Re: Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

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Re: Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

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Re: Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

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Re: Why I don't like UUIDs (Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32)

2020-02-06 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Every time you have to reboot, it means your OS has somewhat failed you. > i don't think that at all. remember that each person can > have different preferences, requirements and expectations. That's why I wrote "have to". Of course, if you choose to reboot it, it's not you OS's fault. > sy

Re: Why I don't like UUIDs (Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32)

2020-02-06 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 Feb 2020 at 22:54:33 (-0500), Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 07:33:38PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 05 Feb 2020 at 15:59:27 (-0500), Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 01:43:37PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Wed 05 Feb 2020 at 09:00:41 (-

Re: Why I don't like UUIDs (Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32)

2020-02-06 Thread songbird
Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> PS: The only problem with LVM names is that Linux doesn't let you >>> rename a volume group while it's active (at least last time I tried), >>> which makes it painful to rename the volume group in which lives your >>> root partition. >> How painful is it to dd a live cd, b

Re: Why I don't like UUIDs (Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32)

2020-02-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 07:33:38PM -0600, David Wright wrote: On Wed 05 Feb 2020 at 15:59:27 (-0500), Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 01:43:37PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 05 Feb 2020 at 09:00:41 (-0500), Michael Stone wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 07:04:16PM -0500, St

Re: Why I don't like UUIDs (Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32)

2020-02-05 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 Feb 2020 at 16:47:13 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 01:43:37PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > I don't suppose either of us will meet a UUID collision in our > > lifetimes, and it's obviously a sensible scheme to use where there > > are large numbers of commoditise

Re: Why I don't like UUIDs (Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32)

2020-02-05 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 Feb 2020 at 15:59:27 (-0500), Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 01:43:37PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 05 Feb 2020 at 09:00:41 (-0500), Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 07:04:16PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > While I'm sure this can be mana

Re: Why I don't like UUIDs (Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32)

2020-02-05 Thread 0...@caiway.net
On Tue, 04 Feb 2020 22:19:25 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > How painful is it to dd a live cd, boot from it and rename? > > Very. It's called "downtime". > Every time you have to reboot, it means your OS has somewhat failed > you. > > > Stefan > You are absolutely right!

Re: Why I don't like UUIDs (Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32)

2020-02-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Usually a UUID collision is a result of a subtle mistake, like cloning > a disk and then trying to mount a file system by UUID while the clone > is still attached. At least, that's the first scenario I can think of. I wouldn't call it a "subtle mistake". Instead it's what *always* happens when

Re: Why I don't like UUIDs (Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32)

2020-02-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 01:43:37PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > I don't suppose either of us will meet a UUID collision in our > lifetimes, and it's obviously a sensible scheme to use where there > are large numbers of commoditised objects to name. Usually a UUID collision is a result of a subtle

Re: Why I don't like UUIDs (Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32)

2020-02-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 01:43:37PM -0600, David Wright wrote: On Wed 05 Feb 2020 at 09:00:41 (-0500), Michael Stone wrote: On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 07:04:16PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > While I'm sure this can be managed by explicitly setting UUIDs, I've > found it much more pleasant to manag

Re: Why I don't like UUIDs (Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32)

2020-02-05 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 Feb 2020 at 09:00:41 (-0500), Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 07:04:16PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > Me too, so I usually label the permanent stuff at least. UUID's can and > > > > will change for no detectable reason. > > > For those reading along or finding this

Re: Why I don't like UUIDs (Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32)

2020-02-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>What he meant is that filesystem UUIDs are (re)created automatically >>based on a heuristic of what it means for a filesystem to be "the same". > You understand that he didn't actually say that, right? This seems like your > own personal bugaboo instead. Definitely. > I dislike using names beca

Re: Why I don't like UUIDs (Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32)

2020-02-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 07:04:16PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: Me too, so I usually label the permanent stuff at least. UUID's can and will change for no detectable reason. For those reading along or finding this in search results: no, filesystem UUIDs don't change for no detectable reason. Don

Re: Why I don't like UUIDs (Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32)

2020-02-05 Thread Curt
>>> Me too, so I usually label the permanent stuff at least. UUID's can and >>> will change for no detectable reason. >> For those reading along or finding this in search results: no, filesystem >> UUIDs don't change for no detectable reason. Don't implement anything based >> on this theory. > > Wh

Re: Why I don't like UUIDs (Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32)

2020-02-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> PS: The only problem with LVM names is that Linux doesn't let you >> rename a volume group while it's active (at least last time I tried), >> which makes it painful to rename the volume group in which lives your >> root partition. > How painful is it to dd a live cd, boot from it and rename? Ve

