Re: Preseed install, Selection of Language/Country/Keyboard and Desktop Environment

2024-12-04 Thread Ralph Aichinger
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 03:00:17PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > I do an install to a hard drive and when I get it configured to what I > want i copy to an USB drive. > > Then any time I need to do a install I simply partition a drive, > create the filesystems mount the drive and the USB d

Re: Preseed install, Selection of Language/Country/Keyboard and Desktop Environment

2024-12-04 Thread Ralph Aichinger
Hello Michael, thanks for your reply On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 02:38:29PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > Compare https://michael.kjorling.se/debian-12-bookworm-preseed/ under > the B.4.1 heading about half way down the page. Actually right after my mail to this list I found your site by googling,

Re: Preseed install, Selection of Language/Country/Keyboard and Desktop Environment

2024-12-04 Thread Ralph Aichinger
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 04:03:38PM +0100, john doe wrote: > > d-i debian-installer/locale string de_AT > > The "local" is less "flexible". > Look at [1], the first few lines > > > Similar with the menu where the desktop environment is selected. >

Re: Preseed install, Selection of Language/Country/Keyboard and Desktop Environment

2024-12-04 Thread john doe
cultish): d-i debian-installer/locale string de_AT The "local" is less "flexible". Look at [1], the first few lines Similar with the menu where the desktop environment is selected. I want LXDE and "SSH Server". I always drop back into the menu. I have tried: Also

Re: Preseed install, Selection of Language/Country/Keyboard and Desktop Environment

2024-12-04 Thread Michael Kjörling
ian-12-bookworm-preseed/ under the B.4.1 heading about half way down the page. > Similar with the menu where the desktop environment is selected. > I want LXDE and "SSH Server". I always drop back into the menu. > I have tried: > > d-i pkgsel/include string openssh-server &g

Re: Preseed install, Selection of Language/Country/Keyboard and Desktop Environment

2024-12-04 Thread pocket
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2024 at 7:35 AM > From: "Ralph Aichinger" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Preseed install, Selection of Language/Country/Keyboard and Desktop > Environment > > Hi fellow Debian Users > > I am currently try

Preseed install, Selection of Language/Country/Keyboard and Desktop Environment

2024-12-04 Thread Ralph Aichinger
select German Some of this I grabbed from https://preseed.debian.net/debian-preseed/bookworm/ but this is a lot of information in these files. The above is not enough to get my three selections without being prompted. Similar with the menu where the desktop environment is selected. I want LXDE and

Re: Desktop environment

2023-12-16 Thread Dan Ritter
William Torrez Corea wrote: > I have installed Debian 12 and use XFCE 4.18. The installation has a > problem, the windows do not adjust size and figure like the previous > version. In addition to the title, the fonts are very small. > > I don't know if it is a bug or configuration problem. I'm n

Re: Gnome desktop environment

2023-04-23 Thread Bret Busby
On 4/22/23 14:52, William Torrez Corea wrote: I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment. *What command is used for an elimination complete?* format c: .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..

Re: Gnome desktop environment

2023-04-23 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 4/22/23 17:12, Jeremy Ardley wrote: On 23/4/23 04:49, Peter Ehlert wrote: Be careful and don't include any Gnome/"Debian desktop". When you select a desktop install with standard Debian you don't have lot of control over what is installed. And that's even with an advanced install.

Re: Gnome desktop environment

2023-04-23 Thread Bret Busby
On 24/4/23 05:10, Bret Busby wrote: On 4/22/23 14:52, William Torrez Corea wrote: I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment. *What command is used for an elimination complete?* format c: as the superuser. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..

