Desktop environments stealing app key shortcuts (Was Re: package managers problem)

2023-06-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 04:14:07PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 6/21/23 13:51, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > On Wednesday 21 June 2023 08:54:46 am Maurice Heskett wrote: > > > it pisses me off that F10 has been stolen by the window > > > managers to bring up a useless menu, making me f

Re: multiple desktop environments and performance

2020-04-14 Thread Anders Andersson
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:07 PM Anil F Duggirala wrote: > > I would like to know if having multiple (say 3) different desktop > environments would have an effect in performance of my machine, as > opposed to having a single one. If I have Gnome already installed and > then instal

multiple desktop environments and performance

2020-04-14 Thread Anil F Duggirala
hello, I would like to know if having multiple (say 3) different desktop environments would have an effect in performance of my machine, as opposed to having a single one. If I have Gnome already installed and then install Lxqt and Mate. Would you expect to see any effect on the performance when

Re: Desktop environments

2020-04-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
gt; To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Desktop environments > Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 04:36:40 + (UTC) > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > On Fri, 10 Apr 2020, mick crane wrote: > > > Well I was thinking is a valid question. > > Wha

Re: Desktop environments

2020-04-10 Thread davidson
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020, mick crane wrote: Well I was thinking is a valid question. What's the deal with these desktop environments ? I wonder this too. I thought is like a desktop with pictures so you know where everything is and then you click and start a program that does something Th

Re: Desktop environments

2020-04-10 Thread rhkramer
Resending to list, unintentionally sent my reply off list. On 2020-04-10 20:21, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, April 10, 2020 02:50:14 PM mick crane wrote: Well I was thinking is a valid question. What's the deal with these desktop environments ? I thought is like a desktop with pic

Re: Desktop environments

2020-04-10 Thread rhkramer
Hmm, I wasn't paying attention -- my regular reply went to Mick, only, not to the list, resending. Will do the same for his reply. On Friday, April 10, 2020 02:50:14 PM mick crane wrote: > Well I was thinking is a valid question. > What's the deal with these desktop environmen

Re: Desktop environments

2020-04-10 Thread Martin
; Well I was thinking is a valid question. > What's the deal with these desktop environments ? > I thought is like a desktop with pictures so you know where everything > is and then you click and start a program that does something and the > desktop gets out of the way ? &g

Desktop environments

2020-04-10 Thread mick crane
Well I was thinking is a valid question. What's the deal with these desktop environments ? I thought is like a desktop with pictures so you know where everything is and then you click and start a program that does something and the desktop gets out of the way ? Is that not the purpose ?

Re: Openbox without other desktop environments.

2015-11-11 Thread Brian
On Wed 11 Nov 2015 at 15:28:25 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 02:51:30PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: > > [...] > > > "man startx" tells us that startx is a frontend to xinit. It also > > states that configuration should be done in ".xsession". So, open > > the file "~/.x

Re: Openbox without other desktop environments.

2015-11-11 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 11 Nov 2015, Rene Funck wrote: > I have a virgin installation of Jessie v.8.2 and i want to run Openbox > without other desktop environments. So my situation is almost > identical to Dwijesh Gajadurs who posted to this list yesterday. > > I followed the advises to Dwijesh:

Re: Openbox without other desktop environments.

2015-11-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 02:51:30PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: [...] > "man startx" tells us that startx is a frontend to xinit. It also > states that configuration should be done in ".xsession". So, open > the file "~/.xsession" in your favourite edi

Re: Openbox without other desktop environments.

2015-11-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 03:34:52PM +0100, Rene Funck wrote: > Hello Users > > I have a virgin installation of Jessie v.8.2 and i want to run Openbox > without other desktop environments. So my situation is almost identical to > Dwije

Re: Openbox without other desktop environments.

