Re: https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles

2025-05-04 Thread David Wright
On Sat 19 Apr 2025 at 11:40:52 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 08:12:02 -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > In https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles the sixth paragraph states, "You > > should therefore always have command source ~/.bashrc at the end of &g

Re: https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles

2025-05-04 Thread peter
From: George at Clug Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 23:55:22 +1000 > Please excuse my ignorance, but how did you manage to get the folder > "/home/root/" when running "ls ~/.bash_profile" as root? > > To my knowledge root's home directory should be /root, not > /home/root. Ref. https://lists.d

Re: https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles

2025-05-04 Thread peter
From: Greg Wooledge Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:40:52 -0400 > Just FYI, that page is essentially an older version of > <https://mywiki.wooledge.org/DotFiles>. Thanks. A much better document. Jonathan added a link to it. https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles > If you wan

Re: https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles

2025-04-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
people get the best content without duplication of effort. If anyone has opinions on that course of action, the discussion page is the place to share them: <https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles/Discussion>. I won't delete the page if there's unresolved objections, and I'll wait

Re: https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles

2025-04-20 Thread David Wright
On Sun 20 Apr 2025 at 23:55:22 (+1000), George at Clug wrote: > On Sunday, 20-04-2025 at 01:12 pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > Debian 12 here, obtained by upgrading Debian 11. > > > > In https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles the sixth paragraph states, "You > > shou

Re: https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles

2025-04-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/04/2025 10:37, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 10:32:37 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: P.S. DotFiles does not mention that PATH may be set through /etc/login.defs. I don't think this is true; it changed in Debian 10 when the shadow-utils suite was dropped in favor of util-

Re: https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles

2025-04-20 Thread George at Clug
On Sunday, 20-04-2025 at 01:12 pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Hi, > > Debian 12 here, obtained by upgrading Debian 11. > > In https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles the sixth paragraph states, "You > should therefore always have command source ~/.bashrc at the end of > your

Re: https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles

2025-04-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 10:32:37 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > P.S. DotFiles does not mention that PATH may be set through /etc/login.defs. I don't think this is true; it changed in Debian 10 when the shadow-utils suite was dropped in favor of util-linux. hobbit:~$ man login.defs [.

Re: https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles

2025-04-19 Thread Max Nikulin
On 19/04/2025 22:12, peter wrote: In https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles the sixth paragraph states, "You should therefore always have command source ~/.bashrc at the end of your .bash_profile in order to force it to be read by a login shell." # ls ~/.bash_profile ls: cannot access &

Re: https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles

2025-04-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 18:34:07 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > Aside, with my "concerned about content licensing hat on"; and I note the > paragraph on your wiki's front page. You are the principal but not sole > author of the page on your site, I see; do you have a view on what license > you co

Re: https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles

2025-04-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
My advice to OP would be: first of all, before considering improving the page, is it worth keeping? Does it offer value? Second, I encourage you to discuss suggestions on a wiki Discussion page. I've added a link for one to the DotFiles page, it points here: https://wiki.debian.org/Dot

Re: https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles

2025-04-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 08:12:02 -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > In https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles the sixth paragraph states, "You > should therefore always have command source ~/.bashrc at the end of > your .bash_profile in order to force it to be read by a login shell.&qu

https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles

2025-04-19 Thread peter
Hi, Debian 12 here, obtained by upgrading Debian 11. In https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles the sixth paragraph states, "You should therefore always have command source ~/.bashrc at the end of your .bash_profile in order to force it to be read by a login shell." # ls ~/.bash_profile

Re: Dotfiles

2013-08-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 23:20:31 -0400, shawn wilson wrote: > The point about mentioning browsers is that you don't generally look > there. The other point about browsers is that when I look at my home directory with firefox, the dotfiles take up most of the visual space. -- hendr

Re: Dotfiles

2013-08-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 23:55:38 +0100, Chris Davies wrote: > Slavko wrote: >> Dňa 02.07.2013 23:32 John Hasler wrote / napísal(a): >>> Look at the access times. Dotfiles that have not been accessed in >>> years can probably be safely removed. > >> Sure, b

Re: Dotfiles

2013-08-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 03:12:40 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 01:08:05AM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 16:06:17 -0500, Yaro Yaro wrote: >> >> > Package managers don't track .dotfiles. >> >> No, they don&#x

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-04 Thread Chris Davies
Slavko wrote: > Dňa 02.07.2013 23:32 John Hasler wrote / napísal(a): >> Look at the access times. Dotfiles that have not been accessed in years >> can probably be safely removed. > Sure, but do not forget, that the "relatime" (default one) and "noatime" >

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-04 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-07-03 00:43:39 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 19:02:08 -0400, shawn wilson wrote: > > > Y'all are really taking all of the fun out of this. > > > > Here's the point - this is an exercise. There is no good reason to do > > this. What, you've got a 10 meg disk that is at 9

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-03 Thread Slavko
Dňa 02.07.2013 23:32 John Hasler wrote / napísal(a): > Look at the access times. dotfiles that have not been accessed in years > can probably be safely removed. > Sure, but do not forget, that the "relatime" (default one) and "noatime" mount options are going into

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 01:08:05AM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 16:06:17 -0500, Yaro Yaro wrote: > > > Package managers don't track .dotfiles. > > No, they don't. That, of course, is part of the problem. Ummm, no it isn't. It is a serious b

