On Fri, 25 May 2018 15:48:07 -0500 David Wright said:
> On Fri 25 May 2018 at 11:19:58 (+0200), Miroslav Skoric wrote:
>> On 05/21/2018 03:55 PM, David Wright wrote:
>>
>>> As for appendix C in the Installation Manual, well that looks like
>>> a bit of a joke: who's running linux in 256MB memory
On Fri 25 May 2018 at 11:19:58 (+0200), Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> On 05/21/2018 03:55 PM, David Wright wrote:
>
> >As for appendix C in the Installation Manual, well that looks like
> >a bit of a joke: who's running linux in 256MB memory, let alone 16MB?
> >
>
> One of my older machines still runs
Le 25/05/2018 à 02:23, Mark Copper a écrit :
One little bump: some bug requiring a
little empty space separating logical partitions)
It's not a bug, it's a feature of the extended partition layout.
In short, each logical partition inside an extended partition must be
preceded by an extended
On 05/21/2018 03:55 PM, David Wright wrote:
As for appendix C in the Installation Manual, well that looks like
a bit of a joke: who's running linux in 256MB memory, let alone 16MB?
One of my older machines still runs Wheezy LTS in 224 MB RAM. And soon I
am going to try an upgrade to Jessie.
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Pascal Hambourg
wrote:
Le 21/05/2018 à 18:14, Mark Copper a écrit :
>
>> On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 3:19 AM, Pascal Hambourg
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Le 18/05/2018 à 02:05, Mark Copper a écrit :
>>>
>>> You will have to move/delete and re-create the swap too.
>>> Gparted a
On 2018-05-22, Jerome Kutche wrote:
> Curious .. Why do I get two of every posting. What setting do I need to
> change.. Thanks Jerry
>
This might conceivably be poetic justice for top-posting and
thread-hijacking.
> Curious .. Why do I get two of every posting. What setting do I need to
> change.. Thanks Jerry
Search for the "Skip every other posting" option.
Stefan
Curious .. Why do I get two of every posting. What setting do I need to
change.. Thanks Jerry
On 5/22/2018 2:29 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
Le 22/05/2018 à 00:12, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu a écrit :
On Mon, 21 May 2018 23:18:50 +0200 Pascal Hambourg said:
Le 21/05/2018 à 22:09, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu
Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>> For example?
>
> Any operational requirement which prohibits unplanned downtime caused by
> a disk failure. Do I really need to write such obviousness ? Call it
> "mission critical" if you like.
>
>> As I have said previously, swap mirroring can be plausible for a missi
Le 22/05/2018 à 20:55, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu a écrit :
On Tue, 22 May 2018 20:29:21 +0200 Pascal Hambourg said:
I understand that your use case does not require swap redundancy.
I hope that you also understand that other people may have stronger
requirements,
For example?
Any operational req
On 23/05/18 06:29, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> I understand that your use case does not require swap redundancy.
> I hope that you also understand that other people may have stronger
> requirements and your statement about swap mirroring was wrong for them,
> thus wrong in general (what is not always
Le 22/05/2018 à 00:12, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu a écrit :
On Mon, 21 May 2018 23:18:50 +0200 Pascal Hambourg said:
Le 21/05/2018 à 22:09, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu a écrit :
I would agree mirroring swap for a mission critical server. Otherwise it
would be an overkill, IMO.
If one of the non-mirrored
Le 21/05/2018 à 22:09, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu a écrit :
On Mon, 21 May 2018 21:48:33 +0200 Pascal Hambourg said:
The purpose of RAID 1 is to provide redundancy and availability, not
performance.
What do you think happens to a running system when one half of the swap
suddenly becomes unavailable a
Le 21/05/2018 à 21:03, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu a écrit :
Forgot to add that in a raid-1 setup swap partition*s* should not be mirrored.
Of course they should be mirrored in RAID 1 too. Otherwise it defeats
the purpose of RAID 1.
