might wanna know, and, trust needs > a minimum of spine, an

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:26:01 +, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:26:09PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:08:17 +, > > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:26:09PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:08:17 +, > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 01:43:52PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:04:03 +, > > > Colin W

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:08:17 +, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 01:43:52PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:04:03 +, > > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 01:43:52PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:04:03 +, > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 12:15:26AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..HP is sponsoring SCO "City to City Tour". I say

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:44:10 -0500, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 18:15, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..HP is sponsoring SCO "City to City Tour". I say boycott HP > > until they join us against SCO et al. Same for Sun etc. > > Yo

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 01:04:03 +, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 12:15:26AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:13:24 -0500, > > Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 12:15:26AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:13:24 -0500, > Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > So I would get to up in arms about it. > > ..HP is sponsoring SCO "City to City Tour". I say boycott HP > until the

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-28 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 18:15, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..HP is sponsoring SCO "City to City Tour". I say boycott HP > until they join us against SCO et al. Same for Sun etc. You should understand the "City to City" Folk are currently extremely embarrassed by the present High and mighty muckity m

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:13:24 -0500, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 14:09, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..IMHO, we should instead buy IBM irons and boycott HP, > > HP is sponsoring SCO; http://groklaw.net/ > > > No HP is not "supporting

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-28 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 14:09, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..IMHO, we should instead buy IBM irons and boycott HP, > HP is sponsoring SCO; http://groklaw.net/ > No HP is not "supporting SCO" on this matter. Neither is SUN (as they are doing the same) The reasoning they are using, is that *IF* customers

Re: Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
..IMHO, we should instead buy IBM irons and boycott HP, HP is sponsoring SCO; http://groklaw.net/ -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just

Getting HP to support Debian

2003-10-27 Thread Kianusch Sayah Karadji
Hi! So here we are trying to convince HP to support Debian! What we need are some figure. We've to tell HP that there are lot's of people/sysadmins out there who use Debian on HP Server or consider using buying HP-Hardware if they'd support Debian. HP claims, that since Debian has not figures o