Re: A regression bug comparing Stretch to Jessie -was [Re: Doing a clean install with ATYPICAL constraints]

2017-05-13 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: > songbird wrote: ... >> FTR there are recent bugs which sound similar >> and discussion on the development and release >> lists which talk about mariadb and the current >> upgrade situation. > > Were you thinking of something in addition to > debian-release, debian-devel, a

Re: A regression bug comparing Stretch to Jessie -was [Re: Doing a clean install with ATYPICAL constraints]

2017-05-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/13/2017 10:58 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: ... Not quite in the manner I suspect you assume . We come from different point-of-views. You evidently lean towards "power user". I have some characteristics of "mass market consumer". The points you listed appear likely to lead to

Re: A regression bug comparing Stretch to Jessie -was [Re: Doing a clean install with ATYPICAL constraints]

2017-05-13 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: ... > Not quite in the manner I suspect you assume . > We come from different point-of-views. > You evidently lean towards "power user". > I have some characteristics of "mass market consumer". > > The points you listed appear likely to lead to alleviation of my > observed _s

Re: A regression bug comparing Stretch to Jessie -was [Re: Doing a clean install with ATYPICAL constraints]

2017-05-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/13/2017 07:46 AM, Brian wrote: On Sat 13 May 2017 at 07:32:52 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/12/2017 04:09 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 02:46:13PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/12/2017 12:40 PM, deloptes wrot

Re: A regression bug comparing Stretch to Jessie -was [Re: Doing a clean install with ATYPICAL constraints]

2017-05-13 Thread Brian
On Sat 13 May 2017 at 07:32:52 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/12/2017 04:09 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 02:46:13PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>On 05/12/2017 12:40 PM, deloptes wrote: > > > >[...] > > > >>

Re: A regression bug comparing Stretch to Jessie -was [Re: Doing a clean install with ATYPICAL constraints]

2017-05-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/12/2017 04:09 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 02:46:13PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/12/2017 12:40 PM, deloptes wrote: [...] It took me a while to realize there is difference from MySQL perspective if you use loc

Re: A regression bug comparing Stretch to Jessie -was [Re: Doing a clean install with ATYPICAL constraints]

2017-05-12 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 02:46:13PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/12/2017 12:40 PM, deloptes wrote: [...] > >It took me a while to realize there is difference from MySQL perspective if > >you use localhost and 127.0.0.1. "localhost" goes via un

Re: A regression bug comparing Stretch to Jessie -was [Re: Doing a clean install with ATYPICAL constraints]

2017-05-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/12/2017 12:40 PM, deloptes wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/12/2017 02:57 AM, Brian wrote: On Thu 11 May 2017 at 21:54:57 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Working from purchased DVDs of Debian Stretch (8.6.0) I did a minimal install (MATE desktop + standard utilities) to a fresh partitio

Re: A regression bug comparing Stretch to Jessie -was [Re: Doing a clean install with ATYPICAL constraints]

2017-05-12 Thread deloptes
Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/12/2017 02:57 AM, Brian wrote: >> On Thu 11 May 2017 at 21:54:57 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >>> Working from purchased DVDs of Debian Stretch (8.6.0) I did a minimal >>> install (MATE desktop + standard utilities) to a fresh partition. >>> I then did >>>apt-g

Re: A regression bug comparing Stretch to Jessie -was [Re: Doing a clean install with ATYPICAL constraints]

2017-05-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/12/2017 02:57 AM, Brian wrote: On Thu 11 May 2017 at 21:54:57 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Working from purchased DVDs of Debian Stretch (8.6.0) I did a minimal install (MATE desktop + standard utilities) to a fresh partition. I then did apt-get install apache2 apt-get install maria

Re: A regression bug comparing Stretch to Jessie -was [Re: Doing a clean install with ATYPICAL constraints]

2017-05-12 Thread Brian
On Thu 11 May 2017 at 21:54:57 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Working from purchased DVDs of Debian Stretch (8.6.0) I did a minimal > install (MATE desktop + standard utilities) to a fresh partition. > I then did >apt-get install apache2 >apt-get install mariadb-server > > On completion o

A regression bug comparing Stretch to Jessie -was [Re: Doing a clean install with ATYPICAL constraints]

2017-05-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/11/2017 12:50 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm having problems with initial use of mariadb on Debian Testing. The *apparent* symptom is never being asked to provide an initial password an failure in creating one later. Operator error is high on list of possible causes ;/ However, >50 of troub

Re: Doing a clean install with ATYPICAL constraints

2017-05-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/11/2017 02:15 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 08:12:29PM +0100, Joe wrote: OK, it looks like I'm wrong, and the Debian packaging of mariadb is *not* a drop-in replacement for mysql, at least from a clean installation. I was sort of under the impression that Debian had cha

Re: Doing a clean install with ATYPICAL constraints

2017-05-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 08:12:29PM +0100, Joe wrote: > OK, it looks like I'm wrong, and the Debian packaging of mariadb is > *not* a drop-in replacement for mysql, at least from a clean > installation. > > I was sort of under the impression that Debian had changed horses to > mariadb, and managed

Re: Doing a clean install with ATYPICAL constraints

2017-05-11 Thread Joe
On Thu, 11 May 2017 12:50:07 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm having problems with initial use of mariadb on Debian Testing. > The *apparent* symptom is never being asked to provide an initial > password an failure in creating one later. > OK, it looks like I'm wrong, and the Debian packaging

Doing a clean install with ATYPICAL constraints

2017-05-11 Thread Richard Owlett
I'm having problems with initial use of mariadb on Debian Testing. The *apparent* symptom is never being asked to provide an initial password an failure in creating one later. Operator error is high on list of possible causes ;/ However, >50 of trouble shooting experience hints at more. I've a