Re: Why I don't like UUIDs (Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32)

2020-02-04 Thread 0...@caiway.net
> PS: The only problem with LVM names is that Linux doesn't let you > rename a volume group while it's active (at least last time I tried), > which makes it painful to rename the volume group in which lives your > root partition. > How painful is it to dd a live cd, boot from it and rename? 3 m

Why I don't like UUIDs (Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32)

2020-02-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Me too, so I usually label the permanent stuff at least. UUID's can and >> will change for no detectable reason. > For those reading along or finding this in search results: no, filesystem > UUIDs don't change for no detectable reason. Don't implement anything based > on this theory. What he me

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 04 February 2020 15:03:54 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 04 Feb 2020 at 11:48:10 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 04 February 2020 08:51:47 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > >> I bet some of his RT patches caused a mess > > > > > > > > Nope, I just needed to reboot. > > > > > > "Need

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-04 Thread David Wright
On Tue 04 Feb 2020 at 11:48:10 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 04 February 2020 08:51:47 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > >> I bet some of his RT patches caused a mess > > > > > > Nope, I just needed to reboot. > > > > "Needed to reboot" in this context means "need to work around a bug". > >

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 04 February 2020 08:51:47 Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> I bet some of his RT patches caused a mess > > > > Nope, I just needed to reboot. > > "Needed to reboot" in this context means "need to work around a bug". > I have no idea whether that bug has anything to with the RT patches, > but t

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 11:24:56AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 11:06:10AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Me too, so I usually label the permanent stuff at least. UUID's can and > > will change for no detectable reason. > > For those reading along or finding this in search

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-04 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 11:06:10AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Me too, so I usually label the permanent stuff at least. UUID's can and will change for no detectable reason. For those reading along or finding this in search results: no, filesystem UUIDs don't change for no detectable reason. Don

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 04 February 2020 07:47:58 songbird wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 03 February 2020 23:56:47 David Wright wrote: > >> Well, at least one of my guesses was correct. > >> > >:) > > > > FWIW, the reboot fixed the can't mount, both partitions on this sd > > card now mount normall

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-04 Thread David Wright
On Tue 04 Feb 2020 at 07:47:58 (-0500), songbird wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 03 February 2020 23:56:47 David Wright wrote: > > > >> Well, at least one of my guesses was correct. > > > >:) > > > > FWIW, the reboot fixed the can't mount, both partitions on this sd card > > now mount n

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-04 Thread songbird
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 03 February 2020 23:56:47 David Wright wrote: > >> Well, at least one of my guesses was correct. > >:) > > FWIW, the reboot fixed the can't mount, both partitions on this sd card > now mount normally, but are on /dev/sde now since the were found at > bootup. I've h

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> I bet some of his RT patches caused a mess > Nope, I just needed to reboot. "Needed to reboot" in this context means "need to work around a bug". I have no idea whether that bug has anything to with the RT patches, but the fact that rebooting avoided the problem is at least no proof that the pr

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 04 February 2020 02:21:32 deloptes wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > > There's no FAT filesystem there. It might be corrupted, it might > > actually be on /dev/sdf with a bogus partition table. > > I bet some of his RT patches caused a mess Nope, I just needed to reboot. Cheers, Gene Heske

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-03 Thread deloptes
Dan Ritter wrote: > There's no FAT filesystem there. It might be corrupted, it might > actually be on /dev/sdf with a bogus partition table. I bet some of his RT patches caused a mess

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 February 2020 23:56:47 David Wright wrote: > Well, at least one of my guesses was correct. :) FWIW, the reboot fixed the can't mount, both partitions on this sd card now mount normally, but are on /dev/sde now since the were found at bootup. I've had this happen before, back befor

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 February 2020 23:56:47 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 03 Feb 2020 at 16:20:59 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 03 February 2020 14:15:14 David Wright wrote: > > > On Mon 03 Feb 2020 at 14:02:31 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 03 February 2020 13:31:16 David Wrig

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 February 2020 21:34:46 songbird wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 03 February 2020 13:17:04 Dan Ritter wrote: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > Greetings all; > >> > > >> > I want to look at its directory structure because its different, > >> > and I'd like to deduce how to gen

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-03 Thread David Wright
On Mon 03 Feb 2020 at 16:20:59 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 03 February 2020 14:15:14 David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 03 Feb 2020 at 14:02:31 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 03 February 2020 13:31:16 David Wright wrote: > > > > On Mon 03 Feb 2020 at 12:40:20 (-0500), Gene He

