Re: Unable to install GRUB in dummy

2025-04-05 Thread hlyg
Thank Wright! with more than 20 years of experience in installing and using debian, do i have to read installation guide? it is said that installing debian is as easy as pressing Enter it is dumb to report fatal error after all configuration and copying after 30 years of development, install

Re: Unable to install GRUB in dummy

2025-04-05 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Apr 01, 2025 at 04:09:31AM +0800, hlyg wrote: > > On 3/31/25 10:50, David Wright wrote: > > Presumably that error message was from the screen. Have you looked > > at /var/log/installer/syslog for more expansive error messages? > > > > Cheers, > > David. > > > Thank Wright! i have solved

Re: Unable to install GRUB in dummy

2025-04-05 Thread David Wright
On Sun 30 Mar 2025 at 11:50:52 (+0800), hlyg wrote: > i install with debian-12.10.0-amd64-netinst.iso > > during final stage of installation, it fails to install grub > > "Executing 'grub-install dummy' failed." > "This is a fatal error." > &g

Re: Unable to install GRUB in dummy

2025-04-05 Thread hlyg
On 4/1/25 05:20, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Make it simple for yourself. If you are at all unsure when you install, just take guided partitioning. That should set up a 512M partition for boot, a 1G partition for swap and the rest of the disk for / Unless you *really have* to partition things you

Re: Unable to install GRUB in dummy

2025-04-01 Thread hlyg
Thank Nikulin! i read wiki page you mention, it is too technical, as end user, i am not expected to worry such details it seems to me that efi isn't very mature at present it doesn't offer any benefits to me though it is superior to mbr

Re: Unable to install GRUB in dummy

2025-03-31 Thread David Wright
On Tue 01 Apr 2025 at 04:09:31 (+0800), hlyg wrote: > On 3/31/25 10:50, David Wright wrote: > > Presumably that error message was from the screen. Have you looked > > at /var/log/installer/syslog for more expansive error messages? > > > Thank Wright! i have solved it on my own > > i am new user o

Re: Unable to install GRUB in dummy

2025-03-31 Thread Max Nikulin
On 01/04/2025 03:09, hlyg wrote: in the end i use mbr, as one of my PCs doesn't support gpt It depends on firmware, but I expect that UEFI spec describes requirements for ESP in the case of MBR partitions. btw what is recommended size of efi partition? default size is 512M sgdisk(8)

Re: Unable to install GRUB in dummy

2025-03-31 Thread hlyg
On 3/31/25 10:50, David Wright wrote: Presumably that error message was from the screen. Have you looked at /var/log/installer/syslog for more expansive error messages? Cheers, David. Thank Wright! i have solved it on my own i am new user of gpt, fatal error is caused by my failure to creat

Unable to install GRUB in dummy

2025-03-29 Thread hlyg
i install with debian-12.10.0-amd64-netinst.iso during final stage of installation, it fails to install grub "Executing 'grub-install dummy' failed." "This is a fatal error." how to solve it? i bet it is caused by other bootloader in installation target disk

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Joe
On Wed, 8 May 2019 14:31:35 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > > And this is windows 10 HOME EDITION, so there is no place to "run as > admin" in the start menu's. > It can't join a domain, but otherwise there's not much difference in versions. > > Anyway, in Home Edition of W10, how the heck do yo

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Joe
On Wed, 8 May 2019 14:09:16 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > > I'm also well pleased that I'm not being chastised for winders here, > thank you very much for that. On the whole, Debian is for grown-ups, not the Linux nutters. I've earned a fair bit of money from Windows in the past, and I still ne

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 08 May 2019 04:55:47 am john doe wrote: > On 5/8/2019 10:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 08 May 2019 03:49:34 am Joe wrote: > >> On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400 > >> > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Greetings all; > >>> > >>> First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 08 May 2019 04:55:47 am john doe wrote: > On 5/8/2019 10:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 08 May 2019 03:49:34 am Joe wrote: > >> On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400 > >> > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Greetings all; > >>> > >>> First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-05-08, Gene Heskett wrote: > > That is a laborius process, taking at least 10x what any of my linux > machines need to reboot. From powerup to login was at least 15 minutes. > > And I have been to that utility, but it has no place to disable ipv6 as a > whole, has lots of names in the me

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread john doe
On 5/8/2019 10:24 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 08 May 2019 03:49:34 am Joe wrote: > >> On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400 >> >> Gene Heskett wrote: >>> Greetings all; >>> >>> First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. >>> It sure wants to hook up to all the neighborhood

