Re: Direct cable connection

2003-03-13 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- deFreese, Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Wednesday, 12 March 2003, 02:00 PM -0800): > > -Original Message- > > From: csj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:55 PM > > To: Debian User > > Subject: Direct cable connecti

Re: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-13 Thread ronin2
On 12 Mar 2003 17:23:08 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If there are any network techs in your local LUG, one could make a > patch cable for you for the cost of parts plus a 6-pack of good beer. A six-pack?! *Good* beer?! These British network techs must be pretty expensive! :)

Re: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-13 Thread ronin2
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:59:05 -0800 "deFreese, Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Careful with this if you try it yourself because it is not a 1 to 1 > crossover. Ethernet only uses ping 2,3,4, and 6 so you need to cross 2 to > 4, 3 to 6, 4 to 2, and 6 to 3. Not a problem. Your Honor, I'd like

Re: Direct cable connection

2003-03-13 Thread Barry deFreese
arief_mulya wrote: Normal UTP: connect pin 1 - 1 2 - 2 3 - 3 6 - 6 Twisted / Cross UTP: connect pin 1 - 3 2 - 6 3 - 1 6 - 2 Good luck. Best Regards, arief_mulya After seeing this, I realized that arief is correct. I earlier said it uses pins 2,3,4 and 6 and he is correct, it is 1,2,3 an

Re: Direct cable connection

2003-03-12 Thread arief_mulya
Dear, matt zagrabelny wrote: In Windows I recall something called Direct Cable Connection that allowed you to link two computers thru the parallel port. The GNU/Linux version of this appears to be PLIP (which I tried and failed at many many moons ago). Failed? Can you tell me why? I used to use

Re: Direct cable connection

2003-03-12 Thread matt zagrabelny
> In Windows I recall something called Direct Cable Connection that > allowed you to link two computers thru the parallel port. The > GNU/Linux version of this appears to be PLIP (which I tried and > failed at many many moons ago). > > So, is there a more modern way to "hot

Re: Direct cable connection

2003-03-12 Thread Scott Henson
On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 21:36, Pigeon wrote: > I don't think USB to USB is possible, as both PCs would want to be the > controller, which is not allowed. I think. USB to USB networking. Its in the kernel source, though I have never used it. Might be kinda cool to use sometime though. -- Scott He

Re: Direct cable connection

2003-03-12 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 05:12:51AM +0800, csj wrote: > In Windows I recall something called Direct Cable Connection that > allowed you to link two computers thru the parallel port. The > GNU/Linux version of this appears to be PLIP (which I tried and > failed at many many moons ago).

Re: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 04:50:16PM -0800, deFreese, Barry wrote: > > Hey, that gives me an idea. How about a cable with two heads > > on one end, > > one being a crossover? Or would that introduce noise? > > > > It will work but it won't be "certified" for 100Mbit... :-) now thats an even better

RE: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-12 Thread deFreese, Barry
> -Original Message- > From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:41 PM > To: Debian User > Subject: Re: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection] > > > > > > > Hey, that gives me an idea. How about a cable with t

Re: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-12 Thread Kent West
deFreese, Barry wrote: -Original Message- From: Hugh Saunders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 2:50 PM To: Debian User Subject: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection] On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 05:00:46PM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote: So, is there a more

Re: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-12 Thread Kent West
Hugh Saunders wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 06:29:28PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:34:02 + Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: on the subject of crossover cables, do you know where you can get adapters that go on the end of normal patch cables to conver

Re: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-12 Thread Gary Hennigan
"Hugh Saunders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > on the subject of crossover cables, do you know where you can get > adapters that go on the end of normal patch cables to convert them > to crossover? > > The reason i ask is because i only want to carry one network cable in > laptop bag but would be

RE: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-12 Thread deFreese, Barry
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:45 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection] > > > On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:34:02 + > Hugh Saunder

Re: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 06:29:28PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:34:02 + > Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on the subject of crossover cables, do you know where you can get > > adapters that go on the end of normal patch cables to convert them > > to c

Re: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:59:23PM -0800, deFreese, Barry wrote: > It's somewhat pointless to have an adapter I would think since you are still > going to need the male RJ-45 end on both ends. If you going to carry and > adapter and a cable isn't just as easy to carry two cables? If you really >

Re: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-12 Thread ronin2
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:34:02 + Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on the subject of crossover cables, do you know where you can get > adapters that go on the end of normal patch cables to convert them > to crossover? > > The reason i ask is because i only want to carry one network ca

Re: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 16:34, Hugh Saunders wrote: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 05:00:46PM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote: > > > So, is there a more modern way to "hotwire" two boxes without the > > > use of routers or extra file systems? Is it possible to do a > > > straight USB to USB or NIC to NIC connec

RE: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-12 Thread deFreese, Barry
> -Original Message- > From: Hugh Saunders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 2:50 PM > To: Debian User > Subject: X-over cables [was Direct cable connection] > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 05:00:46PM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote: > > &g

X-over cables [was Direct cable connection]

2003-03-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 05:00:46PM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote: > > So, is there a more modern way to "hotwire" two boxes without the > > use of routers or extra file systems? Is it possible to do a > > straight USB to USB or NIC to NIC connection? > > There's something called an ethernet crossover

RE: Direct cable connection

2003-03-12 Thread deFreese, Barry
> -Original Message- > From: csj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:55 PM > To: Debian User > Subject: Direct cable connection > > > In Windows I recall something called Direct Cable Connection that > allowed you to link two compu

Re: Direct cable connection

2003-03-12 Thread Mike Dresser
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, csj wrote: > In Windows I recall something called Direct Cable Connection that > allowed you to link two computers thru the parallel port. The > GNU/Linux version of this appears to be PLIP (which I tried and > failed at many many moons ago). > > So, is t

Direct cable connection

2003-03-12 Thread csj
In Windows I recall something called Direct Cable Connection that allowed you to link two computers thru the parallel port. The GNU/Linux version of this appears to be PLIP (which I tried and failed at many many moons ago). So, is there a more modern way to "hotwire" two boxes without