Re: Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
> With multi-seat (ISTR the term originated at Redhat), people started > to re-invent what a "user session" means. In a confusingly and quite > irritatingly new manner, mind you. So you now (yay!) can have two Gnome > sessions. But you pay the price that a Gnome session is quite a different > beast

Re: Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread tomas
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 04:13:59PM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote: > On Nov 11, 2024, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: [...] > > Multiseat is one particular form of multiuser computer. There are > > lots of other forms. A computer where one person at a time uses it is > > called a single user computer

Re: Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread gene heskett
On 11/11/24 16:14, Dan Purgert wrote: On Nov 11, 2024, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 13:33:08 +0100, Roger Price wrote: I'm guessing "version". How about Debian 12 (bookworm). Have you read https://wiki.debian.org/Multi_Seat_Debian_HOWTO ?

Re: Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread Dan Purgert
On Nov 11, 2024, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 13:33:08 +0100, Roger Price wrote: > > > I'm guessing "version". How about Debian 12 (bookworm). Have you > > > read https://wiki.debian.org/Multi_Seat_Debian_HOWTO ? > > > > Oh. I've learne

Re: Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024, 8:10 AM Bret Busby wrote: > On 11/11/24 22:00, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > On 11 Nov 2024 21:24 +0800, from b...@busby.net (Bret Busby): > >> Whilst this computer that I am using, has about ten USB sockets > (including > >> four on the front), I expect that a similar worksta

Re: Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread Joe
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 13:33:08 +0100 (CET) Roger Price wrote: > On Mon, 11 Nov 2024, brian mckee wrote: > > > I have a work station.   > > If I put debian on it. > > I want it to have 5 monsters. > > I'm guessing 5 "monitors". > > > 5 key boards. > > 5 mice. > > So 5 people can long in. At sam

Re: Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread debian-user
Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 11 Nov 2024 21:24 +0800, from b...@busby.net (Bret Busby): > > Whilst this computer that I am using, has about ten USB sockets > > (including four on the front), I expect that a similar workstation > > to this, would be required, or, a proper server, with all of the >

Re: Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread debian-user
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 13:33:08 +0100, Roger Price wrote: > > I'm guessing "version". How about Debian 12 (bookworm). Have you > > read https://wiki.debian.org/Multi_Seat_Debian_HOWTO ? > > Oh. I've learned something today. I looked at that page and what I immediatel

Re: Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread eben
On 11/11/24 07:39, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 03:26:26 +, brian mckee wrote: I have a work station. If I put debian on it. I want it to have 5 monsters. 5 key boards. 5 mice. So 5 people can long in. At same time. What Verizon should I download Autocorrect is a monitor.

Re: Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Bret Busby wrote: > With the "5 monsters", each having a separate keyboard and mouse, I wonder > whether the "monsters" means users... > > UNIX, to serve up to 32 users), and that, if this is the case, the > workstation would need to have 5 video sockets and 10 USB sockets to serve > the keyboard

Re: Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread Bret Busby
On 11/11/24 22:00, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 11 Nov 2024 21:24 +0800, from b...@busby.net (Bret Busby): Whilst this computer that I am using, has about ten USB sockets (including four on the front), I expect that a similar workstation to this, would be required, or, a proper server, with all of

Re: Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread Roger Price
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024, Bret Busby wrote: ..., the workstation would need to have 5 video sockets and 10 USB sockets to serve the keyboards and meeces, or, if the monitors can be served from USB sockets, 15 USB sockets. .. I expect that a similar workstation to this, would be required, or, a pro

Re: Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 11 Nov 2024 21:24 +0800, from b...@busby.net (Bret Busby): > Whilst this computer that I am using, has about ten USB sockets (including > four on the front), I expect that a similar workstation to this, would be > required, or, a proper server, with all of the required sockets, both > options be