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Joe
On Wed, 8 May 2019 03:55:03 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > > That is a laborius process, taking at least 10x what any of my linux > machines need to reboot. From powerup to login was at least 15 > minutes. Very definitely not right. Maybe it feels outnumbered... > > And I have been to that uti

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 08 May 2019 03:49:34 am Joe wrote: > On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. > > It sure wants to hook up to all the neighborhoods wifi, all of which > > are secured. > > Second

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread mick crane
On 2019-05-08 08:55, Gene Heskett wrote: That is a laborius process, taking at least 10x what any of my linux machines need to reboot. From powerup to login was at least 15 minutes. And I have been to that utility, but it has no place to disable ipv6 as a whole, has lots of names in the menu I

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 08 May 2019 02:16:29 am mick crane wrote: > On 2019-05-07 23:47, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. > > > > > > Cheers, Gene (I need some winders help ) Heskett > > usually bottom left corner click windows icon

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread Joe
On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:50 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. > It sure wants to hook up to all the neighborhoods wifi, all of which > are secured. > Second, its like stretch seems locked to ipv6 but its ipv4 for at > lea

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-08 Thread tomas
On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 07:16:29AM +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2019-05-07 23:47, Gene Heskett wrote: > >Greetings all; > > > >First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. > > > > >Cheers, Gene (I need some winders help ) Heskett > > usually bottom left corner click windows icon

Re: Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-07 Thread mick crane
On 2019-05-07 23:47, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. Cheers, Gene (I need some winders help ) Heskett usually bottom left corner click windows icon click the settings that looks like a cog select Ethernet / Change adapter opt

Help, windows dummy has bought one. I need it for a job or 100

2019-05-07 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; First it doesn't have a clue what to do with a wired network. It sure wants to hook up to all the neighborhoods wifi, all of which are secured. Second, its like stretch seems locked to ipv6 but its ipv4 for at least a hundred miles in any direction from my 10-20 in North Central

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-26 Thread deloptes
Johann Spies wrote: > I had the same experience.  What solved it for me was to edit > /etc/default/timidity so that timidity does not run as daemon. > > That freed my audio-devices. Me too, but the question is how we make timidity work with alsa or pulse, without blocking alsa. I would like to

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-26 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 26/06/18 07:00 AM, Kent West wrote: This morning I removed "timidity" from the "audio" group, and rebooted. All seems well for me, but then, I don't use Timidity (to my knowledge - don't really know what it is). I do notice that a "ps ax | grep timidity" does not return anything. Try grep -

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-26 Thread Curt
On 2018-06-26, Kent West wrote: >> > This morning I removed "timidity" from the "audio" group, and rebooted. All > seems well for me, but then, I don't use Timidity (to my knowledge - don't > really know what it is). I do notice that a "ps ax | grep timidity" does > not return anything. > Seems l

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-26 Thread Johann Spies
On 26 June 2018 at 16:00, Kent West wrote: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Borden Rhodes > wrote: >> >> > In my case. "timidity" was causing my problem. Within X, I did a "sudo >> > kill >> >> Yessir. The timidity update on 19 June messed up my sound, too. After >> a frustrating few hours of

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-26 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 09:00:16 -0500 Kent West wrote: Hello Kent, >seems well for me, but then, I don't use Timidity (to my knowledge - >don't really know what it is). A MIDI/MOD file player. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediat

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-26 Thread Kent West
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Borden Rhodes wrote: > > In my case. "timidity" was causing my problem. Within X, I did a "sudo > kill > > timidity", and immediately my Volume control on the pane of KDE's Plasma > > desktop changed, and the volume control slider produced test clicks. I > > tried

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-26 Thread Borden Rhodes
> In my case. "timidity" was causing my problem. Within X, I did a "sudo kill > timidity", and immediately my Volume control on the pane of KDE's Plasma > desktop changed, and the volume control slider produced test clicks. I > tried purging timidity, but it seems to want to take half of KDE with i

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread deloptes
Kent West wrote: > When I run "aplay -L | grep default", for root I get: > > default:CARD=PCH > sysdefault:CARD=PCH > > For a normal user I get: > > default > sysdefault:CARD=PCH on my stretch box I run aplay -L | grep default default sysdefault:CARD=PCH so it does not seem to be user/root i