Re: Gnome desktop environment

2023-04-23 Thread Bret Busby
On 23/4/23 03:52, William Torrez Corea wrote: I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment. Why? What exactly do you want to achieve? Those two questions should be answered, before you seek a solution, which could otherwise do something that you do not want. " "So once you do

Re: Gnome desktop environment

2023-04-23 Thread Kent West
On 4/22/23 14:52, William Torrez Corea wrote: I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment. *What command is used for an elimination complete?* I use this command but don't get the effect desired. # apt-get install task-gnome-desktop "install" won't remove. You wan

Re: Gnome desktop environment

2023-04-22 Thread songbird
amd64 Various applets for the MATE panel ii mate-applets-common 1.26.1-1all Various applets for the MATE panel (common files) ii mate-backgrounds 1.26.0-1 all Set of b

Re: Gnome desktop environment

2023-04-22 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 23/4/23 04:49, Peter Ehlert wrote: Be careful and don't include any Gnome/"Debian desktop". When you select a desktop install with standard Debian you don't have lot of control over what is installed. And that's even with an advanced install. Personally I use only Mate but it's riddl

Re: Gnome desktop environment

2023-04-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 4:49 PM Peter Ehlert wrote: > > On April 22, 2023 12:58:24 PM Mark Fletcher wrote: >> >> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 20:53, William Torrez Corea >> wrote: >>> >>> I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment. >>> &

Re: Gnome desktop environment

2023-04-22 Thread Peter Ehlert
On April 22, 2023 12:58:24 PM Mark Fletcher wrote: On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 20:53, William Torrez Corea wrote: I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment. What command is used for an elimination complete? I use this command but don't get the effect desired. # apt-get in

Re: Gnome desktop environment

2023-04-22 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 20:53, William Torrez Corea wrote: > I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment. > > *What command is used for an elimination complete?* > > I use this command but don't get the effect desired. > > # apt-get install task-gnome-desktop > &g

Gnome desktop environment

2023-04-22 Thread William Torrez Corea
I want to delete the Gnome desktop environment. *What command is used for an elimination complete?* I use this command but don't get the effect desired. # apt-get install task-gnome-desktop -- With kindest regards, William. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating s

Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-28 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Sat, May 28, 2022, 11:08 AM Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 5/28/22, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Brian wrote: > >> > Careful! If you go on like this you will end up installing bullseye > :). > > > > Keith Bainbridge wrote: > >> Bookworm? > >> SID? > > > > In any case: Not Testing ! > >

Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-28 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 5/28/22, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Brian wrote: >> > Careful! If you go on like this you will end up installing bullseye :). > > Keith Bainbridge wrote: >> Bookworm? >> SID? > > In any case: Not Testing ! > > Currently a zillion of packages get marked for autoremovial from Testing > becau

Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brian wrote: > > Careful! If you go on like this you will end up installing bullseye :). Keith Bainbridge wrote: > Bookworm? > SID? In any case: Not Testing ! Currently a zillion of packages get marked for autoremovial from Testing because of https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?

Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-28 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 24/5/22 23:23, Brian wrote: Hi, After my surrender to Jessie I've thought of moving on with Stretch. Careful! If you go on like this you will end up installing bullseye :). Bookworm? SID? -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbaugro...@gmail.com

Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-27 Thread 황병희
Hellow Махно , Махно writes: > Hello. Just use i3. It is a tiling window manager designed for X11, > inspired by wmii and written in C.[5] It supports tiling, stacking, > and tabbing layouts, which it handles dynamically. Configuration is > achieved via plain text file and extending i3 is possib

Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-25 Thread Махно
Hello. Just use i3. It is a tiling window manager designed for X11, inspired by wmii and written in C.[5] It supports tiling, stacking, and tabbing layouts, which it handles dynamically. Configuration is achieved via plain text file and extending i3 is possible using its Unix domain socket and JSON

Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-25 Thread 황병희
Hellow didier, didier gaumet writes: > (... thanks ...) > In fact you did not install Debian on your Chromebook but you enabled > Debian inside Chrome OS on your Chromebook(1), right? In this case > Debian runs in a Chrome OS container not on the hardware? Your > screenshot seems to show a Chro

Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-25 Thread didier gaumet
Le mercredi 25 mai 2022 à 08:50:05 UTC+2, 황병희 a écrit : > Antonino Saetta writes: > > > (... thanks ...) > > I thought that Debian is GNOME by default... > > > > Also, what's the lightest desktop? Default, XFCE or LXDE...? > Hellow, i am beginner with Debian. I install Debian 11 Bullseye on >

Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-24 Thread 황병희
Antonino Saetta writes: > (... thanks ...) > I thought that Debian is GNOME by default... > > Also, what's the lightest desktop? Default, XFCE or LXDE...? Hellow, i am beginner with Debian. I install Debian 11 Bullseye on Chromebook. But there is no Gnome desktop. I just launch each Linux app su

Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 24 May 2022 13:27:29 +0200 Antonino Saetta wrote: > Hi, > > After my surrender to Jessie I've thought of moving on with Stretch. > > Currently I've installed it through the net, no problems at all. > > So I was wondering, why am I asked to choose (or not

Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 02:23:46PM +0100, Brian wrote: > apt install task-xfce-desktop > apt unstall take-gnome-desktop > apt unstall xfce4 > etc Freudian typos.

Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-24 Thread Brian
at all. > > So I was wondering, why am I asked to choose (or not) a GNOME desktop > environment, other than *Debian desktop environment*? > > I thought that Debian is GNOME by default... It needn't be GNOME, but it has been for quite some time. > Also, what's the lig

Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-24 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 5/24/22 05:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 01:27:29PM +0200, Antonino Saetta wrote: So I was wondering, why am I asked to choose (or not) a GNOME desktop environment, other than *Debian desktop environment*? uncheck that box, select any other Desktop you want, or None

Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-24 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 5/24/22 04:53, Jeremy Ardley wrote: On 24/5/22 7:27 pm, Antonino Saetta wrote: Also, what's the lightest desktop? Default, XFCE or LXDE...? I use Mate.  It's closest to the old gnome so no fancy crap I am with you on that. BTW: the mate-desktop-environment-extras

Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 01:27:29PM +0200, Antonino Saetta wrote: > So I was wondering, why am I asked to choose (or not) a GNOME desktop > environment, other than *Debian desktop environment*? > > I thought that Debian is GNOME by default... *sigh* It's complicated. See, ther

Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-24 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 24/5/22 7:27 pm, Antonino Saetta wrote: Also, what's the lightest desktop? Default, XFCE or LXDE...? I use Mate.  It's closest to the old gnome so no fancy crap Jeremy OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Debian desktop environment

2022-05-24 Thread tomas
choose (or not) a GNOME desktop > environment, other than *Debian desktop environment*? > > I thought that Debian is GNOME by default... > > Also, what's the lightest desktop? Default, XFCE or LXDE...? The lightest desktop is no desktop :-) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Debian desktop environment

2022-05-24 Thread Antonino Saetta
Hi, After my surrender to Jessie I've thought of moving on with Stretch. Currently I've installed it through the net, no problems at all. So I was wondering, why am I asked to choose (or not) a GNOME desktop environment, other than *Debian desktop environment*? I thought that Debia

Re: Desktop environment and VNC

2022-04-24 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 07:49:08 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 08:57:36AM +0200, Julius Hamilton wrote: > > There are many VNC servers that can be installed from apt, but you also > > need a desktop environment, which can be installed from tasksel. > >

Re: Desktop environment and VNC

2022-04-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 08:57:36AM +0200, Julius Hamilton wrote: > There are many VNC servers that can be installed from apt, but you also > need a desktop environment, which can be installed from tasksel. > > I see in tasksel that I already have Debian Desktop Environment and GNOME

Desktop environment and VNC

2022-04-21 Thread Julius Hamilton
Hey, I am having some difficulty connecting to Debian 11 Bullseye via VNC. I am trying to understand the situation comprehensively. There are many VNC servers that can be installed from apt, but you also need a desktop environment, which can be installed from tasksel. I see in tasksel that I

Cutefish desktop environment

2022-03-03 Thread Christian Britz
Hi, I just installed the very promising new desktop environment from CutefishOS on my bullseye system. I learned that they offer an APT repository with pre-built binaries: deb [arch=amd64] http://packages.cutefishos.com bullseye main First impression: It looks really cute ;-). Very clean and

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-12-14 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Tuesday, 14 Dec 2021 at 09:14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > If at all possible, that system would benefit greatly from moving the > system to an SSD. I do have one system with an SSD and these drives do have an incredible positive performance impact. With respect to the system I have been referrin

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-12-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 13 dec 21, 11:40:15, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Friday, 10 Dec 2021 at 12:23, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > I've seen some hints on the web that slow storage can also have an > > impact, something to do with periodic flushing of some sqlite database > > to persistent storage. > > This is indeed