Re: Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread Luna Jernberg
Xorg Den mån 11 nov. 2024 kl 14:50 skrev Michael Kjörling : > > On 11 Nov 2024 06:51 -0600, from nickgeova...@gmail.com (Nicholas Geovanis): > > In principle it should be possible with any X-Windows system. But I don't > > know if xfree86 itself can do that, it might require the X display manager

Re: Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 11 Nov 2024 06:51 -0600, from nickgeova...@gmail.com (Nicholas Geovanis): > In principle it should be possible with any X-Windows system. But I don't > know if xfree86 itself can do that, it might require the X display manager > and full X-Windows. Pretty sure Debian hasn't used XFree86 in a ve

Re: Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread Bret Busby
On 11/11/24 20:33, Roger Price wrote: On Mon, 11 Nov 2024, brian mckee wrote: I have a work station. If I put debian on it. I want it to have 5 monsters. I'm guessing 5 "monitors". 5 key boards. 5 mice. So 5 people can long in. At same time. I'm guessing "login".  It's sometimes called Mu

Re: Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024, 6:43 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 13:33:08 +0100, Roger Price wrote: > > I'm guessing "version". How about Debian 12 (bookworm). Have you read > > https://wiki.debian.org/Multi_Seat_Debian_HOWTO ? > > Oh. I've learned something today. > In principle

Re: Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 03:26:26 +, brian mckee wrote: > I have a work station. > If I put debian on it. > I want it to have 5 monsters. > 5 key boards. > 5 mice. > So 5 people can long in. At same time. > What Verizon should I download Autocorrect is a monitor. I mean, monster. What you're

Re: Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 13:33:08 +0100, Roger Price wrote: > I'm guessing "version". How about Debian 12 (bookworm). Have you read > https://wiki.debian.org/Multi_Seat_Debian_HOWTO ? Oh. I've learned something today.

Multi seat. Was Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread Roger Price
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024, brian mckee wrote: I have a work station.   If I put debian on it. I want it to have 5 monsters. I'm guessing 5 "monitors". 5 key boards. 5 mice. So 5 people can long in. At same time. I'm guessing "login". It's sometimes called Multi Seat. What Verizon should I dow

Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread brian mckee
I have a work station. If I put debian on it. I want it to have 5 monsters. 5 key boards. 5 mice. So 5 people can long in. At same time. What Verizon should I download Get Outlook for Android

Re: Debian versions

2023-08-01 Thread Dominik George
Hi, > Outside Debian there are companies producing operating systems based on > Debian and providing commercial support for those operating systems, > probably the biggest example is Ubuntu provided by Canonical: > > https://ubuntu.com/ > https://canonical.com/ Yet, if at all possible, you should

Re: Debian versions

2023-08-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, 2023-08-01 at 13:50 -0600, Alan Serrano Peña wrote: > Is there a commercial version of Debian? > Any version with technical support? The Debian project provides the Debian operating system for free and provides technical support for free by volunteers. In addition, there are a number of

Re: Debian versions

2023-08-01 Thread Danial Behzadi
Good afternoon, I have a question about Debian versions. Is there a commercial version of Debian? Any version with technical support? No, Debian is a free software, but you can get commercial support from third-parties. I was reading on the website that there is a version called Debian LTS

Re: Debian versions

2023-08-01 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 4:15 PM Alan Serrano Peña wrote: > Good afternoon, I have a question about Debian versions. Is there a > commercial version of Debian? Any version with technical support? I was > reading on the website that there is a version called Debian LTS, > specifical

Debian versions

2023-08-01 Thread Alan Serrano Peña
Good afternoon, I have a question about Debian versions. Is there a commercial version of Debian? Any version with technical support? I was reading on the website that there is a version called Debian LTS, specifically Debian 10 "Buster," but I'm not sure if this version meets

Memory allocation differences across debian versions

2019-10-11 Thread Christopher Hesse
Hi! I have a server that keeps open about 100k to 200k TCP connections. I'm seeing some memory allocation differences between different debian versions and I have not been able to track down why the allocations are different. Here are examples from 3 instances, all on GCE. In the first

