On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 06:00:34PM -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> lee wrote:
> > Exim4 is another example. I can configure it easily bypassing the
> > automatic configuration, but I'm unable to configure it using the
> > auomatic configuration.
>
> Well, you can't, but other people can (at l
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 05:10:06PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Sunday 07 December 2008, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re:
> Better support for merging local and upstream (was: Erase cache, clean
> registry in Linux)':
> >On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at
On Tuesday 2008 December 09 13:33:19 lee wrote:
>On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 08:24:45PM -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
>> From: lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> > When a program uses a number of different configuration files, it's
>> > much more difficult for the administrator to configure it.
>>
>> I
lee wrote:
> Exim4 is another example. I can configure it easily bypassing the
> automatic configuration, but I'm unable to configure it using the
> auomatic configuration.
Well, you can't, but other people can (at least one, ie, me). It's a
matter of preference, and Debian respects that.
> Well,
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 08:24:45PM -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> From: lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > When a program uses a number of different configuration files, it's
> > much more difficult for the administrator to configure it.
>
> I'd say it's a matter of preference. I like exim's split
On Sunday 07 December 2008, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re:
Better support for merging local and upstream (was: Erase cache, clean
registry in Linux)':
>On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 03:42:42AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>> On Saturday 2008 December 06 02:0
From: lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> When a program uses a number of different configuration files, it's
> much more difficult for the administrator to configure it.
I'd say it's a matter of preference. I like exim's split configuration, it
makes upgrades easier as I only have to deal with the parts t
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 03:42:42AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Saturday 2008 December 06 02:03, lee wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 12:45:28AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > > I disagree with this. It should be possible to establish "hooks" so that
> > > the administrato
On Saturday 2008 December 06 02:03, lee wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 12:45:28AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > On Friday 2008 December 05 23:02, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > > When an upgrade is installed, local changes *have* to be merged with
> > > the changes brought in from the upgra
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 12:45:28AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Friday 2008 December 05 23:02, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > When an upgrade is installed, local changes *have* to be merged with the
> > changes brought in from the upgrade. That's just an unvoidable need.
>
> I disagree wi
On Friday 2008 December 05 23:02, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >>> Q: How are we going to do that?
> >>> A: It's not possible in general.
> >>
> >> Of course it is, since you can always fall back on the current code in
> >> those cases where you don't know how else to do it.
> >
> > No, it's not.
> > Fa
>>> Q: How are we going to do that?
>>> A: It's not possible in general.
>> Of course it is, since you can always fall back on the current code in
>> those cases where you don't know how else to do it.
> No, it's not.
> Falling back to the old behavior (not merging changes) is not a technique
> for
On Friday 05 December 2008, Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
about 'Re: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux':
>> Q: How are we going to do that?
>> A: It's not possible in general.
>
>Of course it is, since you can always fall back on the current co
> Q: How are we going to do that?
> A: It's not possible in general.
Of course it is, since you can always fall back on the current code in
those cases where you don't know how else to do it.
> When something is impossible, it's impractical to think about how it
> would be done.
Solving NP-hard
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 11:53:28AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 09:41, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 09:11:11PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> >> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 00:36, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > How do I turn it off? I don't
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 09:41, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 09:11:11PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 00:36, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > What the hell is "gnome-mount extension"?
>> >>
>> >> It handles semiautomatic mounting and unmo
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 11:45:55AM -0600, lee wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 03:06:05AM -0800, Angus Auld wrote:
>
> > > How do you use enlightenment as window manager with KDE?
> > >
>
> > I
> > just choose Fluxbox from the kdm menu at login. I expect it would
> > just be a matter of installi
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 01:22:44PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
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> Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> > See package Filelight. Very useful to "see" where all your disk space
> > is used and by what.
>
> That reminds me of konqueror's file size view.
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 03:06:05AM -0800, Angus Auld wrote:
> > How do you use enlightenment as window manager with KDE?
> >
> I'm not familiar with Enlightenment window manager, but I do have
> Fluxbox installed as an alternate wm, and it works fine w/KDE. I
> just choose Fluxbox from the kdm m
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Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> See package Filelight. Very useful to "see" where all your disk space
> is used and by what.
