Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 02 iul 19, 08:02:22, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2019-07-01 at 03:47, Curt wrote: > > > > https://www.debian.org/releases///buster/s390x/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#migrate-interface-names > > I'm skeptical as to whether this is (still/currently) accurate. This was fixed in the mean

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-06 Thread Richard Hector
On 2/07/19 9:13 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 01 July 2019 19:42:08 David Wright wrote: > >> On Mon 01 Jul 2019 at 15:56:14 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: >>> On Monday 01 July 2019 09:33:35 David Wright wrote: On Mon 01 Jul 2019 at 06:05:52 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: >>> Whole filesys

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread Geoff
The Wanderer wrote: On 2019-07-02 at 10:10, Curt wrote: On 2019-07-02, The Wanderer wrote: Not even that, it seems (no longer affects systemd). Have you confirmed that? It seems possible that on a systemd machine, things in other packages (such as whatever would provide that 99-default.lin

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread Brian
On Tue 02 Jul 2019 at 10:22:56 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2019-07-02 at 10:10, Curt wrote: > > > On 2019-07-02, The Wanderer wrote: > > > >>> Not even that, it seems (no longer affects systemd). > >> > >> Have you confirmed that? It seems possible that on a systemd > >> machine, things in

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-07-02 at 10:10, Curt wrote: > On 2019-07-02, The Wanderer wrote: > >>> Not even that, it seems (no longer affects systemd). >> >> Have you confirmed that? It seems possible that on a systemd >> machine, things in other packages (such as whatever would provide >> that 99-default.link fil

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-02, The Wanderer wrote: >> Not even that, it seems (no longer affects systemd). > > Have you confirmed that? It seems possible that on a systemd machine, > things in other packages (such as whatever would provide that > 99-default.link file, which unfortunately - because it's under /et

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-07-02 at 09:10, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 08:51:10AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2019-07-02 at 08:37, Curt wrote: >> >>> Not even that, it seems (no longer affects systemd). >> >> Have you confirmed that? > > I'm using systemd, and the 70-* file was used whe

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 08:51:10AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2019-07-02 at 08:37, Curt wrote: > > Not even that, it seems (no longer affects systemd). > > Have you confirmed that? I'm using systemd, and the 70-* file was used when I upgraded to buster, but that was roughly 2 months ago. I

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-07-02 at 08:37, Curt wrote: > On 2019-07-02, The Wanderer wrote: >> /usr/share/doc/udev/README.Debian.gz has a section on the subject >> of migration from the old naming scheme to the new one. Although it >> does not seem to state as much explicitly, from that section (and >> other parts

Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-02, The Wanderer wrote: >> https://www.debian.org/releases///buster/s390x/release-notes/ch-informa= > tion.en.html#migrate-interface-names > > (Any particular reason you linked to the s390x version of the release > notes? It seems to match e.g. the amd64 one for this purpose, so it > s

70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster)

2019-07-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 2019-07-01 at 03:47, Curt wrote: > Another, less serious, gotcha for those inveterate upgraders and > newbies who don't read the release notes is that > '/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules' is no longer a valid > mechanism for defining device names. This mechanism (automagically) > pe

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 July 2019 19:42:08 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 01 Jul 2019 at 15:56:14 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 01 July 2019 09:33:35 David Wright wrote: > > > On Mon 01 Jul 2019 at 06:05:52 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 01 July 2019 03:52:55 Jonathan Dowland wrote

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread David Wright
On Mon 01 Jul 2019 at 15:56:14 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 01 July 2019 09:33:35 David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 01 Jul 2019 at 06:05:52 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 01 July 2019 03:52:55 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 12:45:57PM -0400, Gene Hesk

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 03:56:14PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Whole filesystem encryption would be a total non-starter for me. File by file with different passwd's according to whats in the file would make far more sense to me. Thats my $0.02. In which case none of cryptsetup/luks/dm-crypt, ec

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 July 2019 09:33:35 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 01 Jul 2019 at 06:05:52 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 01 July 2019 03:52:55 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 12:45:57PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > >At this point, I'd call it a buster delaying bug.