2015-11-11 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 03:34:52PM +0100, Rene Funck wrote: Hello Users I have a virgin installation of Jessie v.8.2 and i want to run Openbox without other desktop environments. So my situation is almost identical to Dwijesh Gajadurs who posted to this list yesterday. I followed the

Openbox without other desktop environments.

2015-11-11 Thread Rene Funck
Hello Users I have a virgin installation of Jessie v.8.2 and i want to run Openbox without other desktop environments. So my situation is almost identical to Dwijesh Gajadurs who posted to this list yesterday. I followed the advises to Dwijesh: Installed Xorg, installed Openbox (my own idea

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments [somewhat off topic]

2014-05-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 06 mai 14, 21:20:29, Brian wrote: > > The Debian Fairy has waved her magic wand: > >tasksel remove > > Followed by > >apt-get --purge autoremove This will most probably not restore your system to its previous state due to circular Depends/Recommends/Suggests, especially for th

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments [somewhat off topic]

2014-05-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 06 mai 14, 17:33:56, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi Paul, > > On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 07:54 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I want a new "task-jwm-desktop" to be written. > > It might make sense to provide xfce4-terminal or roxterm for such a > JWM meta-package, but many people perhaps think tha

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments [somewhat off topic]

2014-05-06 Thread Stephen Allen
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 09:20:29PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 06 May 2014 at 07:54:58 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > This post is being composed well after a great tree of responses to OP > > have accumulated. In these, as well as in other posts about DE in > > Debian I have seen mentioned th

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments [somewhat off topic]

2014-05-06 Thread Brian
On Tue 06 May 2014 at 07:54:58 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > This post is being composed well after a great tree of responses to OP > have accumulated. In these, as well as in other posts about DE in > Debian I have seen mentioned the JWM environment. It is interesting to > me, but I am aware that

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments [somewhat off topic]

2014-05-06 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140506_1820+0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 17:56 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > I don't want to decide what "sane" default software for JWM usage could > > be. Some people want to get something close to a bloated DE, other's > > want to be closer to a tiling window manager w

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments [somewhat off topic]

2014-05-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 17:56 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I don't want to decide what "sane" default software for JWM usage could > be. Some people want to get something close to a bloated DE, other's > want to be closer to a tiling window manager when using JWM. PPS: I want to get something in the

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments [somewhat off topic]

2014-05-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 17:33 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi Paul, > > On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 07:54 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I want a new "task-jwm-desktop" to be written. > > JWM isn't a desktop environment, it's a window manager only. To provide > such a meta package for JWM would be more

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments [somewhat off topic]

2014-05-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi Paul, On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 07:54 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > I want a new "task-jwm-desktop" to be written. JWM isn't a desktop environment, it's a window manager only. To provide such a meta package for JWM would be more controversy, than it already is for Xfce. For example, Xfce has got i

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments [somewhat off topic]

2014-05-06 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140502_1155+0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 02 mai 14, 15:58:00, Bret Busby wrote: > > > > What I am wondering, is whether the Debian 7.5 installation disks, include > > the option during the installation process, for the user to select which > > desktop environment(s) the user wants to

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-06 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140503_1219-0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: >.snip. > > > > tasks-xfce-desktop is a meta package that includes xfce, and also a set > > of additional packages that are typically used on a desktop system, > > like libreoffice and iceweasel. > > Those packages should be p

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 4 May 2014 11:41:12 -0700 Robert Holtzman wrote: > I learn something every day. I always thought the office suite and > browser were part of the base OS. > > Thanks for the enlightenment. :-) Well, that's certainly a goal Bill Gates is working to bring us closer to, but we Linux peopl

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-04 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 03:10:36PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Robert Holtzman writes: > > Those packages should be part of an OS install, not a DE, or am I > > wrong? > > Why would you want an office suite and a graphical browser on a > server? Damn! I hadn't thought of that. You're right, of co