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-12 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 11/06/2019 à 21:45, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit : On 06/11/2019 02:20 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: IMO installing GRUB can be desirable for two reasons. 1) Obviously, it allows the drive to boot by itself so that you can move it into another machine, or remove the current boot drive, or chan

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-11 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 06/11/2019 02:20 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 11/06/2019 ?? 13:36, songbird a ??crit : what i'm not sure of is if you need to bother with putting the grub bootloader on it so at the end where it asks you perhaps you can skip that step. IMO installing GRUB can be desirable for two rea

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-11 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 11/06/2019 à 13:36, songbird a écrit : what i'm not sure of is if you need to bother with putting the grub bootloader on it so at the end where it asks you perhaps you can skip that step. IMO installing GRUB can be desirable for two reasons. 1) Obviously, it allows the drive to boot by

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-11 Thread songbird
Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > My Debian platform has four drives: > > NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT > sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 disk > ??sda1 8:1 0 457.9G 0 part / > ??sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part > ??sda5 8:5 0 7.9G 0 part [SWAP] > sdb 8:16 0 1.8T 0 disk > ??sdb1 8:17 0 1.8T 0 part /sdb1 >

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-10 Thread David Christensen
On 6/10/19 7:04 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: My Debian platform has four drives: NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 disk ??sda1 8:1 0 457.9G 0 part / ??sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part ??sda5 8:5 0 7.9G 0 part [SWAP] sdb 8:16 0 1.8T 0 disk ??sdb1 8:17 0 1.8T 0 part /s

Re: Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 10/06/2019 à 16:04, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit : sda is a 500 GB SSD, currently the boot drive, running Stretch (...) I am planning on adding a 1 TB SSD to the system to be dedicated to Buster (currently Testing). I know that if I select the new drive (for the purpose of this note, sdd) f

Dual Boot Two Debian Versions

2019-06-10 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
My Debian platform has four drives: NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda 8:0 0 465.8G 0 disk ??sda1 8:1 0 457.9G 0 part / ??sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part ??sda5 8:5 0 7.9G 0 part [SWAP] sdb 8:16 0 1.8T 0 disk ??sdb1 8:17 0 1.8T 0 part /sdb1 ??sdb2 8:18 0 1K 0 part ??sdb5 8:2

Re: ISO 8601 Date/Time format in future Debian versions

2019-06-01 Thread David Wright
On Wed 29 May 2019 at 01:00:27 (+0200), Garret Robinson wrote: > It is extremely frustrating to have different time/date formats scattered > throughout one's operating system. If you say so. I find different formats appropriate in different circumstances. For example, my screen clock is analogue,

ISO 8601 Date/Time format in future Debian versions

2019-05-28 Thread Garret Robinson
It is extremely frustrating to have different time/date formats scattered throughout one's operating system. Even when one modifies one's Region & Language for an international standard (e.g., by setting en_US.UTF-8 as default but editing the LC_TIME section to copy en_DK.UTF-8), one encounters

Re: develop for older debian versions

2017-08-15 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 05:41:46PM +0200, S. Jacobi wrote: > I develop software that should run on older debian releases starting > with wheezy. I would build directly in a VM with such an install, but > the problem is that my toolchain requires some rather modern pieces > which are not available i

develop for older debian versions

2017-08-15 Thread S. Jacobi
I develop software that should run on older debian releases starting with wheezy. I would build directly in a VM with such an install, but the problem is that my toolchain requires some rather modern pieces which are not available in those versions. Most libraries will be linked statically, the onl

Re: [OT] [politics] Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 09 August 2014 21:42:32 Iain M Conochie wrote: > I find it interesting that you feel more in control of a privately > funded corporation than a legitimate arm of a sovereign government. It > is obvious what the NSA want to do (snoop), I'm not so sure what google > want to do. > > Almost