Re: Mate desktop environment: anything akin to update-notifier

2021-12-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 10:22:27AM +0100, didier gaumet wrote: [...] > Hello Tomas, Hello, Didier > > Both Peter & Lee have suggested more pertinent (GUI) options for an > ordinary user but for the record, either unattended-upgrades and cron- > apt can be configured to automatically update but

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-12-13 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Friday, 10 Dec 2021 at 12:23, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > I've seen some hints on the web that slow storage can also have an > impact, something to do with periodic flushing of some sqlite database > to persistent storage. This is indeed a very likely explanation. The disk drives on this system

Re: Mate desktop environment: anything akin to update-notifier

2021-12-13 Thread didier gaumet
Le dimanche 12 décembre 2021 à 18:01 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : [...] > I'm not looking for something doing the updates automatically (in the > kind of unattended-upgrades, for example). The user in question would > like to manually trigger the upgrades, to be aware of possible issues >

Re: Mate desktop environment: anything akin to update-notifier

2021-12-13 Thread tomas
On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 04:53:56PM -0500, Lee wrote: > On 12/12/21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > the user of pending APT updates? > I went looking a year or two ago & didn't find anything I liked. I > finally decided my crontab entry was good enuf: Thanks, Lee, nice idea. The user in

Re: Mate desktop environment: anything akin to update-notifier

2021-12-12 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 12/12/21 9:01 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Hi, is there anything in Debian's flavour of the Mate DE which notifies the user of pending APT updates? I use package-update-indicator I don't care for the default so I set the command for installing updates as synaptic-pkexec I'm not looki

Re: Mate desktop environment: anything akin to update-notifier

2021-12-12 Thread Lee
On 12/12/21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Hi, > > is there anything in Debian's flavour of the Mate DE which notifies > the user of pending APT updates? I went looking a year or two ago & didn't find anything I liked. I finally decided my crontab entry was good enuf: $ sudo crontab -l [sudo] passwo

Mate desktop environment: anything akin to update-notifier

2021-12-12 Thread tomas
Hi, is there anything in Debian's flavour of the Mate DE which notifies the user of pending APT updates? I'm not looking for something doing the updates automatically (in the kind of unattended-upgrades, for example). The user in question would like to manually trigger the upgrades, to be aware o

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 01 nov 21, 07:58:09, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Sunday, 31 Oct 2021 at 09:17, piorunz wrote: > > Nah. Problem is your computer, not Firefox. > > Rather dismissive? > > Everything else on this "slow" computer (yes, it's old but has 4 > dual-core Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 v2 @ 3.70GHz proc

Re: Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation?

2021-11-05 Thread Linux-Fan
t; > On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 7:21 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > > > > > With the "Live" installers, the default is different. > > > > > > > > And if I may ask: Why is it different? If there is a reason or two. > > > > > >

Re: Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation?

2021-11-05 Thread Brian
, Nov 5, 2021, 7:21 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon > > > > > > installation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation?

2021-11-05 Thread David Wright
ically use XFCE, so I wanted to test if leaving "Debian > > desktop environment" marked would affect or not my XFCE > > installation. > > > > It does. > > > > a) > > | [ ]  Debian desktop environment > > | [*]    XFCE > > > > b

Re: Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation?

2021-11-05 Thread Brian
On Fri 05 Nov 2021 at 16:44:04 +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 05 Nov 2021 at 16:28:36 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 12:50:23PM +0100, Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) > > wrote: > > > hv3 > > > > This is a web browser written in TCL/tK. What I suspect is happening is >

Re: Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation?

2021-11-05 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 04:04:17PM +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 05 Nov 2021 at 13:43:29 +, Tixy wrote: > > > On Fri, 2021-11-05 at 07:47 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 7:21 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > > >

Re: Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation?

2021-11-05 Thread Brian
On Fri 05 Nov 2021 at 16:28:36 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 12:50:23PM +0100, Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) wrote: > > hv3 > > This is a web browser written in TCL/tK. What I suspect is happening is > it's being pulled in to satisfy a dependency on "www-browser" virtua

Re: Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation?

2021-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 12:50:23PM +0100, Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) wrote: hv3 This is a web browser written in TCL/tK. What I suspect is happening is it's being pulled in to satisfy a dependency on "www-browser" virtual package by one of the desktop metapackages. libsqlite3-tcl libtcl8.6

Re: Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation?

2021-11-05 Thread Brian
On Fri 05 Nov 2021 at 13:43:29 +, Tixy wrote: > On Fri, 2021-11-05 at 07:47 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 7:21 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation

Re: Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation?

2021-11-05 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 11/5/21 4:50 AM, Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) wrote: Hi, I did some test by installing 2 identical virtualbox instances (EFI turned on) with the same netinst image . I typically use XFCE, so I wanted to test if leaving "Debian desktop environment" marked would affect or n

Re: Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation?

2021-11-05 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2021-11-05 at 07:47 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 7:21 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation? > > > > > > > > Right now, for the r

Re: Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation?

2021-11-05 Thread Brian
On Fri 05 Nov 2021 at 12:50:23 +0100, Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) wrote: > Hi, > > I did some test by installing 2 identical virtualbox instances (EFI turned > on) with the same netinst image . > > I typically use XFCE, so I wanted to test if leaving "Debian deskto

Re: Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation?

2021-11-05 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 7:21 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation? > > > > Right now, for the regular official installers (and also for the > unofficial installer with non-free firmware)

Re: Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation?

2021-11-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
> Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation? Assuming you install with one of the REGULAR installers (not one that contains the word "Live" anywhere in its name): yes. Selecting "Debian desktop environment" in the inst

Re: Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation?

2021-11-05 Thread Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
wanted to test if leaving "Debian desktop environment" marked would affect or not my XFCE installation. It does. a) | [ ]  Debian desktop environment | [*]    XFCE b) | [*]  Debian desktop environment | [*]    XFCE Using (b), I end up with 12 more installed packages.  I checked t

Re: Is "Debian desktop environment" identical to "GNOME" upon installation?

2021-11-05 Thread Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
Hi, I did some test by installing 2 identical virtualbox instances (EFI turned on) with the same netinst image . I typically use XFCE, so I wanted to test if leaving "Debian desktop environment" marked would affect or not my XFCE installation. It does. a) | [ ] Debian desktop e

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-11-01 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Monday, 1 Nov 2021 at 14:53, piorunz wrote: > Glad I could help you move to (hopefully) right direction. Thank you for all the suggestions. My solution is straightforward: I open Firefox when I need it (usually these days only for banking, using eww in Emacs for most everything else web rela

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-11-01 Thread piorunz
On 01/11/2021 14:02, Eric S Fraga wrote: Your comment about the GPU driver is helpful as I probably don't have the optimum graphics card settings (I do very little graphical work: mostly text in Emacs all day long...). I have an nvidia graphics card and my experience with nvidia has never been

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-11-01 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Monday, 1 Nov 2021 at 10:38, piorunz wrote: > Sorry if you felt offended. Not offended! :-) > No single application should slow down entire system with 32GB of RAM, 2 Agreed, it shouldn't. But my experience is that it does. Why? I don't know. Your comment about the GPU driver is helpful

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-11-01 Thread piorunz
On 01/11/2021 13:14, Tixy wrote: Sure it can, depends on how many processes and threads the application uses. E.g. transcoding a video will quite happily eat most of the time on all my CPUs In that case just decrease Firefox priority using htop when already running, or nice during starting Fire

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-11-01 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2021-11-01 at 10:38 +, piorunz wrote: > No single application should slow down entire system with 32GB of RAM, 2 > CPUs and multiple threads, unless something is misconfigured... Sure it can, depends on how many processes and threads the application uses. E.g. transcoding a video will

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-11-01 Thread piorunz
On 01/11/2021 07:58, Eric S Fraga wrote: On Sunday, 31 Oct 2021 at 09:17, piorunz wrote: Nah. Problem is your computer, not Firefox. Rather dismissive? Everything else on this "slow" computer (yes, it's old but has 4 dual-core Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 v2 @ 3.70GHz processors and 32 GB RAM