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-04 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 04:34:30AM +0100, Tom Furie wrote: > On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 12:19:50PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > > > > tasks-xfce-desktop is a meta package that includes xfce, and also a set > > > of additional packages that are typically used on a desktop system, > > > like lib

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 03 mai 14, 22:17:22, Slavko wrote: > > Why there is not a option to allow to add nonfree repo in installer and > thus allow to load necessary drivers in early stage of the installation? > Perhaps only in expert mode... Yes, this can expect some manual reading > to find this solution (if ti

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 04 May 2014 07:10:13 Bret Busby wrote: > I did not know that a package could be downloaded and installed and run > within a LIVE session, without Internet access You can't download something without Internet access, be it for a Live session or for installation on an HDD. But you can ce

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Bret Busby
On Sat, 3 May 2014, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 02:28:32PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: One thing that I note - in using the xfce version of the Debian 7.4 amd64, I could not find (without entering the installation component) a hard disk ustility, for partition work on the

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 12:19:50PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > > tasks-xfce-desktop is a meta package that includes xfce, and also a set > > of additional packages that are typically used on a desktop system, > > like libreoffice and iceweasel. > > Those packages should be part of an OS

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 18:08 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 03 May 2014 20:54:17 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 11:38 -0700, Go Linux wrote: > > > The tooltip says "add new empty item" ie a launcher. Presto! You > > > can now add a custom launcher. > > > > I suspect

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 3 May 2014 12:19:50 -0700 Robert Holtzman wrote: >.snip. > > > > tasks-xfce-desktop is a meta package that includes xfce, and also a > > set of additional packages that are typically used on a desktop > > system, like libreoffice and iceweasel. > > Those package

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 03 May 2014 20:54:17 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 11:38 -0700, Go Linux wrote: > > The tooltip says "add new empty item" ie a launcher. Presto! You > > can now add a custom launcher. > > I suspect you and I misunderstood Steve. > > Perhaps Steve wants to get somet

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 3 May 2014 11:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Go Linux wrote: > > > On Sat, 5/3/14, Steve Litt wrote: > > Subject: Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014, 12:51 PM

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 03 May 2014 21:17:22 Slavko wrote: > Why there is not a option to allow to add nonfree repo in installer and > thus allow to load necessary drivers in early stage of the installation? > Perhaps only in expert mode... Yes, this can expect some manual reading > to find this solution (if t

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 15:10 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Robert Holtzman writes: > > Those packages should be part of an OS install, not a DE, or am I > > wrong? > > Why would you want an office suite and a graphical browser on a > server? https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/task-xfce-desktop It's

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 3 May 2014 18:29:47 +0100 Brian napísal: > On Sat 03 May 2014 at 16:51:38 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Saturday 03 May 2014 16:26:08 Brian wrote: > > > A novice wouldn't even know the hoops were at hand > > > > We all have our own ways of getting round it or living with it.

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread John Hasler
Robert Holtzman writes: > Those packages should be part of an OS install, not a DE, or am I > wrong? Why would you want an office suite and a graphical browser on a server? -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org wit

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Brian
On Sat 03 May 2014 at 12:19:50 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: >.snip. Snipping of a post is fine but yours has produced one which is divorced from its parent https://lists.debian.org/20140503151104.06e9e...@orac.fil You'll realise this makes it difficult to follow wha

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Robert Holtzman
.snip. > > tasks-xfce-desktop is a meta package that includes xfce, and also a set > of additional packages that are typically used on a desktop system, > like libreoffice and iceweasel. Those packages should be part of an OS install, not a DE, or am I wrong? -- Bob Holt

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 02:28:32PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On Sat, 3 May 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > >No wonder 'we' are not winning the desktop war. (sigh) > > > > I dunno. > > I think this thing about "not winning the desktop war", may be an > "urban myth", or, may otherwise be proven w

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 11:38 -0700, Go Linux wrote: > The tooltip says "add new empty item" ie a launcher. Presto! You can > now add a custom launcher. I suspect you and I misunderstood Steve. Perhaps Steve wants to get something like this: Parent Launcher | |__Sub Launcher Menu 1 |