[OT] [politics] Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-09 Thread Iain M Conochie
On 03/08/14 00:21, Joel Rees wrote: Google has too much money and is out of control. The NSA has too much money and is out of our control. I find it interesting that you feel more in control of a privately funded corporation than a legitimate arm of a sovereign government. It is obvious wha

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-07 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Mark Carroll wrote: > Bret Busby writes: > >> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan >> wrote: >>> On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > At least that you've noticed. (-: A persistently irritating problem with > both Skype

Re: Australian law was: Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-04 Thread Joel Rees
Well, now maybe I can find a place to sort of drag this thread back almost on topic for the list. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 4/08/2014 9:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Monday 04 August 2014 09:44:31 Andrew McGlashan wrote: >>> I wonder about Kirby myself. To me,

Re: Australian law was: Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-04 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 4/08/2014 9:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 04 August 2014 09:44:31 Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> I wonder about Kirby myself. To me, it shouldn't be the court deciding >> a matter of fact via *their* opinion. If the law says "xa" and the >> opinion says "xb" ... then it is up to the parliam

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-04 Thread Curt
On 2014-08-04, Bret Busby wrote: > > I think that this sub-thread has digressed from both the original > post, and, from the nature of the mailing list, too far. > No shit. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listm

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 August 2014 10:08:59 Bret Busby wrote: > I disagree with you on a number of points, but, I believe, it would be > inappropriate to further discuss these points, in this thread, and, on > this list. Good for you and sorry. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.

Australian law was: Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 August 2014 09:44:31 Andrew McGlashan wrote: > I wonder about Kirby myself.  To me, it shouldn't be the court deciding > a matter of fact via *their* opinion.  If the law says "xa" and the > opinion says "xb" ... then it is up to the parliament to correct the > situation if it is fault

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-04 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Bret Busby wrote: > On 04/08/2014, Joel Rees wrote: >> [...] >> > > Yeah, okay. > > But, some people with whom I have communicated, do not want others to > see them, when they are talking to them. > > And, to me, Skype was a wonderful facility - video calls are a >

use of video w/skype [was: Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7]

2014-08-04 Thread ken
On 08/04/2014 01:36 AM Bret Busby wrote: How many different people do you want to be able to video chat with? >What's your purpose? Figure out what you want to do, and you probably >don't need skype at all. > Relatives and acquaintances (for me), would be good, and, some people of whom I have no

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-04 Thread Bret Busby
On 04/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Hi Bret, > > On 3/08/2014 8:47 PM, Bret Busby wrote: Actually we are subject to a bill of rights, see here: http://www.clrg.info/2011/02/validity-of-bill-of-rights-1688/ >>> That applies only to Victoria - I believe that, like motor vehicle >

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-04 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi Bret, On 3/08/2014 8:47 PM, Bret Busby wrote: >>> Actually we are subject to a bill of rights, see here: >>> http://www.clrg.info/2011/02/validity-of-bill-of-rights-1688/ >>> >> That applies only to Victoria - I believe that, like motor vehicle >> roadworthiness testing, human rights legislatio

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 04/08/2014, Joel Rees wrote: > On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 03/08/2014, Joel Rees wrote: >>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Bret Busby wrote: On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: >> >> >> >>> And the reas

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread mett
On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 03:05:28 -0400 Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Bret Busby > wrote: > > > > I have found, in the last day, that Microsoft has apparently > > cancelled Skype access for versions of Debian before 7.x. > > > > With the error message that I encountered, with my Skype

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Bret Busby wrote: > On 03/08/2014, Joel Rees wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan >>> wrote: On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: > > > >> And the reason I decided to respond was to ask your reason fo

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 05:30:47 +1000 Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > There is no substitute for Skype (either the software or the > > service) whether it be open or closed source, > > What about Google Han