There should be 2 separate non-mirrored swap partitions, one on
Le 21/05/2018 à 18:52, Mark Copper a écrit :
The release notes even give detailed instructions as to how you might mount
bind (or is bind mount?) a usb key as a temporary /var/cache/apt/archives
directory.
That's an intriguing idea. I'll look. Thanks.
There is plenty of free space in /home
Le 21/05/2018 à 18:14, Mark Copper a écrit :
On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 3:19 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
Le 18/05/2018 à 02:05, Mark Copper a écrit :
You will have to move/delete and re-create the swap too.
Gparted allows to resize and move an unused partition. Better have a backup
though.
yes,
>
> The release notes even give detailed instructions as to how you might mount
> bind (or is bind mount?) a usb key as a temporary /var/cache/apt/archives
> directory.
>
That's an intriguing idea. I'll look. Thanks.
On 2018-05-21, Mark Copper wrote:
>
> No, I had not considered playing with any part of /var. With /var
> taking less than 1 gb and /var/cache/apt/archives less than 1mb, /usr
> had seemed the elephant in the room. Might that be a way to go? I just
> need to get to Stretch for now.
There's actual
On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 3:19 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 18/05/2018 à 02:05, Mark Copper a écrit :
>>>
>>>
There was a day when a 10 gb partition seemed like plenty of space to
leave
for the system but now it's not. An upgrade to Stretch appears to need
more.
>
>
> How do y
On Mon 21 May 2018 at 05:50:27 (+), Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 07:59:48PM -0400, songbird wrote:
> > Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> > > Then LVM is your friend. You can create as many logical volumes as you
> > > like with minimal sizes and easily extend them when needed
Yep. I ended up buying a second disk and moving everything around. The
installation is awful.
On Mon, May 21, 2018, 3:13 PM Pascal Hambourg
wrote:
> Le 21/05/2018 à 10:26, Curt a écrit :
> >
> > Verily in the installer I chose automatic partitioning because of my
> > partitioning phobia many moo
Le 21/05/2018 à 10:26, Curt a écrit :
Verily in the installer I chose automatic partitioning because of my
partitioning phobia many moons ago and was allotted a 9G '/' and a 1.4T
'home' (as well as swap the size of my ego)
(...)
(A recent thread seemed to imply that the installer's automagical
On Mon, 21 May 2018 08:26:01 + (UTC)
Curt wrote:
> On 2018-05-21, Andy Smith wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 07:59:48PM -0400, songbird wrote:
> >> Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> >> > Then LVM is your friend. You can create as many logical volumes
> >> > as you like with mini
On 2018-05-21, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 07:59:48PM -0400, songbird wrote:
>> Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>> > Then LVM is your friend. You can create as many logical volumes as you
>> > like with minimal sizes and easily extend them when needed. This way you
>> > don't w
Hello,
On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 07:59:48PM -0400, songbird wrote:
> Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> > Then LVM is your friend. You can create as many logical volumes as you
> > like with minimal sizes and easily extend them when needed. This way you
> > don't waste space in overprovisioning.
>
> adde
On 21/05/18 02:19, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> LVM greatly simplifies the partitioning part of the chore. But you still need
> to do the content management part[*] before shrinking / after enlarging an LV,
> don't you?
>
> [*] backup, umount/swapoff, resize2fs/mkswap, mount/swapon, (unlikely but
Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 20/05/2018 à 14:33, songbird a écrit :
>>
>>in my last system i had many different partitions like that but
>> with the new system i decided that was wasting too much space and
>
> Then LVM is your friend. You can create as many logical volumes as you
> like with m
Le 20/05/2018 à 21:34, Reco a écrit :
On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 08:48:05PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
Le 20/05/2018 à 17:23, Reco a écrit :
On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 10:30:26AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
lvextend --resizefs ...
will work without you needing to unmount the file-system
On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 08:48:05PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 20/05/2018 à 17:23, Reco a écrit :
> >
> > On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 10:30:26AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > >
> > > lvextend --resizefs ...
> > >
> > > will work without you needing to unmount the file-system.
> >
> >
Le 20/05/2018 à 17:23, Reco a écrit :
On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 10:30:26AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
lvextend --resizefs ...
will work without you needing to unmount the file-system.
You forgot to add 'unless you try to shrink the filesystem, or still use
reiserfs'.
Or use btrfs whi
Le 20/05/2018 à 16:19, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu a écrit :
On Sun, 20 May 2018 15:03:37 +0200 Pascal Hambourg said:
Le 20/05/2018 à 14:33, songbird a écrit :
in my last system i had many different partitions like that but
with the new system i decided that was wasting too much space and
Then LVM
Hi.
On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 10:30:26AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > [*] backup, umount/swapoff, resize2fs/mkswap, mount/swapon, (unlikely but
> > possibly: restore)
>
> lvextend --resizefs ...
>
> will work without you needing to unmount the file-system.
You forgot to add 'unles
> [*] backup, umount/swapoff, resize2fs/mkswap, mount/swapon, (unlikely but
> possibly: restore)
lvextend --resizefs ...
will work without you needing to unmount the file-system.
Stefan
On Sun, 20 May 2018 15:03:37 +0200 Pascal Hambourg said:
> Le 20/05/2018 à 14:33, songbird a écrit :
>>
>>in my last system i had many different partitions like that but
>> with the new system i decided that was wasting too much space and
>
> Then LVM is your friend. You can create as many
Le 20/05/2018 à 14:33, songbird a écrit :
in my last system i had many different partitions like that but
with the new system i decided that was wasting too much space and
Then LVM is your friend. You can create as many logical volumes as you
like with minimal sizes and easily extend them
Charlie S wrote:
> On Sat, 19 May 2018 09:16:43 -0500 ntrfug sent:
>
>> More than 20 years ago I began saving personal files to a different
>> partition than the OS.
>>
>> I've used this system for Windows (when I started) and for more
>> flavors of Linux than I can remember. I did this so I could
Le 18/05/2018 à 02:05, Mark Copper a écrit :
There was a day when a 10 gb partition seemed like plenty of space to leave
for the system but now it's not. An upgrade to Stretch appears to need more.
How do you know ?
Device BootStart End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sda1 *
On Sat, 19 May 2018 09:16:43 -0500 ntrfug sent:
> More than 20 years ago I began saving personal files to a different
> partition than the OS.
>
> I've used this system for Windows (when I started) and for more
> flavors of Linux than I can remember. I did this so I could wipe the
> root partitio
On Thu, 17 May 2018 18:06:46 -0500
Mark Copper wrote:
> This must be a FAQ. But there appear to be two ways forward.
>
> 1. Back-up /home, enlarge / partition, copy back-up back to new,
> smaller /home partition (because /home will then start on a different
> cylinder so data will be lost).
>
>
Hello,
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 04:00:45AM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote:
> Contrary to Andy’s recommendation, though, I would also
> put swap on LVM — if only just to simplify things when I do find
> myself needing to adjust it
Well, OK. But…
Should I need more swap then I don't really find adding an
On May 17, 2018, at 6:19 PM, Andy Smith wrote:
> If using multiple partitions per disk, consider using LVM in future
> as otherwise this sort of thing nearly always becomes a chore.
I strongly second the recommendation to use LVM wherever possible. It greatly
simplifies the process of re-sizi
Mark Copper composed on 2018-05-17 18:06 (UTC-0500):
> There was a day when a 10 gb partition seemed like plenty of space to leave
> for the system but now it's not. An upgrade to Stretch appears to need more.
...
> What have other people done?
My largest Stretch root partition is 5.6GB. One or m
Hi,
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 06:06:46PM -0500, Mark Copper wrote:
[sda1 root partition got too small; extended partition on sda2 fills
remainder of disk]
> This must be a FAQ. But there appear to be two ways forward.
>
> 1. Back-up /home, enlarge / partition, copy back-up back to new, smaller
>
On Thu, 17 May 2018 18:06:46 -0500 Mark Copper said:
[ ---8<--- ]
> This must be a FAQ. But there appear to be two ways forward.
>
> 1. Back-up /home, enlarge / partition, copy back-up back to new, smaller
> /home partition (because /home will then start on a different cylinder so
> data will be
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 6:32 PM, bw wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 17 May 2018, Mark Copper wrote:
>
> > There was a day when a 10 gb partition seemed like plenty of space to
> leave
> > for the system but now it's not. An upgrade to Stretch appears to need
> more.
> >
> > ~# fdisk -l
> >
> > Disk /dev/sda
There was a day when a 10 gb partition seemed like plenty of space to leave
for the system but now it's not. An upgrade to Stretch appears to need more.
~# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 149.1 GiB, 160041885696 bytes, 312581808 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical)
Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:27:54 + Magnus Therning
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 02:13:51AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:59:08 +0100 Florian Kulzer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Joey Hess wrote:
Florian Kulzer wrote:
I wo
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 08:47:01AM +1100, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote:
>Magnus Therning wrote:
>
>>On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 04:39:01AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>
>>> Where is the list of installed packages kept on
>>>these systems, if I can store a list I can make a script out of it and
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:27:54 +
Magnus Therning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 02:13:51AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:59:08 +0100
> >Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Joey Hess wrote:
> >> > Florian Kulzer wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>I
Magnus Therning wrote:
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 04:39:01AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
Where is the list of installed packages kept on
these systems, if I can store a list I can make a script out of it and
more quickly return to where I was if a cd reinstall is necessary using
that script to
At 1142354731, Thomas Jollans wrote:
> If not, this is a good time to make coffee unless your
> internet connection is based on *insert super fast
> technology that is used by no debian mirror here*
My commercial ISP hosts a debian mirror so I get blazing
speeds at home: and I work at a UK Univ
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 04:39:01AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>First thanks much for the steps for doing this upgrade. So far as I
>can tell, it's not possible to rebuild gnome with all the accessibility
>bits included without first being on an unstable distro first. Second
>the Xwindows interfa
Jude DaShiell wrote:
[...]
Where is the list of installed packages kept on
these systems, if I can store a list I can make a script out of it and
more quickly return to where I was if a cd reinstall is necessary using
that script to download the missing packages? I think
First thanks much for the steps for doing this upgrade. So far as I can
tell, it's not possible to rebuild gnome with all the accessibility bits
included without first being on an unstable distro first. Second the
Xwindows interface once I get it talking may enable multimedia access
conssole
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 02:13:51AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:59:08 +0100
>Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Joey Hess wrote:
>> > Florian Kulzer wrote:
>> >
>> >>I would go so far as to say that "Debian Unstable" is an oxymoron.
>> >
>> >
>> > From WordNet
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:45:31 +0100
Thomas Jollans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
because SID breakes. period. you must know what yu are doing, how to fix
problems and avoid doing unattended updates or something like that ;)
I'm curious about this. I've bee
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:59:08 +0100
Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joey Hess wrote:
> > Florian Kulzer wrote:
> >
> >>I would go so far as to say that "Debian Unstable" is an oxymoron.
> >
> >
> > From WordNet (r) 2.0 (August 2003) [wn]:
> >
> > unstable
> > ...
> > 6: subj
Joey Hess wrote:
Florian Kulzer wrote:
I would go so far as to say that "Debian Unstable" is an oxymoron.
From WordNet (r) 2.0 (August 2003) [wn]:
unstable
...
6: subject to change; variable; "a fluid situation fraught with
uncertainty"; "everything was unstable following t
Florian Kulzer wrote:
> I would go so far as to say that "Debian Unstable" is an oxymoron.
From WordNet (r) 2.0 (August 2003) [wn]:
unstable
...
6: subject to change; variable; "a fluid situation fraught with
uncertainty"; "everything was unstable following the coup"
[s
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 04:45:31PM +0100, Thomas Jollans wrote:
>On Tuesday 14 March 2006 11:39, Magnus Therning wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 05:16:02AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
[..]
