Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-14 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2011 14 Nov 10:00 -0600, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Well, I've usually found Debian testing to be a winning team. I have > changed players -- I've moved to XFCE. Icewm didn't seem to have any way > to suspend or hibernate. Is IceWM even under active development any more? It had a reasonable f

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-14 Thread John L. Cunningham
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 03:26:26PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:03:15 -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > Apps that used the former system tray now place their icons in a special > > bar at the bottom of the screen. Moving the mouse to the lower right > > corner makes the bar

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:03:15 -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > As a follow-up, installing gnaome-tweak-tool allows one to restore the > minimize and maximize buttons to each window. I guess this is what I get for using testing. > > When switching apps, Alt-Tab brings up the list of apps, but while

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:16:57 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 22:43 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:41:46 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: >> >> > Hi, all: >> > >> > What an appalling piece of crap is GNOME3! > > Full ACK! > >> I just did an innocent routine

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 18:52 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 07:28 -0800, kei...@strucktower.com wrote: > > > > > > The most serious issue is, that some professional FLOSS apps were > > > written for GNOME 2, with GNOME 3 we fall back to an amateur OS > > > regarding to some apps.

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 07:28 -0800, kei...@strucktower.com wrote: > > > > The most serious issue is, that some professional FLOSS apps were > > written for GNOME 2, with GNOME 3 we fall back to an amateur OS > > regarding to some apps. > > > > - Ralf > > > > OK, I'm a n00b, so I don't always unders

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-13 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:46:34 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 14:39 +, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> > I'm using fallback mode and I'm still able to restore GNOME 2 ;). >> >> You've been warned: this will dissapear sooner or later so you can >> start looking for a replecement..

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 22:43 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:41:46 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > > Hi, all: > > > > What an appalling piece of crap is GNOME3! Full ACK! > I just did an innocent routine upgrade, and an eminently usable gnome 2 > turned into a mess. Inste

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 14:39 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:10:54 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > Everything Camaleón wrote is true, > > Your confirmation is reassuring... > > > e.g. for the default Windows just the buttons are missing, > > You can make them visible by using

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-13 Thread Andrew Wood
Am I the only one who actually finds Gnome 3 to be a far more efficent way of working, particularly with regard to switching between windows? I always have been a bit odd ;) How am I supposed to be efficient with this thing? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org wi

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-13 Thread keitho
> > The most serious issue is, that some professional FLOSS apps were > written for GNOME 2, with GNOME 3 we fall back to an amateur OS > regarding to some apps. > > - Ralf > OK, I'm a n00b, so I don't always understand how things work. But that sounds backward to me why would one write "profe

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-13 Thread Richard
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:10:54 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Forwarded Message > From: Ralf Mardorf > To: Camaleón > Subject: Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work. > Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:48:26 +0100 > > On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 10:59 +,

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-13 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:10:54 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Everything Camaleón wrote is true, Your confirmation is reassuring... > e.g. for the default Windows just the buttons are missing, You can make them visible by using the gnome-tweak-tools package or manually editing the configuration

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Forwarded Message From: Ralf Mardorf To: Camaleón Subject: Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work. Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:48:26 +0100 On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 10:59 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:43:27 +, Hendrik Bo

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-13 Thread Nate Bargmann
As a follow-up, installing gnaome-tweak-tool allows one to restore the minimize and maximize buttons to each window. When switching apps, Alt-Tab brings up the list of apps, but while continuing to hold down the Alt key, pressing left goes through the list from right to left. When one gets to an

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-13 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:43:27 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: (...) > There's no way to minimize a window. Yes, you can minimize a window by: - Pressing the minimize button located at the right corner of the window - Right-click on the window title and pres "Minimize" > I can slide my browser off

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-12 Thread Nate Bargmann
I right-clicked on the app title bar and selected minimize from there. To get the app back I used Alt-Tab. IceWM is a nice bit of software. I used it for a long time. I think that if you want something similar to your GNOME 2 panel experience that XFCE will probably be a reasonable choice. I ha

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! What specifically didn't work.

2011-11-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:41:46 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > Hi, all: > > What an appalling piece of crap is GNOME3! I just did an innocent routine upgrade, and an eminently usable gnome 2 turned into a mess. Instead of writing my novel, I spent the rest of the evening trying to figure out