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Mark Carroll
Bret Busby writes: > On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: >> On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: >>> On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >>> There is no substitute for Skype (either the software or the service) >>> whether it be open or closed source, >> >> What about Goo

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Microsoft and Google are great big US companies ... that's a problem > just to start with; the US Government or any of their agents can easily > destroy all your privacy any time they like. Are you assuming US companies only gangrape your

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: >> On 3/08/2014 6:46 PM, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan >>> wrote: On 3/08/2014 9:21 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan >> > >> >>> And, in terms of party polit

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 3/08/2014 6:46 PM, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan >> wrote: >>> On 3/08/2014 9:21 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan > >> I do not have a smart phone - I have an "Oldies Phone" - an unblocked >> Telstra

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 3/08/2014 6:46 PM, Bret Busby wrote: > On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: >> On 3/08/2014 9:21 AM, Joel Rees wrote: On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan > I do not have a smart phone - I have an "Oldies Phone" - an unblocked > Telstra EasyCall, with decent sized buttons, made in Taiwan,

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: >> In terms of hardware, I don't want any fingerprint readers, nor do I >> want any other unwanted spying /tools/ to be available to the spooks. >> Anything with Intel inside is also suspect for similar reasons to the

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 3/08/2014 9:21 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >>> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan >>> wrote: > If you have a smart phone, chances are it is Android (Google owned IP > and control) or iOS (Apple owned IP and control). Even if you have a > Linux based phone (oth

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 3/08/2014 9:21 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan >> wrote: >>> What about Google Hangouts? That might be a reasonable substitute >>> >> Google? That is even more sinister than the NSA, isn't it? The NSA >> doesn't drive around suburbia, filming everyone in their yard

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > There must be an alternative to Skype. > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/fed-up-with-skype-here-are-6-of-the-best-free-alternatives/ In theory but not in practice - unless you want to use one of the above and talk to yourself. -- To UN

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Bret Busby wrote: > > I have found, in the last day, that Microsoft has apparently cancelled > Skype access for versions of Debian before 7.x. > > With the error message that I encountered, with my Skype 2.2 (beta) > running on Debian 6, I went to the Skype web site

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Paul Ausbeck
What is the difference between Microsoft insisting that Bret upgrade from Debian 6 to 7 and other Debian users insisting that Bret upgrade from Debian 6 to 7. Don't Debians know why they don't like Microsoft? !systemd, !systemd, !systemd On 8/2/2014 4:55 PM, Bret Busby wrote: On 03/08/2014, J

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 06:42:38AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: > > On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: > >> On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > >> There is no substitute for Skype (either the software or the service) > >> whether it be

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread AW
Unfortunately, software has bugs. Some of these bugs are probably very bad. I don't work for Microsoft, and I don't use Skype. In fact, I haven't used a Microsoft product in many years --- and I would refuse to use one now mostly on principle However, I wouldn't be too surprised that there's

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 03/08/2014, AW wrote: >> > > > >> So, for many users a Skype client is necessary... unless Microsoft >> decided to work on making Skype fully interoperable with other SIP >> servers. Although, I somehow doubt this would ever happen. >> >> But... To the OP..

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, AW wrote: > > So, for many users a Skype client is necessary... unless Microsoft > decided to work on making Skype fully interoperable with other SIP > servers. Although, I somehow doubt this would ever happen. > > But... To the OP... Debian 6 is no longer a supported version. >

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Joel Rees wrote: > On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan >> wrote: >>> On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: > And the reason I decided to respond was to ask your reason for not > wanting to use wheezy. Or, rather, if your reason is m

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread AW
I've tried linphone once or twice. The basic issue with SIP phones is that it's not really possible to jump networks. It's kind of like a cellphone network where you can only dial other subscribers of the same network. http://en.flossmanuals.net/linphone/ So, for many users a Skype client is ne