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 5/3/14, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014, 12:51 PM On Sat, 3 May 2014 09:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Go Linux wrote: > I'm not in XF

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 13:51 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 3 May 2014 09:06:54 -0700 (PDT) > Go Linux wrote: > > > > I'm not in XFCE right now (on Squeeze/Gnome 2) but I'm pretty sure > > that I have custom launchers within a launcher. Give it a try! > > I'd love to, but don't know how. I

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 3 May 2014 09:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Go Linux wrote: > I'm not in XFCE right now (on Squeeze/Gnome 2) but I'm pretty sure > that I have custom launchers within a launcher. Give it a try! I'd love to, but don't know how. If I left-click on the top level launcher, click properties, I get a li

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 09:06 -0700, Go Linux wrote: > I'm not in XFCE right now (on Squeeze/Gnome 2) but I'm pretty sure > that I have custom launchers within a launcher. I'm also not in Xfce4, but running Jwm at the moment. There are launchers that provide a menu including launchers. There's a di

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Brian
On Sat 03 May 2014 at 16:51:38 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 03 May 2014 16:26:08 Brian wrote: > > A novice wouldn't even know the hoops were at hand > > We all have our own ways of getting round it or living with it. None > of these would be easy for a novice. That is much too general

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Bret Busby
On Sat, 3 May 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 03 mai 14, 14:28:32, Bret Busby wrote: One thing that I note - in using the xfce version of the Debian 7.4 amd64, I could not find (without entering the installation component) a hard disk ustility, for partition work on the hard drive (like gp

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 5/3/14, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014, 10:49 AM On Sat, 3 May 2014 07:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Go Linux wrote

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 03 May 2014 16:26:08 Brian wrote: > A novice wouldn't even know the hoops were at hand For as long as Debian sticks to its recent policy of only free software in the basic .iso, including in the installer, hoops or an old computer will be necessary. We all have our own ways of getti

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 3 May 2014 07:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Go Linux wrote: > > On Sat, 5/3/14, Steve Litt wrote: > > Subject: Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014, 8:14 AM >

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Brian
On Sat 03 May 2014 at 16:56:24 +0200, filip wrote: > On Sat, 3 May 2014 15:31:52 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > > I can > > think of better ways of forcing experience on someone. > > I'm not forcing anything on anyone. I'm just sharing what works > consistently for me. I was not thinking in terms of

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread filip
On Sat, 3 May 2014 15:31:52 +0100 Brian wrote: > I can > think of better ways of forcing experience on someone. I'm not forcing anything on anyone. I'm just sharing what works consistently for me. You can do it in whatever way that makes you happy. > > The Xfce4 metapackage doesn't install a

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 5/3/14, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014, 8:14 AM I LOVE, and sorely miss, Gnome2's use of nested drawers in p

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Brian
On Sat 03 May 2014 at 15:11:04 +0200, filip wrote: > There are many places where an inexperienced user can become stuck. It's > an opportunity to become an experienced user. A user who has read the Release Notes and the Installation Manual and who has correctly set up networking during an install

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 3 May 2014 14:28:32 +0800 (WST) Bret Busby wrote: > Ah, if only GNOME 2 would still be available for the curent versions > of operating systems, it would be supreme )?) . Yes, it certainly would be. Why the Gnome people threw their success down the drain and switch to a "hunt and guess"

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread filip
On Sat, 3 May 2014 10:53:51 +0100 Brian wrote: > If networking in d-i had been set up to use wifi the assumption breaks > down as, without a DE, there is no connectivity for the booted system. > This would most likely leave an inexperienced user completely stuck. There are many places where an i

