Been off the mailing list for a short time but I found something that's
probably common knowledge by now, but I'll post it anyway.
After a fresh install of Stretch my networking, especially my wifi
networking, took a turn for the worse, neither NM nor wicd working to
any degree of connection r
On 09/15/2017 08:31 AM, Fungi4All wrote:
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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
On 09/11/2017 02:27 PM, Fungi4All wrote:
From: a...@cityscape.co.uk
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
You have gone to a lot of trouble to type this. We appreciate it.
Does it answer anyth
> From: field.engin...@gmail.com
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> On 09/11/2017 02:27 PM, Fungi4All wrote:
>>> From: a...@cityscape.co.uk
>>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
>>> You have gone to a lot of trouble to type this. We appreciate it.
>>> Does it answer anything.
>>> Is Chevrolet
On 09/11/2017 02:27 PM, Fungi4All wrote:
From: a...@cityscape.co.uk
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
You have gone to a lot of trouble to type this. We appreciate it.
Does it answer anything.
Is Chevrolet an OS (Operating System)?
No, but there are similarities.
They are both systems, one is
> From: to...@tuxteam.de
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> You"re getting the same welcome package
> and a handsome weekly check of $ 0, as we all are getting. No trial period.
I like to see the fine print, of what I can and can not say.
> You"re hired, *NOW*
Who! Who is hiring?
>> Now do y
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On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 05:27:05PM -0400, Fungi4All wrote:
[...]
> The customer support (this list/or the Chevy sales dept) have the same nasty
> attitude. Every time the customer complains of something the "experts"
> instead
> of trying to see [.
> From: a...@cityscape.co.uk
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> On Wed 06 Sep 2017 at 14:29:35 -0400, Fungi4All wrote:
>
>> - Hello,
>> Is this the Chevrolet users" support group?
>> I just bought this new Chevy and I am having all kinds of problems I"ve
>> never had before with a Chevy or any
On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 08:12:21AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 07:57:58AM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> > That's fascinating because I found the opposite -- my circa-2009
> > self-built Intel Core i7 920-based machine surged ahead when I upgraded
> > from jessie to stret
When I started this particular thread I was just interested in whether
or not anyone else was experiencing similar performance issues, video,
network or otherwise. The answer is clearly, yes.
I like the rather long winded, not-really-to-the-point Chevrolet
comparison. Especially since I'm a
On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 07:57:58AM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> That's fascinating because I found the opposite -- my circa-2009
> self-built Intel Core i7 920-based machine surged ahead when I upgraded
> from jessie to stretch -- really felt like everything was that little
> bit more alive. I'
Borden Rhodes writes:
> You can't say that something is a stable upgrade from the previous
> version and then be surprised that users are annoyed when they find it
> isn't.
When annoyed users are unable or unwilling – and I make no judgement
here, in what we've seen described in this thread, abo
>> - Hello,
>> Is this the Chevrolet users' support group?
>> I just bought this new Chevy and I am having all kinds of problems I've
>> never had before with a Chevy or any other car for that matter.
>> - What problems are you having, because all other owners are happy.
>> - Pretty much anythi
On 08/21/2017 06:00 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
Borden Rhodes writes:
Interesting. I have 3 machines running Stretch. I originally went from
Wheezy stable to Stretch Testing and let Stretch slide back into stable.
I have had absolutely no problems with stability or speed. Although I do
find that the
On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 09:18:04AM -0700, tony mollica wrote:
> It's time. Can't stand it any longer so Jessie to get reinstalled.
>
> This fresh install of Stretch has given me network problems, slow display to
> the point of having to wait for a mouse click or wheel movement to take
> effect al
On Wed 06 Sep 2017 at 14:29:35 -0400, Fungi4All wrote:
> - Hello,
> Is this the Chevrolet users' support group?
> I just bought this new Chevy and I am having all kinds of problems I've never
> had before with a Chevy or any other car for that matter.
> - What problems are you having, because a
tony mollica writes:
> This fresh install of Stretch has given me network problems, slow
> display to the point of having to wait for a mouse click or wheel
> movement to take effect along with some other less important changes
> that needed to be disabled, bypassed or otherwise massaged to work.