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-11-01 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Sunday, 31 Oct 2021 at 09:17, piorunz wrote: > Nah. Problem is your computer, not Firefox. Rather dismissive? Everything else on this "slow" computer (yes, it's old but has 4 dual-core Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 v2 @ 3.70GHz processors and 32 GB RAM) works just fine otherwise. Drive and me

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-10-31 Thread Linux-Fan
kaye n writes: SORRY I SHOULD HAVE SENT IT TO DEBIAN LIST Never mind, I am taking this as an OK to post my answer to the list :) On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 9:16 PM kaye n wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 10:35 PM Linux-Fan wrote: [...] I'd suggest to try debugging _why_ Firefox ha

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-10-31 Thread piorunz
On 31/10/2021 13:22, kaye n wrote: This currentLXQT /  Firefox slowing down computer issue is currently on the old desktop computer, which has access to good wifi speed. RAM of this desktop computer is 3GB only. I'm running an installed 11 system, not a live USB stick. Thank you. Please show sc

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-10-31 Thread kaye n
on't think the problem lies with Firefox though because I didn't > have > > > > that problem on Debian 10 XFCE. I am now running Debian 11 LXQT. > > > > > > > > I don't want to use XFCE again just because I want to try another. > &g

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-10-31 Thread piorunz
On 29/10/2021 13:56, kaye n wrote: For example when I'm using Firefox and I have about 10 to 12 websites opened in different tabs First tab is google, second is ebay, third is amazon, third is youtube, etc. That's when things get real slow. I have the CPU Monitor widget on the taskbar. It goes

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-10-31 Thread piorunz
On 29/10/2021 14:57, Eric S Fraga wrote: My experience is that Firefox, if you open too many tabs and especially some of the very javascript heavy ones, gets bogged down quite severely and requires restarting. It can slow the whole system down in my experience. Nah. Problem is your computer, n

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-10-29 Thread Christian Britz
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >> Maybe you're right about Firefox. Any "light" browsers you can recommend? > > If all else fails, you could try netsurf: maintained by Debian developers who > really care about the quality of their code. Interesting, I will have a look at it too, out of curiousity. I

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-10-29 Thread David Wright
ow running Debian 11 LXQT. > > > > > > I don't want to use XFCE again just because I want to try another. > > > > > > Could LXDE be better? Is there a way I can install LXDE to my existing > > > Debian 11 running LXQT? Or should I just fresh install Debi

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-10-29 Thread Linux-Fan
ot supported properly. I don't want to use XFCE again just because I want to try another. Could LXDE be better?  Is there a way I can install LXDE to my existing Debian 11 running LXQT?  Or should I just fresh install Debian 11 with LXDE as the default desktop environment? Adding LXDE

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-10-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
My experience is that Firefox, if you open too many tabs and especially some of the very javascript heavy ones, gets bogged down quite severely and requires restarting. It can slow the whole system down in my experience. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.60 & org 9.5 on Debian 11.1

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-10-29 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
n't have > > > that problem on Debian 10 XFCE. I am now running Debian 11 LXQT. > > > > > > I don't want to use XFCE again just because I want to try another. > > > > > > Could LXDE be better? Is there a way I can install LXDE to my existing

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-10-29 Thread kaye n
ause I want to try another. > > > > Could LXDE be better? Is there a way I can install LXDE to my existing > > Debian 11 running LXQT? Or should I just fresh install Debian 11 with > LXDE > > as the default desktop environment? > > > You could purge LXQT and i

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-10-29 Thread kaye n
On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 8:33 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > kaye n wrote: > > LXQT says, > > > > It will not get in your way. It will not hang or slow down your system. > > > > However, I've experienced the opposite, especially when I'm using Firefox > > browser and attempt to open several pages in diffe

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-10-29 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
hough because I didn't have > that problem on Debian 10 XFCE. I am now running Debian 11 LXQT. > > I don't want to use XFCE again just because I want to try another. > > Could LXDE be better? Is there a way I can install LXDE to my existing > Debian 11 running LXQT? Or

Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-10-29 Thread Dan Ritter
kaye n wrote: > LXQT says, > > It will not get in your way. It will not hang or slow down your system. > > However, I've experienced the opposite, especially when I'm using Firefox > browser and attempt to open several pages in different tabs. That's not likely to be LXQT's fault. Can you des

LXQT desktop environment hangs?