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
Got it! (Partially. Will finish getting it tomorrow, maybe.) >From https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1517726: Found the issue with great support. > > Code: > > echo autospawn = no >> ~/.pulse/client.conf > > killall pulseaudio > > LANG=C pulseaudio - > ~/pulseverbose.log 2>&1 >

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
I've spent two days on this, and have tried everything I can find and think of. Very frustrating. On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Kent West wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Kent West wrote: > >> In a TTY (no X), "alsa-bat -P default" plays a tone for root, and no >> sound for a no

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Kent West wrote: > In a TTY (no X), "alsa-bat -P default" plays a tone for root, and no sound > for a normal user. > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Kent West wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Kent West wrote: >> >>> >>> > So audio works for

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
In a TTY (no X), "alsa-bat -P default" plays a tone for root, and no sound for a normal user. On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Kent West wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Kent West wrote: > >> >> > So audio works for root, but not for my normal user (even after being added

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Kent West wrote: > > > So audio works for root, but not for my normal user (even after being >>> added >>> > to the "audio" group). >> >> I just ran "cat syslog | grep alsa" and got this: systemd-udevd[413]: Process '/usr/sbin/alsactl -E HOME=/run/alsa restore

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Kent West wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 10:57 AM, Brian wrote: > >> On Mon 25 Jun 2018 at 09:58:29 -0500, Kent West wrote: >> >> >> > So audio works for root, but not for my normal user (even after being >> added >> > to the "audio" group). >> >> > > In t

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
sues, but still have no audio when I log > into > > X as a normal user (or at least as my normal user; now that I think about > > it, I'll try as a different normal user as soon as I get this email sent > > off). > > > > In both X11/Cinnamon and X11/Plasma D

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Brian
ser; now that I think about > it, I'll try as a different normal user as soon as I get this email sent > off). > > In both X11/Cinnamon and X11/Plasma Desktop, the audio button on the panel > shows "Dummy Output" as the audio device when I log into X as my normal > us

Re: Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
a different normal user > as soon as I get this email sent off). > I tried a different user, and that user also has no audio. > In both X11/Cinnamon and X11/Plasma Desktop, the audio button on the panel > shows "Dummy Output" as the audio device when I log into X as my normal

Audio - Dummy Output, except for root

2018-06-25 Thread Kent West
l sent off). In both X11/Cinnamon and X11/Plasma Desktop, the audio button on the panel shows "Dummy Output" as the audio device when I log into X as my normal user. I added my user to the "audio" group and logged out/in and tried again; no change. I then Ctrl-Alt-F1'd to TT1, log

Re: OT Big Dummy mutt question

2017-04-23 Thread songbird
Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Sun, 23 Apr 2017, songbird wrote: > >> i'm using the version of mutt in testing/stretch >> and can say that i have no setting in .muttrc at >> all and it just works. > > I tried the "no setting in .muttrc" and that did the trick. > > Which strikes me as sorta weird, but t

Re: OT Big Dummy mutt question

2017-04-23 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017, songbird wrote: i'm using the version of mutt in testing/stretch and can say that i have no setting in .muttrc at all and it just works. I tried the "no setting in .muttrc" and that did the trick. Which strikes me as sorta weird, but then, with so much weirdness around

Re: OT Big Dummy mutt question

2017-04-23 Thread songbird
Bob Bernstein wrote: > Mutt (1.5.23) is rebuffing my every attempt to get ispell > working. Currently I have in .muttrc: > > set ispell="ispell --mode=email" > > This threw no error when mutt launched, so it was with high > spirits that I tried to send off deliberately misspelled emails. > Alas

Re: OT Big Dummy mutt question

2017-04-23 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017, David Wright wrote: According to my key bindings, you should press i when in the compose menu [...] Yes, my 'help' there also shows i associated with ispell. But pressing i only causes the screen to blip very momentarily without showing any ispell activity and then retur

Re: OT Big Dummy mutt question

2017-04-23 Thread David Wright
On Sun 23 Apr 2017 at 19:47:49 (-0400), Bob Bernstein wrote: > Mutt (1.5.23) is rebuffing my every attempt to get ispell working. > Currently I have in .muttrc: > > set ispell="ispell --mode=email" > > This threw no error when mutt launched, so it was with high spirits > that I tried to send off

OT Big Dummy mutt question

2017-04-23 Thread Bob Bernstein
Mutt (1.5.23) is rebuffing my every attempt to get ispell working. Currently I have in .muttrc: set ispell="ispell --mode=email" This threw no error when mutt launched, so it was with high spirits that I tried to send off deliberately misspelled emails. Alas and alack. these arrived at their