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-03 Thread songbird
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 03 February 2020 13:17:04 Dan Ritter wrote: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> > Greetings all; >> > >> > I want to look at its directory structure because its different, and >> > I'd like to deduce how to generate it in a kernel make for a newer, >> > preempt-rt kernel. >>

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 03 February 2020 14:07:46 David Wright wrote: > > > On Mon 03 Feb 2020 at 13:57:08 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 03 February 2020 13:17:04 Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > Actual error message, please. > > > > > > gene@coyote:~/PublicA/pi-buster$ sudo mount

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 February 2020 14:15:14 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 03 Feb 2020 at 14:02:31 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 03 February 2020 13:31:16 David Wright wrote: > > > On Mon 03 Feb 2020 at 12:40:20 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > I want to look at its directory structure beca

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 February 2020 14:07:46 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 03 Feb 2020 at 13:57:08 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 03 February 2020 13:17:04 Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Actual error message, please. > > > > gene@coyote:~/PublicA/pi-buster$ sudo mount -tvfat /dev/sdf1 > > /media/sdf1 m

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-03 Thread David Wright
On Mon 03 Feb 2020 at 14:02:31 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 03 February 2020 13:31:16 David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 03 Feb 2020 at 12:40:20 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I want to look at its directory structure because its different, and > > > I'd like to deduce how to generate i

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-03 Thread David Wright
On Mon 03 Feb 2020 at 13:57:08 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 03 February 2020 13:17:04 Dan Ritter wrote: > > Actual error message, please. > gene@coyote:~/PublicA/pi-buster$ sudo mount -tvfat /dev/sdf1 /media/sdf1 > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdf1, >

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 February 2020 13:31:16 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 03 Feb 2020 at 12:40:20 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > I want to look at its directory structure because its different, and > > I'd like to deduce how to generate it in a kernel make for a newer, > > preempt-rt kernel. > > Yes, I c

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 February 2020 13:17:04 Dan Ritter wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > I want to look at its directory structure because its different, and > > I'd like to deduce how to generate it in a kernel make for a newer, > > preempt-rt kernel. > > Actual error message, pleas

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-03 Thread David Wright
On Mon 03 Feb 2020 at 12:40:20 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > I want to look at its directory structure because its different, and I'd > like to deduce how to generate it in a kernel make for a newer, > preempt-rt kernel. Yes, I can't mount it either, because I'm not running stretch. > Thank

Re: can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I want to look at its directory structure because its different, and I'd > like to deduce how to generate it in a kernel make for a newer, > preempt-rt kernel. Actual error message, please. sudo parted -l sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /mnt/t

can't mount sdf1 in stretch, gparted claims its fat32

2020-02-03 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; I want to look at its directory structure because its different, and I'd like to deduce how to generate it in a kernel make for a newer, preempt-rt kernel. Thanks for any enlightenment. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ball

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2017-01-02 Thread tomas
gt; > > Auto-selecting FAT32 for large filesystem ...and overlooked this: > > > # mkfs.fat -F 16 -i 20161231 -n PETROLEUM2G -r 2000 -v /dev/sdb1 > > This was intended to create a FAT16 filesystem... you are right. [...] > > This is very interesting! Seems FAT32 has a limit

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2017-01-02 Thread rhkramer
figure why no more would fit until I found this out. I don't > > know if the limit got expanded for fat32 and msdos 7 > > Will nobody read the darn thread before posting half-wrong statements? > And possibly check their own facts against reliable sources? > > The limit

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2017-01-02 Thread Nicolas George
imit got > expanded for fat32 and msdos 7 Will nobody read the darn thread before posting half-wrong statements? And possibly check their own facts against reliable sources? The limit does not come from the OS, it is coded in the "superblock" of the filesystem. It can be configured w

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2017-01-02 Thread Jude DaShiell
msdos 6.22 which was fat16 had a limit of 112 files in top level directory. Once I tried putting more than that on a floppy disk and couldn't figure why no more would fit until I found this out. I don't know if the limit got expanded for fat32 and msdos 7 but since Microsoft has be

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2017-01-02 Thread David Wright
ting > > whole devices). Then: > > Thanks for trying to replicate. Didn't know about the device thing. Will > try when I've an USB stick which isn't my main backup :) > > > # mkfs.fat -i 20161231 -n PETROLEUM2G -r 2000 -v /dev/sdb1 > > mkfs.fat 3.0.