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Any experiences with linphone, an open source, multi-platform alternative? > -- > Regards, > jvp. > > Hello. Yes - I tried that, to connect with another person using Linux, and it did not work. Queries were posted to the Linphone list, in February last

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Bret Busby wrote: > On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: >> On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: >>> On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >>> There is no substitute for Skype (either the software or the service) >>> whether it be open or close

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Any experiences with linphone, an open source, multi-platform alternative? -- Regards, jvp. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/lrjr2q$d46$1...@ger.gman

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Brian wrote: > On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > >> Hello. >> >> I have found, in the last day, that Microsoft has apparently cancelled >> Skype access for versions of Debian before 7.x. > > How did you find out? (Please excuse the verbose and convoluted mat

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: >> On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >> There is no substitute for Skype (either the software or the service) >> whether it be open or closed source, > > What about Google Hangouts? That might be a r

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Stephen Maxwell wrote: > > Hello, > > There was an email sent out by Skype within the last couple of weeks which > stated that I was using an old version of skype that would cease to function > if I > did not update (deleted the email). > I did not receive that email message. Belo

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: > On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > There is no substitute for Skype (either the software or the service) > whether it be open or closed source, What about Google Hangouts? That might be a reasonable substitute I haven't used Skype

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Stephen Maxwell
Hello, There was an email sent out by Skype within the last couple of weeks which stated that I was using an old version of skype that would cease to function if I did not update (deleted the email). The below post on the Skype blog states "So everyone can benefit from the latest improvemen

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Brian
On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > I have found, in the last day, that Microsoft has apparently cancelled > Skype access for versions of Debian before 7.x. How did you find out? > With the error message that I encountered, with my Skype 2.2 (beta) > running on

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Bret Busby wrote: > Insofar as I am aware, no open source equivalent, that works, is > available for Debian 6. Of skype?! Don't think so, no. I guess you can always chroot it. Or try ubuntu packages. I doubt M$ will put any efforts in releasing non-Windows versions

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 08/02/2014 02:29 PM, Bret Busby wrote: > I have found, in the last day, that Microsoft has apparently cancelled > Skype access for versions of Debian before 7.x. > > With the error message that I encountered, with my Skype 2.2 (beta) > running on Debian 6, I went to the Skype web site, and found

Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Bret Busby
Hello. I have found, in the last day, that Microsoft has apparently cancelled Skype access for versions of Debian before 7.x. With the error message that I encountered, with my Skype 2.2 (beta) running on Debian 6, I went to the Skype web site, and found that they have cancelled access for all bu

Re: create a package for multiple debian versions

2009-09-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-09-11 09:07, Marek Simon wrote: Hi, I am working on a autbuilding system to build my packeges. I want to make packages for both lenny and etch version. But the package changes some other aplication's config and the configuration is different for both version - the postinst and postrm s

Re: create a package for multiple debian versions

2009-09-11 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 11 September 2009 09:07:16 Marek Simon wrote: > I want to > make packages for both lenny and etch version. But the package changes > some other aplication's config and the configuration is different for > both version. Is that even allowed for an official Debian package? I don't think s

create a package for multiple debian versions

2009-09-11 Thread Marek Simon
Hi, I am working on a autbuilding system to build my packeges. I want to make packages for both lenny and etch version. But the package changes some other aplication's config and the configuration is different for both version - the postinst and postrm scripts are totaly different. The basic p

Re: Where to find old debian versions?

2009-03-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
Just a note that this thread has finally convinced me to go and add the emacs19 and emacs20 packages to my Debian installation. It took some tweaking (adding a few dummy packages to fill in dependencies, plus silence some post-inst script failures), but it appears to work well. Thanks, S

Re: Where to find old debian versions?

2009-03-12 Thread Jason Voorhees
gt; P.D.: Does someone know what debian version included MySQL Server 3.x? >> > >> > http://archive.debian.net >> > http://archive.debian.net/mysql-server >> > >> >> Maybe I'm getting blind but I can't find iso images of those debian &g

Re: Where to find old debian versions?