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread shawn wilson
if I do delete it and decide I want it again). So, yep, I've got more dotfiles than regular files in my home directory, but somehow I fail to care. % find ~/ -maxdepth 1 -iname "[a-z0-9]*" | wc -l 50 % find ~/ -maxdepth 1 -iname ".*" | wc -l 77 But if someone can tell me

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 16:06:17 -0500, Yaro Yaro wrote: > Package managers don't track .dotfiles. No, they don't. That, of course, is part of the problem. But it would be useful if packages were to have a standard format for declaring what dotfiles the package is in charge of. Much

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 19:02:08 -0400, shawn wilson wrote: > Y'all are really taking all of the fun out of this. > > Here's the point - this is an exercise. There is no good reason to do > this. What, you've got a 10 meg disk that is at 95%? Well, if you pay > shipping, I've got a extra 40 meg that

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Joel Rees
>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Lisi Reisz > wrote: > >> > On Tuesday 02 July 2013 22:06:17 Yaro Yaro wrote: > >> >> On Jul 2, 2013 3:49 PM, "Hendrik Boom" > wrote: > >> >> > There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering my home direct

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread shawn wilson
6:28 AM, shawn wilson wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> > On Tuesday 02 July 2013 22:06:17 Yaro Yaro wrote: >> >> On Jul 2, 2013 3:49 PM, "Hendrik Boom" wrote: >> >> > There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering m

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:28 AM, shawn wilson wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 July 2013 22:06:17 Yaro Yaro wrote: > >> On Jul 2, 2013 3:49 PM, "Hendrik Boom" wrote: > >> > There are lots of .dotfiles clutte

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> > >> >> And which ones are obsolete -- the user equivalent of configuration >> files, which are properly tracked by the package manager? > > > The violence option? As in, mv all the .files t

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread John Hasler
Look at the access times. dotfiles that have not been accessed in years can probably be safely removed. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 02 July 2013 22:06:17 Yaro Yaro wrote: >> On Jul 2, 2013 3:49 PM, "Hendrik Boom" wrote: >> > There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering my home directory. >> > >> > No doubt some of them ar

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering my home directory. > > No doubt some of them are useful. > > Many, though, are probably remnants of packages of years past -- packages > I installed long ago, no longer need, and ha

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 02 July 2013 22:06:17 Yaro Yaro wrote: > On Jul 2, 2013 3:49 PM, "Hendrik Boom" wrote: > > There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering my home directory. > > > > No doubt some of them are useful. > > > > Many, though, are probably remnants

Re: Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Yaro Yaro
Package managers don't track .dotfiles. Those are created at runtime by your software. On Jul 2, 2013 3:49 PM, "Hendrik Boom" wrote: > There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering my home directory. > > No doubt some of them are useful. > > Many, though, are probably remn

Dotfiles

2013-07-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
There are lots of .dotfiles cluttering my home directory. No doubt some of them are useful. Many, though, are probably remnants of packages of years past -- packages I installed long ago, no longer need, and have removed. Is there any way of identifying which packages are using which dotfiles

Re: what bash dotfiles are read during interactive ssh?

2004-04-20 Thread CW Harris
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 07:27:06AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > What file can one put "unalias ls", or anything in fact, in for it to > get read on the remote system upon interactive ssh? .bashrc, > .bash_profile are apparently not read. On mine it executes .bash_profile (normal login shell). Ac

what bash dotfiles are read during interactive ssh?

2004-04-19 Thread Dan Jacobson
What file can one put "unalias ls", or anything in fact, in for it to get read on the remote system upon interactive ssh? .bashrc, .bash_profile are apparently not read. At most I can do now is $ ssh porky.simonds.net porky$ unalias ls I don't want the dotfile read on batch jobs preferably. --

Re: Sharing dotfiles between diverse accounts

2001-12-14 Thread Seth Delackner
On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 12:51:32PM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: > You can try Coda filesystem; http://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu. It seems a lot of people are thinking about sharing .dot files this week. I asked this same sort of question on the NYLUG list and someone said Coda was seriously unfinished and sugge

Re: Sharing dotfiles between diverse accounts

2001-12-13 Thread Brian Nelson
David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have about four completely different login accounts that I use > regularly. They may as well be in separate universes; one is on my > laptop, for example, while another will let me log in on most of the > machines on the main MIT campus (with a fairly

Re: Sharing dotfiles between diverse accounts

2001-12-13 Thread Peter Billson
> > This seems like a common enough problem that anybody sufficiently > > geeky (say, who has a Debian machine at home and some Unixy machine > > at work/school) would have run into it. Are there any pre-canned, > > or at least not-too-groady home-baked solutions out there? How about: run an rsyn

Re: Sharing dotfiles between diverse accounts

2001-12-12 Thread Oki DZ
of course, it goes without saying that > people who aren't me shouldn't be able to modify the dotfiles.) Hmm... you'd need to setup the server machine for the Coda server; well, you can ask (beg) the sysadmin. Oki

Re: Sharing dotfiles between diverse accounts

2001-12-12 Thread nate
ut 35 debian systems, 4 of which i use heavily daily(the rest are mostly dedicated servers). and i run another 20 sun sparc solaris systems/ibm aix/tru64 etc. maybe im not geeky enough but my dotfiles are always empty. about the only thing i keep in sync is my ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file. i modify the

Sharing dotfiles between diverse accounts

2001-12-12 Thread David Z Maze
trol over my work machine than I'd like. And, of course, it goes without saying that people who aren't me shouldn't be able to modify the dotfiles.) TIA... -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell