2006/11/15, Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Look at this situation more positively. Not so long ago, Sun paid
absolutely no attention to GPL. Now they hope to gain public credit by
pretending to supporting it. Maybe in a little while they will figure
out a business strategy that allows them t
hendrik writes:
> But if a Sun dealer were to install Debian's Java package, would he still
> be subject to these restrictions?
They would be irrelevant. He would not be removing any logos. Do you
really think Sun could sue a dealer who took a trade-in machine from which
a customer had removed t
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> But if a Sun dealer were to install Debian's Java package, would he
> still be subject to these restrictions? And would that make it
> non-DFSG?
No, since that restriction wouldn't be put on the dealer by the
license from Debian, but by their completely separate agreement wit
On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 06:43:41PM +0100, Nicolas Pillot wrote:
> Sorry, i sent it to the poster, not the list.
>
> 2006/11/15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> If I understand that correctly, the question is if the logo is DFSG free.
> >> If it is not, Debian would have to remove it, b
Sorry, i sent it to the poster, not the list.
2006/11/15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> If I understand that correctly, the question is if the logo is DFSG free.
> If it is not, Debian would have to remove it, but that seems to not be
> allowed by the trademark use guidelines.
Er...
On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 11:17:39PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Kelly Clowers writes:
> > If I understand that correctly, the question is if the logo is DFSG free.
> > If it is not, Debian would have to remove it, but that seems to not be
> > allowed by the trademark use guidelines.
>
> Those rules
Kelly Clowers writes:
> If I understand that correctly, the question is if the logo is DFSG free.
> If it is not, Debian would have to remove it, but that seems to not be
> allowed by the trademark use guidelines.
Those rules are for Sun dealers. Debian is not and will never be a Sun
dealer. Red
On 11/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Last I heard, you could only use the mane "Java" if you followed Sun's
spec. That was the core of their lawsuit with Microsoft. But they
nevet, to my knowledge required anything but conformance to a spec,
never line-by-line approval of
On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 11:50:45AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On 11/14/06, Joshua J. Kugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Tuesday 14 November 2006 04:02, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> >> Okay, so Java's GPL'd now: http://www.sun.com/2006-1113/feature/index.jsp
> >> (Also http://java.net/ )
> >>
>
Kelly Clowers wrote:
I forgot about the Java "Coffee cup" logo, and I can't find any new info
on it.
You also forgot about the little triangle shaped guy that the Java JRE
has included with it. (e.g. Task-tray Java guy logo on Windows machines
that are running the JRE -- or whatever they ca
On 11/14/06, Kelly Clowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The equivilant of the Firefox problem would be if "Duke", the Java mascot
was under a non-free licence and Sun said the you could not use the
trademark "Java" without including Duke. But as far as I know, Sun has
not said that, and anyway, Du
On 11/14/06, Joshua J. Kugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 04:02, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> Okay, so Java's GPL'd now: http://www.sun.com/2006-1113/feature/index.jsp
> (Also http://java.net/ )
>
> How soon will we see packages in main at long last? Granted, a buildable
>
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 04:02, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> Okay, so Java's GPL'd now: http://www.sun.com/2006-1113/feature/index.jsp
> (Also http://java.net/ )
>
> How soon will we see packages in main at long last? Granted, a buildable
> JDK isn't expected until Spring of next year...
I'm going
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On 11/14/06 07:41, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> On 11/14/06, Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Okay, so Java's GPL'd now: http://www.sun.com/2006-1113/feature/index.jsp
>> (Also http://java.net/ )
>>
>> How soon will we see packages in main at l
On 11/14/06, Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Okay, so Java's GPL'd now: http://www.sun.com/2006-1113/feature/index.jsp
(Also http://java.net/ )
How soon will we see packages in main at long last? Granted, a buildable
JDK isn't expected until Spring of next year...
Hi Gregory,
Short
Okay, so Java's GPL'd now: http://www.sun.com/2006-1113/feature/index.jsp
(Also http://java.net/ )
How soon will we see packages in main at long last? Granted, a buildable
JDK isn't expected until Spring of next year...
--Greg
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