2009-03-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Server 3.x? > > > > http://archive.debian.net > > http://archive.debian.net/mysql-server > > > > Maybe I'm getting blind but I can't find iso images of those debian > versions, only pool repositories. > Is there any iso image available of old debians yet? If not... ho

Re: Where to find old debian versions?

2009-03-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Server 3.x? > > > > http://archive.debian.net > > http://archive.debian.net/mysql-server > > > > Maybe I'm getting blind but I can't find iso images of those debian > versions, only pool repositories. Right. I only answered your second question. I believe someon

Re: Where to find old debian versions?

2009-03-11 Thread Jason Voorhees
be I'm getting blind but I can't find iso images of those debian versions, only pool repositories. Is there any iso image available of old debians yet? If not... how could I install them without iso images? > -- > Tzafrir Cohen         | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is > http://tza

Re: Where to find old debian versions?

2009-03-11 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 04:14:59PM -0500, Jason Voorhees wrote: > P.D.: Does someone know what debian version included MySQL Server 3.x? http://archive.debian.net http://archive.debian.net/mysql-server -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il |

Re: Where to find old debian versions?

2009-03-11 Thread Daryl Styrk
Jason Voorhees wrote: Hi: Does anybody know where can I get the iso images of debian potato, woody and sarge maybe? I need to do some tests with old versions of some packages. Thanks P.D.: Does someone know what debian version included MySQL Server 3.x? http://www.debian.org/distrib/archi

Where to find old debian versions?

2009-03-11 Thread Jason Voorhees
Hi: Does anybody know where can I get the iso images of debian potato, woody and sarge maybe? I need to do some tests with old versions of some packages. Thanks P.D.: Does someone know what debian version included MySQL Server 3.x? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.

Re: Beta4 Installer - Multiple Debian Versions?

2004-05-27 Thread Micha Feigin
On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 09:43:31AM -0400, Adam Aube wrote: > Kenneth Jacker wrote: > > > I've been doing some experimental installs (which, BTW, have worked > > perfectly so far) using the Beta4 installer: > > Good. Have you been filing install reports? > > > The console "login" screen shows the

Re: Beta4 Installer - Multiple Debian Versions?

2004-05-27 Thread Adam Aube
Kenneth Jacker wrote: > I've been doing some experimental installs (which, BTW, have worked > perfectly so far) using the Beta4 installer: Good. Have you been filing install reports? > The console "login" screen shows the following: > > Debian GNU/Linux testing/unstable foobar tty1 Th

Re: Beta4 Installer - Multiple Debian Versions?

2004-05-26 Thread Sylvain Vedrenne
On Wednesday 26 May 2004 18:51, Kenneth Jacker wrote: KJ> I've been doing some experimental installs (which, BTW, have worked KJ> perfectly so far) using the Beta4 installer: KJ> KJ> ../sarge_d-i/i386/beta4/sarge-i386-netinst.iso. KJ> KJ> KJ> The console "login" screen shows the following:

Beta4 Installer - Multiple Debian Versions?

2004-05-26 Thread Kenneth Jacker
I've been doing some experimental installs (which, BTW, have worked perfectly so far) using the Beta4 installer: ../sarge_d-i/i386/beta4/sarge-i386-netinst.iso. The console "login" screen shows the following: Debian GNU/Linux testing/unstable foobar tty1 foobar login

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-05-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 04:06:30PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > * Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:03:18:20:05:40-0800] scribed: > >> Your best bet if you don't want to reinstall is watch closely after > >> sarge goes stable for a new unstable

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-05-20 Thread Paul Johnson
Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:03:18:20:05:40-0800] scribed: > > >> Not particularly. I've never downgraded libc successfully on a >> machine across major version changes without having to reinstall. >> Your best bet if you don't want to

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