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Brian
On Sat 03 May 2014 at 11:08:29 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > I feel happy to continue using boot in te meaning in which wiktionary uses it. I should have said: Choosing a DE *after* booting d-i's kernel.. That should avoid having to look into the meaning of "booting". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Brian
On Sat 03 May 2014 at 14:46:45 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 03/05/14 06:29, Brian wrote: > > > > Choosing a DE *after* booting d-i is not possible and, as far as I can > > remember, there has never been such an option. > > It's not hard (tasksel), - but if the 'user' wants, they can. It's a

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 03 May 2014 10:40:28 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 02 mai 14, 22:13:02, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 02 May 2014 21:29:43 Brian wrote: > > > Choosing a DE *after* booting d-i is not possible and, as far as I can > > > remember, there has never been such an option. > > > > You and I

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Brian
ge. > tasks->End user, and select one of the desktop environments. A little thing: isn't it "Tasks"? > Or just run one of: > > apt-get install task-xfce-desktop > apt-get install task-gnome-desktop > apt-get install task-kde-desktop > apt-get install task-l

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 02 mai 14, 22:13:02, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 02 May 2014 21:29:43 Brian wrote: > > > > Choosing a DE *after* booting d-i is not possible and, as far as I can > > remember, there has never been such an option. > > You and I clearly mean different things by "booting". I have done it >

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 03 mai 14, 14:28:32, Bret Busby wrote: > > One thing that I note - in using the xfce version of the Debian 7.4 amd64, I > could not find (without entering the installation component) a hard disk > ustility, for partition work on the hard drive (like gparted, I think it > was, in GNOME 2 on

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-02 Thread Bret Busby
On Sat, 3 May 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: No wonder 'we' are not winning the desktop war. (sigh) I dunno. I think this thing about "not winning the desktop war", may be an "urban myth", or, may otherwise be proven wrong. With things like Windows 8, that I have found to be designed to prev

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 03/05/14 06:29, Brian wrote: > On Fri 02 May 2014 at 13:30:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> On Friday 02 May 2014 09:55:02 Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>> On Vi, 02 mai 14, 15:58:00, Bret Busby wrote: What I am wondering, is whether the Debian 7.5 installation disks, include the option duri

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-02 Thread Brian
On Fri 02 May 2014 at 22:13:02 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 02 May 2014 21:29:43 Brian wrote: > > On Fri 02 May 2014 at 13:30:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 02 May 2014 09:55:02 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > On Vi, 02 mai 14, 15:58:00, Bret Busby wrote: > > > > > What I am won

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-02 Thread filip
rmware/7.5.0/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-7.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso I never install the desktop environment from the iso installer. Just install the base system, and after the system had booted, and assuming the network is configured correctly just run aptitude, and go to tasks->End user, and select one

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 02 May 2014 21:29:43 Brian wrote: > On Fri 02 May 2014 at 13:30:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 02 May 2014 09:55:02 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Vi, 02 mai 14, 15:58:00, Bret Busby wrote: > > > > What I am wondering, is whether the Debian 7.5 installation disks, > > > > inclu

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-02 Thread Brian
On Fri 02 May 2014 at 13:30:07 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 02 May 2014 09:55:02 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Vi, 02 mai 14, 15:58:00, Bret Busby wrote: > > > What I am wondering, is whether the Debian 7.5 installation disks, > > > include the option during the installation process, for th

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-02 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 02 May 2014 09:55:02 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 02 mai 14, 15:58:00, Bret Busby wrote: > > What I am wondering, is whether the Debian 7.5 installation disks, > > include the option during the installation process, for the user to > > select which desktop environment(s) the user wants

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 02 mai 14, 15:58:00, Bret Busby wrote: > > What I am wondering, is whether the Debian 7.5 installation disks, include > the option during the installation process, for the user to select which > desktop environment(s) the user wants to install. Not unless you go to individual package selec

Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-02 Thread Bret Busby
On Fri, 2 May 2014, Bret Busby wrote: Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 15:58:00 From: Bret Busby To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Debian 7.x and desktop environments Hello. I have tried to install Debian 7.4 amd64 from the xfce live disk, and the installation failed; it could not find two of

Debian 7.x and desktop environments

2014-05-02 Thread Bret Busby
Hello. I have tried to install Debian 7.4 amd64 from the xfce live disk, and the installation failed; it could not find two of the mirrors, and when it came to the bootloader, it gave an error message like "Could not install GRUB in /target", and the installation ended up failing. With Debia

Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.

