On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 11:14, ScruLoose wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 03:52:08AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Given that I live alone with a cat, I still lock my desktop when I walk
> > > away for any length of time, set xscreensa
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 03:52:08 -0400 (EDT), <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned:
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>
>>
>> Given that I live alone with a cat, I still lock my desktop when I walk
>> away for any length of time, set xscreensaver to cut in (and lock) anyway,
>> and
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 03:52:08AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>
> >
> > Given that I live alone with a cat, I still lock my desktop when I walk
> > away for any length of time, set xscreensaver to cut in (and lock)
> > anyway, and require a passwor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Karsten M. Self wrote:
Given that I live alone with a cat, I still lock my desktop when I walk
away for any length of time, set xscreensaver to cut in (and lock)
anyway, and require a password for 'sudo' on my personal account.
Hi Karsten,
you must hav
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>
> Given that I live alone with a cat, I still lock my desktop when I walk
> away for any length of time, set xscreensaver to cut in (and lock)
> anyway, and require a password for 'sudo' on my personal account.
>
Hi Karsten,
you must have one smart cat
on Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:25:50PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:42:28AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > E.g.: there are _good_, _solid_ reasons Debian doesn't allow Mozilla to
> > run as root, why X11 TCP connections are disabled by default, and
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Benedict Verheyen wrote:
>
> I think that a lot of users tend to switch to using root because they
> cannot achieve simple tasks with their "normal" user. For instance
> writing cd's. It would help if there is a doc that explains how users
> can best set up their system to a
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 08:48, Benedict Verheyen wrote:
[snip]
> I think that a lot of users tend to switch to using root because they
> cannot achieve simple tasks with their "normal" user. For instance
> writing cd's. It would help if there is a doc that explains how users
You mentioned sudo. Pau
>> I don't know but this seems like overkill. Does mounting home noexec
>> mean that I can't run programs for /home/.
>
>Yep, that's what it means. Things located in the partition mounted at
>/home are not allowed to be executed (though it can be bypassed)
>
>> What about at school. They
>> don't
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 11:21:39PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
>
> I don't know but this seems like overkill. Does mounting home noexec
> mean that I can't run programs for /home/.
Yep, that's what it means. Things located in the partition mounted at
/home are not allowed to be executed (thoug
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:39:50PM -0400, ScruLoose wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:27:48PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> > ScruLoose writes:
>
> > > But at least you _can_ mount /home noexec, and in many circumstances
> > > that'll be a perfectly practicable solution... :P
> >
> > It's not a c
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:27:48PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> ScruLoose writes:
> > But at least you _can_ mount /home noexec, and in many circumstances
> > that'll be a perfectly practicable solution... :P
>
> It's not a complete solution. It's just another layer of defense.
This is entirel
ScruLoose writes:
> But at least you _can_ mount /home noexec, and in many circumstances
> that'll be a perfectly practicable solution... :P
It's not a complete solution. It's just another layer of defense.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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To
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:04:48PM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote:
> Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > In fact, just this week, I am engaged with a prominent software
> > development company, and every one of the developers develops on
> > various Linux boxen, and every one of them ins
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:42:28AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> E.g.: there are _good_, _solid_ reasons Debian doesn't allow Mozilla to
> run as root, why X11 TCP connections are disabled by default, and why
> SSH is strongly recommended. Yes, it's possible to override or ignore
> these settin
on Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 01:36:06PM -0500, Michael D Schleif ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:02:04:44:28-0500] scribed:
> > On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 23:17, ScruLoose wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:56:07PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote:
> > > > "Karsten M.
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 3 October 2003 8:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Debian-User
> Subject: Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses
>
>
> "Jamin W. Collins" wrote:
> > ..&q
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 17:59:34 -0400, Daniel B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned:
> "Jamin W. Collins" wrote:
>> .."
>>
>> Aye, but you do have backups right? Are your backup locations
>> accessible as mounted file systems where your user has ready read/write
>> access to them? I would certainly hope no
Alan Shutko wrote:
>
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> ...
> > And a click-thru virus (or is it really a trojan?) can only do
> > damage to files that you have privs to touch (unless there's a bug
> > in Java or JavaScript).
>
> ... But just saying "A virus
> can't hurt a user unless i
"Jamin W. Collins" wrote:
> .."
>
> Aye, but you do have backups right? Are your backup locations
> accessible as mounted file systems where your user has ready read/write
> access to them? I would certainly hope not.
Do you backups every day? Every minute? Every instant?
If not, the user'
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> How can an email virus work on *ix?
How does it work on Windows? Either convince the user to click on a
link, or exploit a bug in the MUA. When it has code running, scan
the user's address book and mail archives, and send out lots of
email. Include you
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 03:24:21PM -0500, Ray wrote:
>
> i personally have not seen an email virus work on *ix, but as far as
> damage, you normally don't need full root access to destroy a box for
> a user. after all, most people keep their work in places that they
> can work on them (read+write
On Thursday 02 October 2003 15:07, Ron Johnson wrote:
> How can an email virus work on *ix?
>
> And a click-thru virus (or is it really a trojan?) can only do
> damage to files that you have privs to touch (unless there's a bug
> in Java or JavaScript).
>
i personally have not seen an email virus
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 14:04, Alan Shutko wrote:
> Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > In fact, just this week, I am engaged with a prominent software
> > development company, and every one of the developers develops on
> > various Linux boxen, and every one of them insists on runni
Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In fact, just this week, I am engaged with a prominent software
> development company, and every one of the developers develops on
> various Linux boxen, and every one of them insists on running as root.
Could you name names, so we know which imbeci
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:02:04:44:28-0500] scribed:
> On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 23:17, ScruLoose wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:56:07PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote:
> > > "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:02:00:37:35+0100] scribed:
> [snip]
> > > That kind of exec
On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 23:17, ScruLoose wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:56:07PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote:
> > "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:02:00:37:35+0100] scribed:
[snip]
> > That kind of executable -- one that entices a user to click on it -- is
> > just as real a thre
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