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2017-01-01 Thread tomas
e device thing. Will try when I've an USB stick which isn't my main backup :) > # mkfs.fat -i 20161231 -n PETROLEUM2G -r 2000 -v /dev/sdb1 > mkfs.fat 3.0.27 (2014-11-12) > Auto-selecting FAT32 for large filesystem OK, seems FAT32 has bigger limits (and it's actually selected

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2017-01-01 Thread Xen
to...@tuxteam.de schreef op 31-12-2016 10:35: On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 07:38:18AM +0100, Xen wrote: do...@mail.com schreef op 26-12-2016 3:41: >I encountered this many times on windowz FAT32 in a non-root dir, but >never on Linux. I suspect that it was/is one of their "Features&

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2016-12-31 Thread David Wright
On Sat 31 Dec 2016 at 10:35:02 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 07:38:18AM +0100, Xen wrote: > > do...@mail.com schreef op 26-12-2016 3:41: > > > > >I encountered this many times on windowz FAT32 in a non-root dir, but > > >never on Linux

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2016-12-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 31 December 2016 09:16:10 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/31/2016 7:49 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 31 December 2016 08:01:15 Nicolas George wrote: > >> Le primidi 11 nivôse, an CCXXV, Gene Heskett a écrit : > >>> From personal experience decades ago, on a dos3.2 system, this

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2016-12-31 Thread Nicolas George
Le primidi 11 nivôse, an CCXXV, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > Think a little more about it: it is a limitation of the format, not > > the operating system. If an operating system extends the format, it is > > no longer compatible with the rest of the world, and then there is no > > reason to use FAT a

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2016-12-31 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 02:01:15PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 11 nivôse, an CCXXV, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > From personal experience decades ago, on a dos3.2 system, this is > > correct. But I can't testify about the newer, or the now

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2016-12-31 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/31/2016 7:49 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 31 December 2016 08:01:15 Nicolas George wrote: Le primidi 11 nivôse, an CCXXV, Gene Heskett a écrit : From personal experience decades ago, on a dos3.2 system, this is correct. But I can't testify about the newer, or the now several non-

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2016-12-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 31 December 2016 08:01:15 Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 11 nivôse, an CCXXV, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > From personal experience decades ago, on a dos3.2 system, this is > > correct. But I can't testify about the newer, or the now several > > non-M$ versions of dos. I saw an annou

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2016-12-31 Thread Nicolas George
Le primidi 11 nivôse, an CCXXV, Gene Heskett a écrit : > From personal experience decades ago, on a dos3.2 system, this is > correct. But I can't testify about the newer, or the now several non-M$ > versions of dos. I saw an announcement of yet another dos release just a > couple weeks back. I a

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2016-12-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 31 December 2016 04:35:02 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 07:38:18AM +0100, Xen wrote: > > do...@mail.com schreef op 26-12-2016 3:41: > > >I encountered this many times on windowz FAT32 in a non-root dir, > > > but never on Linux. I su

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2016-12-31 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 07:38:18AM +0100, Xen wrote: > do...@mail.com schreef op 26-12-2016 3:41: > > >I encountered this many times on windowz FAT32 in a non-root dir, but > >never on Linux. I suspect that it was/is one of the

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2016-12-28 Thread Xen
do...@mail.com schreef op 26-12-2016 3:41: I encountered this many times on windowz FAT32 in a non-root dir, but never on Linux. I suspect that it was/is one of their "Features". The said "Feature" still was there when using ntfs in XP if I remember correctly. Perha

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

2016-12-28 Thread doark
On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 13:46:25 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: > > As I recall that there is (or used to be?) a limit on the number of > > files in the > > top level directory of a FAT32 (or 16?) partition / drive. If you > > needed to > > have more files in a

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level directory

2016-12-08 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, December 08, 2016 12:49:42 PM Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 08 Dec 2016, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: ... > Ugh. Well, for FAT32, "it depends" on the implementation, but it is not > unlimited. > > Even for FAT12/16, the number of entries in

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level directory

2016-12-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 08 Dec 2016, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Does anybody else (reading this) recall that, and recall more details, like > the maximum number of files and which FAT systems (32 or 16) this applied to, > and, further, is it still a limit on FAT32? Ugh. Well, for FAT32, "it d

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level directory

2016-12-08 Thread Charlie Kravetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 07:42:33 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >I've been googling to try to answer this question, so far, no luck. > >I recall that there is (or used to be?) a limit on the number of files in the >top level directo

Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level directory

2016-12-08 Thread Nicolas George
L'octidi 18 frimaire, an CCXXV, rhkra...@gmail.com a écrit : > I recall that there is (or used to be?) a limit on the number of files in the > top level directory of a FAT32 (or 16?) partition / drive. If you needed to > have more files in a directory, you had to create a subdire

OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level directory

2016-12-08 Thread rhkramer
I've been googling to try to answer this question, so far, no luck. I recall that there is (or used to be?) a limit on the number of files in the top level directory of a FAT32 (or 16?) partition / drive. If you needed to have more files in a directory, you had to create a subdirectory

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-12 Thread Tixy
On Sat, 2016-11-12 at 17:19 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 12 November 2016 15:45:28 Brian wrote: > > The behaviour of your aptitude is presumably because you have adjusted > > the default behaviour in some way. The new behaviour is not a bug. > > No, I haven't. This is a temporary machin

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 12 November 2016 15:45:28 Brian wrote: > The behaviour of your aptitude is presumably because you have adjusted > the default behaviour in some way. The new behaviour is not a bug. No, I haven't. This is a temporary machine, which I have not been using long. I have adjusted very lit

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-12 Thread Brian
On Sat 12 Nov 2016 at 13:45:38 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 11 November 2016 21:58:58 Brian wrote: > > Not installing a recommended package on a default Debian would be a bug. > > Aptitude on my current almost vanilla temporary Jessie install doesn't > install > recommends. But it make

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 11 November 2016 21:58:58 Brian wrote: > Not installing a recommended package on a default Debian would be a bug. Aptitude on my current almost vanilla temporary Jessie install doesn't install recommends. But it makes a big point of telling me a) that they are recommended and b) that

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread David Wright
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 16:45:40 (-0800), Joseph Loo wrote: > On 11/11/2016 04:39 PM, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 18:36:15 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Friday, November 11, 2016 04:58:41 PM Pascal Hambourg wrote: > >>> Le 11/11/2016 à 22:17, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : >

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Joseph Loo
On 11/11/2016 04:39 PM, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 18:36:15 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Friday, November 11, 2016 04:58:41 PM Pascal Hambourg wrote: >>> Le 11/11/2016 à 22:17, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : The older format is MBR with 4 primary partitions and 4 logical

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread David Wright
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 18:36:15 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, November 11, 2016 04:58:41 PM Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Le 11/11/2016 à 22:17, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : > > > The older format is MBR with 4 primary partitions and 4 logical > > > ones in one of the primary partitions.

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Felix Miata
rhkra...@gmail.com composed on 2016-11-11 18:36 (UTC-0500): Pascal Hambourg wrote: Thomas Schmitt composed: > The older format is MBR with 4 primary partitions and 4 logical > ones in one of the primary partitions. Huh ? The number of logical partitions is unlimited. Ok, just to be p

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, November 11, 2016 04:58:41 PM Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 11/11/2016 à 22:17, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : > > The older format is MBR with 4 primary partitions and 4 logical > > ones in one of the primary partitions. > > Huh ? The number of logical partitions is unlimited. Ok, just to be

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread David Wright
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 23:22:36 (+0100), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: > > > The older format is MBR with 4 primary partitions and 4 logical > > > ones in one of the primary partitions. > > Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Huh ? The number of logical partitions is unlimited. > > You are righ

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > The older format is MBR with 4 primary partitions and 4 logical > > ones in one of the primary partitions. Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Huh ? The number of logical partitions is unlimited. You are right. Must have been some mislead memory from old experience with partitioning tools.

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread David Wright
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 20:18:59 (+), Brian wrote: > On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 20:53:17 +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > > Le primidi 21 brumaire, an CCXXV, David Wright a écrit : > > > Any reference. You see, I find label a very slippery word. > > > You can label a disk at almost every level: a sti

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 11/11/2016 à 22:17, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : The older format is MBR with 4 primary partitions and 4 logical ones in one of the primary partitions. Huh ? The number of logical partitions is unlimited.

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 15:03:57 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > The problem was missing mtools. When I had used Synaptic to install Gparted > it had pulled in dostools but not mtools. Is that a "bug" or "annoyance"? Not installing a recommended package on a default Debian would be a bug. Not instal

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/11/2016 9:38 PM, Doug wrote: /snip/ Gparted needs external software to enable some features. According to , mtools is required to change the label on a FAT filesystem. I wonder if there is a LIVE disk that includes the various external softwa

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Doug
/snip/ Gparted needs external software to enable some features. According to , mtools is required to change the label on a FAT filesystem. I wonder if there is a LIVE disk that includes the various external software files? It would be handy to have

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright wrote: > So I'm unsure what you mean by a partition label, where it's > stored, and how it differs from a filesystem label. See "Partition name (36 UTF-16LE code units)" in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table#Partition_entries This describes the GPT partition ta

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Richard Owlett
Agent GoFlex Drive" #2 is extended partition for remainder of drive #5 is fat32 62.5 GiB [31.5 GiB used] with no label I successfully mounted partitions 1 and 5. Both are readable and contain files from unknown Windows machines. On my Windows Desktop hardware C:\Documents and Settings\u

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/11/2016 7:30 PM, Doug wrote: On 11/11/2016 01:07 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 11/11/2016 à 16:47, Richard Owlett a écrit : Partitions: #1 is ntfs 293 GiB [146 GiB used] labeled "FreeAgent GoFlex Drive" #2 is extended partition for remainder of drive #5 is fat32 62.5 GiB

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Doug
On 11/11/2016 01:42 PM, Brian wrote: On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 19:30:51 -0600, Doug wrote: On 11/11/2016 01:07 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: /snip/ Gparted needs external software to enable some features. According to , mtools is required to change the

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 14:45:16 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 11/11/2016 1:22 PM, David Wright wrote: > >On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 18:59:29 (+0100), Nicolas George wrote: > >>Le primidi 21 brumaire, an CCXXV, Brian a écrit : > >>>gparted for labelling a partition is overkill. Use dosfslabel. > >> >

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/11/2016 1:22 PM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 18:59:29 (+0100), Nicolas George wrote: Le primidi 21 brumaire, an CCXXV, Brian a écrit : gparted for labelling a partition is overkill. Use dosfslabel. dosfslabel label will not label a partition, it will label a filesystem.

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Richard Owlett
"FreeAgent GoFlex Drive" #2 is extended partition for remainder of drive #5 is fat32 62.5 GiB [31.5 GiB used] with no label I successfully mounted partitions 1 and 5. Both are readable and contain files from unknown Windows machines. On my Windows Desktop hardware C:\Documents and Set

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 20:53:17 +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 brumaire, an CCXXV, David Wright a écrit : > > Any reference. You see, I find label a very slippery word. > > You can label a disk at almost every level: a sticky label, > > True, but not really relevant. > > > a disklab

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Brian
gt; > #1 is ntfs 293 GiB [146 GiB used] labeled "FreeAgent GoFlex Drive" > > #2 is extended partition for remainder of drive > > #5 is fat32 62.5 GiB [31.5 GiB used] with no label > > > > > >I successfully mounted partitions 1 and 5. Both are readable

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Nicolas George
Le primidi 21 brumaire, an CCXXV, David Wright a écrit : > Any reference. You see, I find label a very slippery word. > You can label a disk at almost every level: a sticky label, True, but not really relevant. > a disklabel (partition table), This is BSD slang. But this was what I was referring

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Seeker
On 11/11/2016 5:30 PM, Doug wrote: On 11/11/2016 01:07 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 11/11/2016 à 16:47, Richard Owlett a écrit : Partitions: #1 is ntfs 293 GiB [146 GiB used] labeled "FreeAgent GoFlex Drive" #2 is extended partition for remainder of drive #5 is fat32 62.5 GiB

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Michael Milliman
tition for remainder of drive #5 is fat32 62.5 GiB [31.5 GiB used] with no label I successfully mounted partitions 1 and 5. Both are readable and contain files from unknown Windows machines. On my Windows Desktop hardware C:\Documents and Settings\user\Recent indicates that it had been us

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread David Wright
On Fri 11 Nov 2016 at 20:32:52 (+0100), Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 brumaire, an CCXXV, David Wright a écrit : > > Does a partition have a label? > > Yes, depending on the partition scheme. Any reference. You see, I find label a very slippery word. You can label a disk at almost every l

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Brian
#2 is extended partition for remainder of drive > >> #5 is fat32 62.5 GiB [31.5 GiB used] with no label > >(...) > >>I attempted to label partition 5 with Gparted, but the "Label" menu > >>option was greyed out. > >>The "Label" option wa

Re: Gparted will not label an existing FAT32 partition

2016-11-11 Thread Nicolas George
Le primidi 21 brumaire, an CCXXV, David Wright a écrit : > Does a partition have a label? Yes, depending on the partition scheme. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

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