2012-02-22 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 02/22/12 19:15, yudi v wrote: Don't login to your shell as root, just as $user, then it's the same: startx Ok I cannot launch X session from tty7, default console, as the normal user. But if I change the allowed_users value in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config file from "console" to "anybody", I can

Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.

2012-02-22 Thread yudi v
> > Don't login to your shell as root, just as $user, > then it's the same: > startx Ok I cannot launch X session from tty7, default console, as the normal user. But if I change the allowed_users value in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config file from "console" to "anybody", I can launch it from tty7. >From

Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.

2012-02-22 Thread Wayne Topa
On 02/21/2012 09:05 PM, yudi v wrote: The OP didn't, I think, specify that he wants two X sessions with the same user. Yes that is exactly right, I an trying to use two X sessions under one user. You might want something like this... In my .bashrcx() x() { D=x for i in `seq 0 4

Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.

2012-02-22 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 07:00:28PM +1000, yudi v wrote: > I just realized that I have been launching X session as root, how to > launch a new X session without using elevated privileges. Don't login to your shell as root, just as $user, then it's the same: startx ./tony -- http://www.tonybaldwin

Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.

2012-02-22 Thread yudi v
I just realized that I have been launching X session as root, how to launch a new X session without using elevated privileges. -- Kind regards, Yudi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.

2012-02-21 Thread yudi v
> Yes.  See my earlier post.  That is exactly what I do.  In each of the > accounts on my box startx is aliased to one of the commands that I > mentioned.  This starts up a new X session on the specified vt.  By > specifying the vt in the startx command I know that my session is always on > vt7, my

Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.

2012-02-21 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 02/21/12 09:54, Tony Baldwin wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:28:44AM -0600, hvw59601 wrote: yudi v wrote: Hi all, I am trying to get gnome (default in tty7) and xfce (in tty1) to run at the sametime. I got as far as launching another x server session and xfce4 with the following command:

Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.

2012-02-21 Thread yudi v
>> The OP didn't, I think, specify that he wants two X sessions with the >> same user. Yes that is exactly right, I an trying to use two X sessions under one user. -- Kind regards, Yudi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.

2012-02-21 Thread yudi v
> > The command that you are using is not starting the new xserver in tty1.  It > is almost certainly in tty8, the next available tty session.  The :1 is > display 1, not tty1.  I use aliases of startx such as: I first log on to tty1 and then run the command: startx startxfce4 -- :1 -- Kind reg

Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.

2012-02-21 Thread hvw59601
Tony Baldwin wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:28:44AM -0600, hvw59601 wrote: yudi v wrote: Hi all, I am trying to get gnome (default in tty7) and xfce (in tty1) to run at the sametime. I got as far as launching another x server session and xfce4 with the following command: startx startxfce4

Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.

2012-02-21 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2012 21 Feb 11:56 -0600, Tony Baldwin wrote: > I'm just curious, after looking at this thread (but haven't tried). > Could one not start a first X session in one tty, > then go to another (ctrol-alt-#) and login as another user and start a > different X session? Yes. I've done it with KDE 3

Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.

2012-02-21 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:28:44AM -0600, hvw59601 wrote: > yudi v wrote: > >Hi all, > > > >I am trying to get gnome (default in tty7) and xfce (in tty1) to run > >at the sametime. > >I got as far as launching another x server session and xfce4 with the > >following command: > > > >startx startxfce

Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.