2021-10-29 Thread kaye n
ebian 11 with LXDE as the default desktop environment? Thank you for your time.

Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread deloptes
Kasper Loopstra wrote: > What is the best desktop environment or other application to try for this? There are ports of Sailfish OS for x86 or if not suitable something around nemomobile and the like https://sailfish-x86.yeheng.org/

Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Weaver
On 28-04-2021 22:13, Kasper Loopstra wrote: > On 28/04/2021 13:57, Weaver wrote: >> On 28-04-2021 21:20, Kasper Loopstra wrote: >>> On 28/04/2021 11:32, Weaver wrote: On 28-04-2021 19:04, Kasper Loopstra wrote: > I've also briefly tried to use Kodi, but that does not seem to support >

Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Kasper Loopstra
On 28/04/2021 13:57, Weaver wrote: On 28-04-2021 21:20, Kasper Loopstra wrote: On 28/04/2021 11:32, Weaver wrote: On 28-04-2021 19:04, Kasper Loopstra wrote: I've also briefly tried to use Kodi, but that does not seem to support launching external programs and/or webpages easily. I don't kn

Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Weaver
On 28-04-2021 21:20, Kasper Loopstra wrote: > On 28/04/2021 11:32, Weaver wrote: >> On 28-04-2021 19:04, Kasper Loopstra wrote: >>> I've also briefly tried to use Kodi, but that does not seem to support >>> launching external programs and/or webpages easily. >> I don't know about the rest, but Kodi

Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Kasper Loopstra
On 28/04/2021 11:32, Weaver wrote: On 28-04-2021 19:04, Kasper Loopstra wrote: I've also briefly tried to use Kodi, but that does not seem to support launching external programs and/or webpages easily. I don't know about the rest, but Kodi usually requires extensions installed in order access

Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Weaver
er `intellectual property' stipulations sometimes get in the way. Other than that, you shouldn't have any problems. Cheers! Harry. > Stuff like multi-touch in applications, pinch-to-zoom and 2 finger > scroll are not working either. > > > What is the best desktop envi

Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Kasper Loopstra
. Stuff like multi-touch in applications, pinch-to-zoom and 2 finger scroll are not working either. What is the best desktop environment or other application to try for this? Thanks, Kasper PS: Please put me on CC on replies, I'm not subscribed to the list.

Re: TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) vs KDE

2021-04-24 Thread Prof. Ramon Mulin
The Trinity is default DE on EOMA64 Debian version too! https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop P.s.: Sorry for my basic and poor english. I'm brazilian! *Ramon Mulin Professor de História* Em 24/04/2021 10:04, Felmon Davis escreveu: On Thu, 22 Apr 2021, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Trini

Re: TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) vs KDE

2021-04-24 Thread Felmon Davis
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Trinity is KDE 3 inspired so KDE from quite a while ago - it is lighterweight but it is tied very much to Q4OS which is Debian based but not pure Debian. my impression is that Q4OS is an offshoot of Trinity; I use it on one laptop more by acciden

Re: TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) vs KDE

2021-04-22 Thread deloptes
D. R. Evans wrote: > I will also say that the modern KDE look, with its rather astonishing > amount of wasted space, was not to my taste, although that was not the > principal reason why I installed TDE. > > The biggest two annoyances I find in TDE as compared to KDE are both in > Konqueror: a) t

Re: about Wayland (was: TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) vs KDE)

2021-04-22 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 5:46 PM Felix Miata wrote: > Kenneth Parker composed on 2021-04-22 17:33 (UTC-0400): > > > One thing, of course, about KDE Plasma is Wayland, instead of Xorg, which > > doesn't appear to support one of my, most used Laptops. > > Wayland isn't simple drop-in or replacement

Re: about Wayland (was: TDE (Trinity Desktop Environment) vs KDE)

2021-04-22 Thread Felix Miata
Kenneth Parker composed on 2021-04-22 17:33 (UTC-0400): > One thing, of course, about KDE Plasma is Wayland, instead of Xorg, which > doesn't appear to support one of my, most used Laptops. Wayland isn't simple drop-i

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