>> Step two is to edit /etc/apt/sources.list. This is the relevant part of
>> mine:
>>
>> deb http://ftp.uk
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:05:56 -0800
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:27:07 +0200
> Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I think many from this list recalls the yaird issue which made an
> > unbootable initrd. I got "hit" directly :) Though I l
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:27:07 +0200
Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think many from this list recalls the yaird issue which made an unbootable
> initrd. I got "hit" directly :) Though I learned to *always* keep a second
> kernel installed it still counts as a break.
Good point,
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:42:47 -0800
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:45:31 +0100
> Thomas Jollans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > because SID breakes. period. you must know what yu are doing, how to fix
> > problems and avoid doing unattended update
Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
> ive been running sid for 4 to 5 years and there have been glitches
> (maybe severe ones once a year), but by-in-large if i want to try new
^^^
The term is actually "by and large" and it is actually a nautical term.
Though, t
Clive Menzies wrote:
On (14/03/06 10:42), Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:45:31 +0100
Thomas Jollans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
I'm curious about this. I've been running pure sid for over a year
and have never had anything break .
What is people's experience with
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 10:42:47AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:45:31 +0100
> Thomas Jollans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > because SID breakes. period. you must know what yu are doing, how to fix
> > problems and avoid doing unattended updates or something
On (14/03/06 10:42), Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:45:31 +0100
> Thomas Jollans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > because SID breakes. period. you must know what yu are doing, how to fix
> > problems and avoid doing unattended updates or something like that ;)
>
> I'm curious
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:45:31 +0100
Thomas Jollans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> because SID breakes. period. you must know what yu are doing, how to fix
> problems and avoid doing unattended updates or something like that ;)
I'm curious about this. I've been running pure sid for over a year an
Jude DaShiell wrote:
What would the steps be to go from sarge stable to sarge unstable
using apt-get? For now I'm restricted to console mode until or unless
I figure out how to get debian's xwindows interface talking.
you put two questions. the first is: how to get xwindows working; and 2.
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 11:39, Magnus Therning wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 05:16:02AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> >For now I'm restricted to console mode until or unless I
restricted ? I see no restrictions here. Just a little less eye candy *lol*
>
> First off, Sarge is the stable release
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 05:16:02AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>What would the steps be to go from sarge stable to sarge unstable using
>apt-get? For now I'm restricted to console mode until or unless I
>figure out how to get debian's xwindows interface talking.
First off, Sarge is the stable rel
What would the steps be to go from sarge stable to sarge unstable using
apt-get? For now I'm restricted to console mode until or unless I figure
out how to get debian's xwindows interface talking.
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Curtis Vaughan wrote:
When doing a distribution upgrade I got a message telling me to issue
the following command:
readlink /boot/boot.b | cut -f2 -d- | cut -f1 -d
in order to find out the parameter for "install =" in /etc/lilo.conf
By issuing the command:
readlink /boot/boot.b |
Curtis Vaughan wrote:
So, before I reboot, I just want to be sure that I have lilo.conf set up
right.
What specifically should I do? Remove the install= line, or put
something like install=menu.b?
Yes, you should be able to safely remove the 'install=' line if you have
upgraded to LILO > 22.3 a
So, before I reboot, I just want to be sure that I have lilo.conf set
up right.
What specifically should I do? Remove the install= line, or put
something like install=menu.b?
Curtis Vaughan
On 15 Apr, 2004, at 17:24, dircha wrote:
Curtis Vaughan wrote:
When doing a distribution upgrade I got
Curtis Vaughan wrote:
When doing a distribution upgrade I got a message telling me to issue
the following command:
readlink /boot/boot.b | cut -f2 -d- | cut -f1 -d
in order to find out the parameter for "install =" in /etc/lilo.conf
By issuing the command:
readlink /boot/boot.b |
When doing a distribution upgrade I got a message telling me to issue
the following command:
readlink /boot/boot.b | cut -f2 -d- | cut -f1 -d
in order to find out the parameter for "install =" in /etc/lilo.conf
By issuing the command:
readlink /boot/boot.b | cut -f2 -d- | cut -f1 -d
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