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 July 2019 09:14:07 Curt wrote: > On 2019-07-01, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 01 July 2019 03:52:55 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 12:45:57PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> >At this point, I'd call it a buster delaying bug. That last is > >> > going to cos

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-01, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> > >> > For whatever it's worth, when I upgraded this machine from stretch to >> > buster a couple months ago, it continued using eth0 as the interface >> > name without any immediately obvious issues. I did the conversion to >> > "predictable interface names

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 02:15:50PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-07-01, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 07:47:35AM -, Curt wrote: > >> Another, less serious, gotcha for those inveterate upgraders and newbies > >> who don't read the release notes is that > >> '/etc/udev/rules.d/

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-01, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 07:47:35AM -, Curt wrote: >> Another, less serious, gotcha for those inveterate upgraders and newbies >> who don't read the release notes is that >> '/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules' is no longer a valid >> mechanism for d

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 07:47:35AM -, Curt wrote: > Another, less serious, gotcha for those inveterate upgraders and newbies > who don't read the release notes is that > '/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules' is no longer a valid > mechanism for defining device names. For whatever it's wo

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-01, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 01:14:07PM -, Curt wrote: >>The second triad of NUMBER % RANK columns corresponds to the number of people >>using the package regularly* and by that metric ecryptfs-utils beats encfs by >>a >>relative long shot (1066 to 630, 0.5

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 01:14:07PM -, Curt wrote: The second triad of NUMBER % RANK columns corresponds to the number of people using the package regularly* and by that metric ecryptfs-utils beats encfs by a relative long shot (1066 to 630, 0.58% to 0.34%). "relative" to what? That's what t

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 08:33:35AM -0500, David Wright wrote: The grey area is for me is the relative benefit of encrypting file by file compared with the whole partition. Assuming that there's just one passphrase involved in each scenario, is more protection given by the former method? After all

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread David Wright
On Mon 01 Jul 2019 at 06:05:52 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 01 July 2019 03:52:55 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 12:45:57PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >At this point, I'd call it a buster delaying bug. That last is going > > > to cost too many that can't ignore

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-01, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 01 July 2019 03:52:55 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 12:45:57PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >At this point, I'd call it a buster delaying bug. That last is going >> > to cost too many that can't ignore it and don't have unencr

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 July 2019 03:52:55 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 12:45:57PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >At this point, I'd call it a buster delaying bug. That last is going > > to cost too many that can't ignore it and don't have unencrypted > > backups. Thats going to be a lot

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 12:45:57PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: At this point, I'd call it a buster delaying bug. That last is going to cost too many that can't ignore it and don't have unencrypted backups. Thats going to be a lot of very bad PR. It's the release teams call, generally speaking,

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-30, Andrea Borgia wrote: > Il 30/06/19 11:52, Curt ha scritto: > >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=928956 >> >> Due to #765854 ecryptfs-utils has been removed from Buster. >> The kernel module (ecryptfs.ko) is still built but depending on the >> upgrade path us

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-06-30 Thread deloptes
Tixy wrote: > Or if you have (or can make) a new disk partition, use dm-crypt to > encrypt that and put the file system on that that people want encrypted > (for /home?). > > Personally, for several releases I've used dm-crypt with LUKS for a > partiton containing everything apart from /boot. (Do

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-06-30 Thread Tixy
On Sun, 2019-06-30 at 18:17 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > Andrea Borgia wrote: > > Il 30/06/19 11:52, Curt ha scritto: > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=928956 > > > > > > Due to #765854 ecryptfs-utils has been removed from Buster. > > > The kernel module (ecryptfs.ko) is

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-06-30 Thread Andrea Borgia
Il 30/06/19 18:17, Sven Hartge ha scritto: Other than that: Reinstalling the system with full disk encryption or just copying the files from the ecryptfs and then removing it are the only real other options. I'll explore f.d.e. for the laptop, I guess the desktop can live just fine with a pl

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-06-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 30 June 2019 12:17:48 Sven Hartge wrote: > Andrea Borgia wrote: > > Il 30/06/19 11:52, Curt ha scritto: > >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=928956 > >> > >> Due to #765854 ecryptfs-utils has been removed from Buster. > >> The kernel module (ecryptfs.ko) is still b

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-06-30 Thread Sven Hartge
Andrea Borgia wrote: > Il 30/06/19 11:52, Curt ha scritto: >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=928956 >> >> Due to #765854 ecryptfs-utils has been removed from Buster. >> The kernel module (ecryptfs.ko) is still built but depending on the >> upgrade path users will be unab

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-06-30 Thread Andrea Borgia
Il 30/06/19 11:52, Curt ha scritto: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=928956 Due to #765854 ecryptfs-utils has been removed from Buster. The kernel module (ecryptfs.ko) is still built but depending on the upgrade path users will be unable to mount their encrypted home di

Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-06-30 Thread Curt
I was preparing an upgrade to Buster until I saw this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=928956 Due to #765854 ecryptfs-utils has been removed from Buster. The kernel module (ecryptfs.ko) is still built but depending on the upgrade path users will be unable to mount their encr