That reminds me of konqueror's file size view. Just that kde's thing
looks squared, not round.
Johannes
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> From: lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 2:57 AM
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 01:39:41PM -0800, Angus Auld wrote:
>
> > Of course you *could* use KDE, and
On Thursday 2008 November 27 23:38, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> when a config file has been changed locally, it's unable to merge the
> >> local change with the upstream change:
> >
> > There is no general way to do this. The system would have to fully
> > understand the config file and know all th
>> when a config file has been changed locally, it's unable to merge the
>> local change with the upstream change:
> There is no general way to do this. The system would have to fully
> understand the config file and know all the ways the changes could conflict
> and interfere.
Try to take the ne
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 01:39:41PM -0800, Angus Auld wrote:
> Of course you *could* use KDE, and that with a certainty would
> facilitate your keeping Gnome at bay. :)
Yeah, maybe I'll install it and try it out. It's been very long ago
that I tried it last time.
How do you use enlightenment as w
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 01:29:11PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> So the solution is to install and use KDE to keep gnome at bay? That
>
> No, the solution is:
> $ rm ~/.thumbnails/* ~/.cache
That's not a solution:
1/ It won't prevent the creation of new thumbnails.
2/ It doesn't implement any co
Stefan writes:
> when a config file has been changed locally, it's unable to merge the
> local change with the upstream change:
There is no general way to do this. The system would have to fully
understand the config file and know all the ways the changes could conflict
and interfere.
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>> If Debian were to use diff3 and other such revision-control-style tools,
>> it would not be nearly as hard. And it would behave better in the face
>> of local edits. And it would reduce the diff between the upstream and
>> the Debian version.
> I'm not sure I understand correctly, whom you me
> From: lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 6:06 PM
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 01:04:07AM -0800, Angus Auld wrote:
> > > Well, I just tried it. I can tu
Johannes Wiedersich writes:
> ...useful to keep track on who changed which config when and why (me
> vs. maintainer script...
The package-management system keeps track of that.
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Stefan Monnier wrote:
> If Debian were to use diff3 and other such revision-control-style tools,
> it would not be nearly as hard. And it would behave better in the face
> of local edits. And it would reduce the diff between the upstream and
> the De
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 18:25 -0600, lee wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 02:35:22PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>
> > 350 MB? I have not cleaned my thumbnails since early 2007 or so
> > and I had 1.6 GB.
>
> You probably have been using applications that create thumbnails more
> than I did. I'm us
On 11/27/08 12:06, lee wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 01:04:07AM -0800, Angus Auld wrote:
Well, I just tried it. I can turn off showing previews, but
that
doesn't mean that no thumbnails are created.
Still the dialog doesn't mention anything about
creating and even
caching thumbnails.
KDE ma
> Prior to your message, I didn't think anyone actually liked non-split
> configuration files for exim4 and apache.
I tend to find the many little files rather inconvenient since you can't
get the complete picture quite as easily.
> I guess it's a matter of taste, but monolithic files are certai
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 09:48, Florian Kulzer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 18:25:43 -0600, lee wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> So how do I find out which programs create these thumbnails?
>
> You can look at the existing thumbnails, the information should be in
> the metadata:
>
> for
On Wed, 2008.11.26, 331, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Wednesday 26 November 2008, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re:
> Erase cache, clean registry in Linux':
> >The tendency in Debian to split up configuration files --- like for
> >apache and exim4 -
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 01:37:37PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Wednesday 26 November 2008, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re:
> Erase cache, clean registry in Linux':
> >The tendency in Debian to split up configuration files --- like for
> >
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 06:48:41PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 18:25:43 -0600, lee wrote:
> > So how do I find out which programs create these thumbnails?
>
> for PIC in *; do identify -verbose "$PIC" | grep Software; done
Nice :) But I don't have the thumbnails anymor
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 01:04:07AM -0800, Angus Auld wrote:
> > Well, I just tried it. I can turn off showing previews, but
> > that
> > doesn't mean that no thumbnails are created.
> >
> > Still the dialog doesn't mention anything about
> > creating and even
> > caching thumbnails.
> >
> >
>
>
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 18:25:43 -0600, lee wrote:
[...]
> So how do I find out which programs create these thumbnails?
You can look at the existing thumbnails, the information should be in
the metadata:
for PIC in *; do identify -verbose "$PIC" | grep Software; done
Depending on how many thu
On Wed, 2008.11.26, 331, lee wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:40:38AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> > However, I am not that worried about it. Disk space is abundant and
> > cheap,
>
> Backing up the data is another problem. That isn't cheap, either, and
> it gets more expensive the more data y
On Tue, 2008.11.25, 330, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> Although I would argue that .thumbnails/ would be even better if it was
> moved into the XDG basedir standard location for cache, usually
> ~/.cache/
Yes, and all other user caches too! That helps tremendously when doing
synchronizing (like with un
> From: lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 8:41 AM
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:13:00AM +0100, Johan Grönqvist
> wrote:
> > lee skrev:
> >> O
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:13:00AM +0100, Johan Grönqvist wrote:
> lee skrev:
>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:46:29PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>> Hm, that is not a fix, it's a poor workaround. And when I start
>> nautilus and look at the preferences dialog, there is no mentioning of
>> caching thu
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:42:53PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> Windows NT 4, 2000 and XP (and I think ME, 98, 95 and NT 3) had
> a hidden file called thumbs.db in each folder that had images that
> had ever been displayed as thumbnails. Sometimes if you download
> peoples image dump rar files, y
lee skrev:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:46:29PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
Hm, that is not a fix, it's a poor workaround. And when I start
nautilus and look at the preferences dialog, there is no mentioning of
caching thumbnails whatsoever.
When I start nautilus and look at the preferences dia
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 19:09, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:46:29PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 16:25, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >You probably have been using applications that create thumbnails more
>> >than I did. I'm using some
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:46:29PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 16:25, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >You probably have been using applications that create thumbnails more
> >than I did. I'm using some gnome applications, but I'm not using
> >gnome ...
>
> I probably
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 16:25, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You probably have been using applications that create thumbnails more
>than I did. I'm using some gnome applications, but I'm not using
>gnome ...
I probably just have more pics than you. gthumb is probably the only
app I use regularl
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 07:26:42PM -0500, H.S. wrote:
> So my ~/.thumbnails is using 1.1 GB of memory. I am thinking of deleting
> this data unless there is some practical use for this. As others have
> posted, they do not really any different with or without this data so I
> am not sure whether t
Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 13:20, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Imho it's better to design software so that it doesn't waste
>> resources. I probably haven't used 99.99% of the 350MB thumbnails in
>> more than two years, but now I'm supposed to spend $500+ on getting
>> new
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 02:35:22PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> 350 MB? I have not cleaned my thumbnails since early 2007 or so
> and I had 1.6 GB.
You probably have been using applications that create thumbnails more
than I did. I'm using some gnome applications, but I'm not using
gnome ...
>
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 13:20, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:40:38AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:42, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > That shouldn't be there in the first place. You end up with hundreds
>> > of megabytes of totally usel
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:40:38AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:42, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That shouldn't be there in the first place. You end up with hundreds
> > of megabytes of totally useless thumbnails
>
> They are not useless, they keep thumbnail displ
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:57, Johannes Wiedersich
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> Kelly Clowers wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:42, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:09:27PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>>> That shoul
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Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:42, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:09:27PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>> That shouldn't be there in the first place. You end up with hundreds
>> of megabytes of totally us
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:42, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:09:27PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>
>> And a lot of programs (Dolphin, Nautilus, gthumb, eog, etc) have thumbnail
>> caches, which are not always cleanable from in the application. Luckily,
>> many of these
On Wednesday 26 November 2008, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re:
Erase cache, clean registry in Linux':
>The tendency in Debian to split up configuration files --- like for
>apache and exim4 --- and to spread them over several directories and
>to have the syste
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:07, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:56:51AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>
>> Still, the reg offers many opportunities for fun. Nothing like doing a deep
>> reg dive to manually remove tricky spyware - though it is probably better
>> to just do
lee writes:
> If that doesn't help, I'll change ownership to root, and if that doesn't
> help either, I might have to resort to enable ACLs or to making the
> directory a symlink to a partition that is mounted r/o
Just symlink ~/.thumbnails to /dev/null.
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On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:56:51AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> Still, the reg offers many opportunities for fun. Nothing like doing a deep
> reg dive to manually remove tricky spyware - though it is probably better
> to just do a reinstall in those cases.
They made the same mistake IBM did with
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:09:27PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> And a lot of programs (Dolphin, Nautilus, gthumb, eog, etc) have thumbnail
> caches, which are not always cleanable from in the application. Luckily,
> many of these programs now share the FD.O standard ~/.thumbnails/
> directory, i
Brian Marshall wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:35:58 +
Avi Greenbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kent West wrote:
>
Whereas there are some "cleaning" functions you can do, for the most
part, it's not something you'll need to worry about like you do in
Windows.
I think you might've meant ".
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 07:03, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Firefox and other apps may have their own caches; you'd clean them out
> just like you would in Firefox on Windows, via the menus in Firefox itself.
And a lot of programs (Dolphin, Nautilus, gthumb, eog, etc) have thumbnail
ca
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:09, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The thing to ask yourself is "what is the concern on windows that
> cleaning the register accomplishes, and is this an issue on Linux?".
> I haven't run windows since 3.1 (pre-internet) so I don't know anything
> about c
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 09:03:59AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Manuel Gomez wrote:
>
> >> 2008/11/25 Manuel Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Hi, i would like to know a tool or software to erase the
> >> cache, clean
> >> the registry...
>
> > I am thinking in "clean" Linux,
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:35:58 +
Avi Greenbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kent West wrote:
> >
> > Whereas there are some "cleaning" functions you can do, for the most
> > part, it's not something you'll need to worry about like you do in
> > Windows.
> >
>
> I think you might've meant "...f
On 11/25/08 08:56, subscriptions wrote:
On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 15:34 +0100, Manuel Gomez wrote:
Hi, i would like to know a tool or software to erase the cache, clean
the registry...
Somebody could help me?
Thank you very much, I appreciate your help.
from:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/quest
Kent West wrote:
>
Whereas there are some "cleaning" functions you can do, for the most
part, it's not something you'll need to worry about like you do in Windows.
I think you might've meant "...for the most part, it's _not_ something
you'll need to worry about..."
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Manuel Gomez wrote:
> I am thinking in "clean" Linux, i don't know how its done.
>
> Thank you very much for your help.
>
> El mar, 25-11-2008 a las 14:38 +, Sam Kuper escribió:
>
>> 2008/11/25 Manuel Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Hi, i would like to know a tool or software to erase t
On Tue, 2008-11-25 at 15:34 +0100, Manuel Gomez wrote:
> Hi, i would like to know a tool or software to erase the cache, clean
> the registry...
>
> Somebody could help me?
>
> Thank you very much, I appreciate your help.
>
from:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/flush-my-
Le Mar 25 novembre 2008 15:44, Richard Möhn a écrit :
> The good news: It's because there is no registry in Linux. (Or I have
> not ever heard of no registry nowhere in Linux, at least.)
gconf maybe ???
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I am thinking in "clean" Linux, i don't know how its done.
Thank you very much for your help.
El mar, 25-11-2008 a las 14:38 +, Sam Kuper escribió:
> 2008/11/25 Manuel Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi, i would like to know a tool or software to erase the
> cache, clean
>
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 03:34:36PM +0100, Manuel Gomez wrote:
> Hi, i would like to know a tool or software to erase the cache, clean
> the registry...
>
> Somebody could help me?
The bad news: No one can help you.
The good news: It's because there is no registry in Linux. (Or I have
not ever he
2008/11/25 Manuel Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi, i would like to know a tool or software to erase the cache, clean
> the registry...
'The registry'? What registry? Aren't you thinking of Windows?
Hi, i would like to know a tool or software to erase the cache, clean
the registry...
Somebody could help me?
Thank you very much, I appreciate your help.
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