2012-02-21 Thread hvw59601
yudi v wrote: Hi all, I am trying to get gnome (default in tty7) and xfce (in tty1) to run at the sametime. I got as far as launching another x server session and xfce4 with the following command: startx startxfce4 -- :1 There are couple of issues I am trying to resolve: 1. when I switch back

Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.

2012-02-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 21 feb 12, 15:33:15, yudi v wrote: > > 1. when I switch back to tty7 X server session in tty1 terminates. How > to fix this? Marc already answered this. > 2. all the start-up applications under Gnome also start in xfce, how > can I completely separate the environments. I would like to ke

Re: Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.

2012-02-21 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 02/20/12 21:33, yudi v wrote: Hi all, I am trying to get gnome (default in tty7) and xfce (in tty1) to run at the sametime. I got as far as launching another x server session and xfce4 with the following command: startx startxfce4 -- :1 There are couple of issues I am trying to resolve: 1.

Simultaneous desktop environments (Gnome and xfce) in two X server sessions.

2012-02-20 Thread yudi v
Hi all, I am trying to get gnome (default in tty7) and xfce (in tty1) to run at the sametime. I got as far as launching another x server session and xfce4 with the following command: startx startxfce4 -- :1 There are couple of issues I am trying to resolve: 1. when I switch back to tty7 X serve

Re: Question about Desktop Environments

2008-03-27 Thread s. keeling
Vikki Roemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Klein Moebius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >[?] > > >> > > >> Touche. But if I told my wife I married her for her cookies... > > > > > >Of course. Only at his peril does a man tell

Re: Question about Desktop Environments

2008-03-27 Thread Vikki Roemer
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Klein Moebius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> Touche. But if I told my wife I married her for her cookies... > >> > >Of course. Only at his peril does a man tells his wife the real > >reason he married her. > > Shhh!

Re: Question about Desktop Environments

2008-03-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 03:27:20PM -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: ... > Perhaps that should be > > s/If women are so weak they can't/If women have better things to do > than/ very likely... > > But I don't really know, just having noticed this subthread right > abotu now, and not sufficiently

Re: Question about Desktop Environments

2008-03-18 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/18/08 16:27, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > On 2008-03-18, Ron Johnson penned: >> On 03/18/08 15:05, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> What outcry? Ron's got a point. Seems like all the ladies went to >>> debian-women or something. >> Serena Cantor & Michell

Re: Question about Desktop Environments

2008-03-18 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2008-03-18, Ron Johnson penned: > On 03/18/08 15:05, Paul Johnson wrote: >> What outcry? Ron's got a point. Seems like all the ladies went to >> debian-women or something. > > Serena Cantor & Michelle Konzack are the only two that I can think > of on this list. And debian-women doesn't seem v

Re: Question about Desktop Environments

2008-03-18 Thread Klein Moebius
* Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-03-18 13:05:00 -0700]: > What outcry? Ron's got a point. Seems like all the ladies went to > debian-women or something. Hmm. Maybe so. -- Regards, Klein When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property.

Re: Question about Desktop Environments

2008-03-18 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/18/08 15:05, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tuesday 18 March 2008 10:02:48 am Klein Moebius wrote: >> * Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-03-18 11:56:47 -0500]: >>> Don't worry. You can count on one hand the number of women on this >>> list, and s

Re: Question about Desktop Environments

2008-03-18 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 18 March 2008 10:02:48 am Klein Moebius wrote: > * Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-03-18 11:56:47 -0500]: > > Don't worry. You can count on one hand the number of women on this > > list, and still have 3 left over. > > Uh,oh - Let the outcry begin! What outcry? Ron's got a point

Re: Question about Desktop Environments

2008-03-18 Thread Klein Moebius
* Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-03-18 10:36:19 -0700]: > /me ducks You may have to move to another planet, not just duck! -- Regards, Klein It's a recession when your neighbour loses his job; it's a depression when you lose yours. -- Harry S. Truman signatur

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