Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 10:03:30PM -0500, Jim Hyslop wrote: > OK, this latest discussion about logging in as root got me thinking. I'm > fairly new to Linux. Occasionally, when I need to set up something (as > an example, my recent DNS questions) I will need to edit a config file, > and restart th

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-23 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 07:49:30PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Tyler MacDonald wrote: > > Have you put a password on your bootloader (GRUB, etc) to restrict changing > > the boot parameters? > The same applies to the bios. Otherwise someone could just switch off > the machine, enter a knop

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-22 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Tyler MacDonald wrote: > Have you put a password on your bootloader (GRUB, etc) to restrict changing > the boot parameters? > > Otherwise, you can simply edit the boot parameters, and add something like > "S init=/bin/bash" to the end to drop yourself right into a root shell on > boot. The same a

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-22 Thread Dave Ewart
On Monday, 22.01.2007 at 10:39 -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > Dave Ewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is actually what is done, yes. > > > > And, in addition, the safe is only accessible to restricted > > individuals. Having said that, none of the restricted individuals > > (apart from m

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-22 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Dave Ewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is actually what is done, yes. > > And, in addition, the safe is only accessible to restricted individuals. > Having said that, none of the restricted individuals (apart from me) > would know what to do with the root password anyway ... > > All a matte

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-22 Thread Dave Ewart
On Monday, 22.01.2007 at 09:31 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > You might be trustworthy not to walk away from a logged-in console and > not install stupid stuff, but is he? Well, the console is in a locked-room and only available to a small number of people. In the event of my untimely demise, I bel

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-22 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 10:31:39PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > * If the need arises use a method to allow "limited privileges" in > a granular way. I use "sudo" it allows one to give "user > creation" without giving the keys to the machine to the person > or helpdesk

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/22/07 09:14, Dave Ewart wrote: > On Monday, 22.01.2007 at 07:51 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 01/22/07 04:07, Dave Ewart wrote: >>> On Sunday, 21.01.2007 at 22:03 -0500, Jim Hyslop wrote: >>> >> [snip] [snip] >> The first thing that pops in

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-22 Thread Dave Ewart
On Monday, 22.01.2007 at 09:11 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:07:19AM +, Dave Ewart wrote: > > as root. The system is never used in a non-root context. > > Therefore, to manage this system I set up no further users other > > than root, and install my SSH key in

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-22 Thread Dave Ewart
On Monday, 22.01.2007 at 07:51 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/22/07 04:07, Dave Ewart wrote: > > On Sunday, 21.01.2007 at 22:03 -0500, Jim Hyslop wrote: > > > [snip] > > The above example flies in the face of the usual advice, but that's > > because the circumstances are different and possibly

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-22 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:07:19AM +, Dave Ewart wrote: > as root. The system is never used in a non-root context. Therefore, to > manage this system I set up no further users other than root, and > install my SSH key in root's account, then reconfigure SSHd to allow > root logins via key onl

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-22 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/22/07 04:07, Dave Ewart wrote: > On Sunday, 21.01.2007 at 22:03 -0500, Jim Hyslop wrote: > [snip] > The above example flies in the face of the usual advice, but that's > because the circumstances are different and possibly rather extreme. I > d

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-22 Thread John Hasler
Ron Johnson writes: > Are there any auditing packages, which record every program > registered in the audit system, for every user registered in the > audit system? Package: acct Priority: optional Section: admin Installed-Size: 368 Maintainer: Daniel Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Architecture: i386

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-22 Thread Dave Ewart
On Sunday, 21.01.2007 at 22:03 -0500, Jim Hyslop wrote: > OK, this latest discussion about logging in as root got me thinking. > I'm fairly new to Linux. Occasionally, when I need to set up something > (as an example, my recent DNS questions) I will need to edit a config > file, and restart the da

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/21/07 21:31, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 22:03 -0500, Jim Hyslop wrote: >> [snip] > It is really all about accountability or being able to track who > did what when. To track problems caused by administration errors, > or to trac

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/21/07 21:03, Jim Hyslop wrote: > OK, this latest discussion about logging in as root got me thinking. I'm > fairly new to Linux. Occasionally, when I need to set up something (as > an example, my recent DNS questions) I will need to edit a confi

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-21 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 22:03 -0500, Jim Hyslop wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > OK, this latest discussion about logging in as root got me thinking. I'm > fairly new to Linux. Occasionally, when I need to set up something (as > an example, my recent DNS questions) I wil

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-21 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > You want sudo. Ah, very nice - thanks for the tip. - -- Jim Hyslop Dreampossible: Better software. Simply. http://www.dreampossible.ca Consulting * Mentoring * Training in C/C++ * OOD * SW Devel

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-21 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 10:03:30PM -0500, Jim Hyslop wrote: > OK, this latest discussion about logging in as root got me thinking. I'm > fairly new to Linux. Occasionally, when I need to set up something (as > an example, my recent DNS questions) I will need to edit a config file, > and restart th

Doing administrative work

2007-01-21 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, this latest discussion about logging in as root got me thinking. I'm fairly new to Linux. Occasionally, when I need to set up something (as an example, my recent DNS questions) I will need to edit a config file, and restart the daemon. I usually s