Re: Using the result of equivs (dummy package for dependencies)

2016-09-12 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 at 00:25, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2016-09-11 at 11:13, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > So I've used the equivs-control and equivs-build commands from the > > equivs package to create a dummy package which has all the needed > > dependencies. My proble

Re: Using the result of equivs (dummy package for dependencies)

2016-09-11 Thread The Wanderer
On 2016-09-11 at 11:13, Mark Fletcher wrote: > So I've used the equivs-control and equivs-build commands from the > equivs package to create a dummy package which has all the needed > dependencies. My problem is I can't do anything with the created > package -- I obvi

Using the result of equivs (dummy package for dependencies)

2016-09-11 Thread Mark Fletcher
o figure out that it could remove them, and hence what to do to resolve the dependencies. So, this time, I want to avoid that, and I had the idea to create a dummy package that has all the dependencies that Danger From The Deep needs. Then, I can install that package and have aptitude install the

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-15 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-15, Curt wrote: > On 2016-06-15, Lisi Reisz wrote: >>> https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct >>> >>> L'arroseuse arrosée. >> >> >> This is, or was, dead. And it was part of an email about the main part of >> the >> thread. By the way, you don't get to say when a thre

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-15 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-15, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct >> >> L'arroseuse arrosée. > > > This is, or was, dead. And it was part of an email about the main part of > the > thread. You violated the CoC while accusing him of violating the CoC. > Why contaminate

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-15 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 15 June 2016 08:41:25 Curt wrote: > On 2016-06-12, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > It would be a lot easier if you didn't keep sending me personal copies. > > If you want to complain to someone who sent you a carbon copy when you > did not ask for it, do it privately. > > https://www.debian.o

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-15 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-12, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > It would be a lot easier if you didn't keep sending me personal copies. > If you want to complain to someone who sent you a carbon copy when you did not ask for it, do it privately. https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct L'arroseuse arrosée.

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-14 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 09:06:14PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote: [...] > Hey tomas! You are always welcome! > There is no issue in here for your commests. Just take this as my personal opinion. Others may disagree. In any case thank you very

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-14 Thread cbannister
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 06:36:53PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Le sextidi 26 prairial, an CCXXIV, Morten Bo Johansen a écrit : > > Since you are using Mutt, all you need to do to be well behaved > > (i.e. not send personal CCs) is to hit 'L' when you reply > > As I already explained twice, a so

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 2:17 AM Morten Bo Johansen wrote: > On 2016-06-13 Nicolas George wrote: > > > As I already explained twice, a solution that requires a > > different action when it is a mailing-list and when it is not > > is not an acceptable solution. > > Why not? Don't you know when you

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 13 June 2016 12:39:31 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 13 June 2016 17:36:53 Nicolas George wrote: > > Solution 2: A makes the moderate punctual effort to configure the > > MUA to set the header correctly and directly reaps the benefits. > > > > Stated like that, it is pretty much a no-brai

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Morten Bo Johansen
On 2016-06-13 Nicolas George wrote: > As I already explained twice, a solution that requires a > different action when it is a mailing-list and when it is not > is not an acceptable solution. Why not? Don't you know when you are corresponding on a mailing list or not? You only need to switch betw

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 13 June 2016 17:36:53 Nicolas George wrote: > Solution 2: A makes the moderate punctual effort to configure the MUA to > set the header correctly and directly reaps the benefits. > > Stated like that, it is pretty much a no-brainer. Except that you are continuing to refuse to explain sol

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Nicolas George
Le sextidi 26 prairial, an CCXXIV, Morten Bo Johansen a écrit : > Since you are using Mutt, all you need to do to be well behaved > (i.e. not send personal CCs) is to hit 'L' when you reply As I already explained twice, a solution that requires a different action when it is a mailing-list and when

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Morten Bo Johansen
On 2016-06-13 Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : >> I expect you to conform to the CoC and not continue to reply to me >> personally. > > Nobody can be expected to remember the personal preferences of each > mailing-list member, nor the subscription s

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 13 June 2016 15:17:19 Nicolas George wrote: > Le sextidi 26 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > I appreciate that. Thank you. But it isn't just my personal > > preferences, it is part of the CoC: > > And the mail headers state differently. Given contradictory directives, I > e

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Nicolas George
Le sextidi 26 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > I appreciate that. Thank you. But it isn't just my personal preferences, it > is part of the CoC: And the mail headers state differently. Given contradictory directives, I explained in my previous mail why the only sane solution is to ad

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 09:34:06PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > On 2016년 6월 13일 오후 8시 52분 49초 GMT+09:00, Lisi Reisz > wrote: > >On Monday 13 June 2016 10:57:05 Nicolas George wrote: > >> [...] > >"When replying to messages on the mailing lis

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 13 June 2016 10:57:05 Nicolas George wrote: > This time only, as a particular courtesy, I have edited manually the list > of recipients to adhere to your personal preferences. I appreciate that. Thank you. But it isn't just my personal preferences, it is part of the CoC: "When replyi

Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

2016-06-13 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > I expect you to conform to the CoC and not continue to reply to me personally. Nobody can be expected to remember the personal preferences of each mailing-list member, nor the subscription status of all contributors, and more importantly n

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 13 June 2016 01:31:10 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 18:09:52 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 12 June 2016 20:08:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > A single 'q', and all hell took off and bombed my system, leaving > > > only that which was in memory & running. It did not accept an

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 18:09:52 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 20:08:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > > A single 'q', and all hell took off and bombed my system, leaving > > only that which was in memory & running. It did not accept another > > q, nor a ctl+c. Bad dog, no dinner. > > So you op

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 23:19:27 Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > Yes, OK. But it was the topic that I was answering to, not the > > individual. I was trying to keep the thread rational -- possibly > > unsuccessfully. > > You replied to my messag

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > Yes, OK. But it was the topic that I was answering to, not the individual. > I > was trying to keep the thread rational -- possibly unsuccessfully. You replied to my message, quoted it and did not include any explanation, what did yo

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 23:10:13 Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > The thread was about running xterm inside a DE by all sorts of > > complicated methods instead of simply clicking a couple of buttons in > > Konsole-Trinity! > > My message was about

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 20:08:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > A single 'q', and all hell took off and bombed my system, leaving only > that which was in memory & running. It did not accept another q, nor a > ctl+c. Bad dog, no dinner. So you opened a terminal and typed: $ q and all hell let loose?? Come

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > The thread was about running xterm inside a DE by all sorts of complicated > methods instead of simply clicking a couple of buttons in Konsole-Trinity! My message was about the font selection in XTerm (and most Xt-based applications), not

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 20:15:08 Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > > If you go for medium or large font sizes, then using -fa / faceName and > > > an Xft name instead of -fn / font for an X11 fot is probably a good > > > idea: it gives anti-aliasing

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Bob Holtzman
> xterm *does* have a configuration menu, it's just hidden behind a rather > obscure (and painfully "vintage X11") UI gesture. (Control + right-drag). Works like a charm except that the changes aren't persistent. -- Bob Holtzman A man is a man who will fight with a sword or conquer Mt. Everest i

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 15:43:53 Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 14:19 (UTC-0400): > > Felix Miata wrote: > >> What's wrong with MC's editor running in Konsole? > > > > That, in case you haven't noticed, is in fact nano. > > How would I know what it is "in fact" on your sys

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 14:19 (UTC-0400): Felix Miata wrote: What's wrong with MC's editor running in Konsole? That, in case you haven't noticed, is in fact nano. How would I know what it is "in fact" on your system :-? It isn't Nano here: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/mc4817config.

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > If you go for medium or large font sizes, then using -fa / faceName and an > > Xft name instead of -fn / font for an X11 fot is probably a good idea: it > > gives anti-aliasing and the choice of fonts nowadays is slightly larger. > > > >

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 15:45:51 Nicolas George wrote: > Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Siard a écrit : > > xterm*VT100.font: -efont-fixed-medium-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* > > If you go for medium or large font sizes, then using -fa / faceName and an > Xft name instead of -fn / font for an

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 12:55:18 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 17:42:51 Gene Heskett wrote: > > not that I've found, but the sob is tearing down my system down even > > as I gave it a q after looking at a list of packages it wants to > > remove. If I cannot control it, it will NEVER be

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Michael Lange
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:19:49 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 12:54:36 Felix Miata wrote: > > > Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 12:42 (UTC-0400): > > > I am left with nano as the only editor I can find... > > > > > > So, it has emasculated my system, all the editors except

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 12:54:36 Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 12:42 (UTC-0400): > > I am left with nano as the only editor I can find... > > > > So, it has emasculated my system, all the editors except nano are > > gone, > > What's wrong with MC's editor running in Konso

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Curt a écrit : > I believe ~/.Xdefaults is what they call deprecated and ~/.Xresources > should be used. > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/x_resources It is a bit more complicated than that. ~/.Xresources is loaded into the resources database of the X11

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-12, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> You did 'xrdb ~/.Xresources' to reread the file after making the >> changes? > > No, it assumed it was read when needed. Funny. > Cheers, Gene Heskett -- Hypertext--or should I say the ideology of hypertext?--is ultrademocratic and so entirely in harmo

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 17:42:51 Gene Heskett wrote: > not that I've found, but the sob is tearing down my system down even as I > gave it a q after looking at a list of packages it wants to remove. If I > cannot control it, it will NEVER be used here again.  It will take days > to re-install the st

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2016-06-12 12:42 (UTC-0400): I am left with nano as the only editor I can find... So, it has emasculated my system, all the editors except nano are gone, What's wrong with MC's editor running in Konsole? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant w

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 12:23:48 Curt wrote: > On 2016-06-12, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> XTerm.font: 9x15 > >> > >> into your ~/.Xresources file. > > > > Did that, no change. What did make it usable was checking the use > > trutype fonts box. That made the font about 4x bigger so I was able > > to

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 11:43:05 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 16:18:18 Gene Heskett wrote: > > with aptitude, like mc, whatever terminal its running IN, MUST DO > > ncurses emulations.  And that is compulsory! > > Gene, that is rubbish. aptitude at the CLI is just that. At the CLI.

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Siard
Curt: > Siard: > > Besides that, settings can be entered in ~/.Xdefaults. I have these > > lines in it: > > I believe ~/.Xdefaults is what they call deprecated and ~/.Xresources > should be used. > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/x_resources ~/.Xresources does not work here (Stretch); ~/.

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-12, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> XTerm.font: 9x15 >> >> into your ~/.Xresources file. > > Did that, no change. What did make it usable was checking the use trutype > fonts box. That made the font about 4x bigger so I was able to set that > back to middle sized. > You did 'xrdb ~/.Xreso

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 10:27:54 Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:17:42 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > FWIW. there is a 3rd choice in the system menu, called UXTerm. Looks > > identical to xterm, totally non-configurable like xterm. So thats > > more wasted hd space to me.

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-12, Siard wrote: > > Besides that, settings can be entered in ~/.Xdefaults. I have these > lines in it: > I believe ~/.Xdefaults is what they call deprecated and ~/.Xresources should be used. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/x_resources -- Hypertext--or should I say the ideolog

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Curt
On 2016-06-12, Michael Lange wrote: > > actually it is not that hard to configure xterm (or other "old-fashioned" > terminal apps), for example to change xterm's font size simply put a line > like > > XTerm.font: 9x15 > > into your ~/.Xresources file. > > Best regards > > Michael > > I have the f

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 16:18:18 Gene Heskett wrote: > with aptitude, like mc, whatever terminal its running IN, MUST DO ncurses > emulations.  And that is compulsory! Gene, that is rubbish. aptitude at the CLI is just that. At the CLI. Like any other CLI command. The n-curses interface is vol

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 10:27:03 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 15:17:42 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Konsole can also be made usable I believe. The std "schema" needs a > > few changes to its current defaults but it can be made quite usable, > > so its a possible alternative. > > > > Regard

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
It may depend on the version of apt-get. Version 1.2.13 has apt-get purge avahi-daemon Regards, jvp.

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 June 2016 09:49:11 Martin Read wrote: [...] > xterm *does* have a configuration menu, it's just hidden behind a > rather obscure (and painfully "vintage X11") UI gesture. (Control + > right-drag). Here, its ctrl(left, didn't try right) and what pops up doesn't need a drag, but its 3

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 June 2016 15:37:17 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 12 June 2016 06:08:54 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 12 June 2016 01:49:27 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > 2 > > > firefox > > > firefox-esr > > > And esr is a version 45 something, figuratively speaking, a few > > > months long in the toot

Re: Big dummy at work again

2016-06-12 Thread Nicolas George
Le quintidi 25 prairial, an CCXXIV, Siard a écrit : > xterm*VT100.font: -efont-fixed-medium-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* If you go for medium or large font sizes, then using -fa / faceName and an Xft name instead of -fn / font for an X11 fot is probably a good idea: it gives anti-aliasing and th

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