- Hello,
Is this the Chevrolet users' support group?
I just bought this new Chevy and I am having all kinds of problems I've never
had before with a Chevy or any other car for that matter.
- What problems are you having, because all other owners are happy.
- Pretty much anything I was used to d
On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 09:18:04AM -0700, tony mollica wrote:
> This fresh install of Stretch has given me network problems, slow display to
> the point of having to wait for a mouse click or wheel movement to take
> effect [...]
Sounds like video drivers and firmware, again.
The Linux kernel phi
It's time. Can't stand it any longer so Jessie to get reinstalled.
This fresh install of Stretch has given me network problems, slow
display to the point of having to wait for a mouse click or wheel
movement to take effect along with some other less important changes
that needed to be disable
On 2017-08-27, Mario Castelán Castro wrote:
> On 26/08/17 20:36, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>> On 2017-08-25, Borden Rhodes wrote:
>>> I encourage everyone to check out "How to Irritate People salesmen" on=
>
>>> your favourite community video streaming site. That's how I've found
>>> FOSS support: "Bes
On 26/08/17 20:36, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On 2017-08-25, Borden Rhodes wrote:
>> I encourage everyone to check out "How to Irritate People salesmen" on
>> your favourite community video streaming site. That's how I've found
>> FOSS support: "Best software in the world. No problems at all. But if
>>
On 2017-08-25, Borden Rhodes wrote:
(...)
> I encourage everyone to check out "How to Irritate People salesmen" on
> your favourite community video streaming site. That's how I've found
> FOSS support: "Best software in the world. No problems at all. But if
> you find a problem, file a bug and w
On 2017-08-24, Dejan Jocic wrote:
>> >
>> > Do you find checking for possible rootkits is useless, or you are just
>> > not happy how rkhunter performs that function?
>>
>> A well-documented case of rkhunter discovering a rootkit in the last
>> ten years (the 1000s of false positives do not coun
Borden Rhodes writes:
> To answer an earlier question about why I don't report all the bugs I
> find in software: I choose my battles.
I don't recall anyone asking why you don't report all bugs you find in
software, that would be a fatuous question.
You were asked specifically about the bugs in
>> > Do you find checking for possible rootkits is useless, or you are just
>> > not happy how rkhunter performs that function?
>>
>> A well-documented case of rkhunter discovering a rootkit in the last
>> ten years (the 1000s of false positives do not count) would go a long
>> way to establishing
On 24-08-17, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 21:56:51 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:
>
> > On 24-08-17, Brian wrote:
> > > On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 21:31:55 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 24-08-17, Brian wrote:
> > > > > On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 21:16:26 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> > > > >
On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 21:56:51 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> On 24-08-17, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 21:31:55 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> >
> > > On 24-08-17, Brian wrote:
> > > > On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 21:16:26 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 24-08-17, Brian wrote:
> > >
On 24-08-17, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 21:31:55 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:
>
> > On 24-08-17, Brian wrote:
> > > On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 21:16:26 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 24-08-17, Brian wrote:
> > > > > > The alternative would be to reconfigure rkhunter.
> > > > >
> >
On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 21:31:55 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> On 24-08-17, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 21:16:26 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> >
> > > On 24-08-17, Brian wrote:
> > > > On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 15:44:30 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi there
> > > > >
> >
On 24-08-17, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 21:16:26 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:
>
> > On 24-08-17, Brian wrote:
> > > On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 15:44:30 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi there
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 24/08/17 15:39, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >As of
On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 21:16:26 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> On 24-08-17, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 15:44:30 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote:
> >
> > > Hi there
> > >
> > >
> > > On 24/08/17 15:39, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > >
> > > >As of Stretch, the standard OpenSSH sshd does not supp
On 24-08-17, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 15:44:30 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote:
>
> > Hi there
> >
> >
> > On 24/08/17 15:39, Dan Ritter wrote:
> >
> > >As of Stretch, the standard OpenSSH sshd does not support
> > >Protocol 1, so there's no particular reason to enforce it
> > >by s
On Thu 24 Aug 2017 at 15:44:30 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote:
> Hi there
>
>
> On 24/08/17 15:39, Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> >As of Stretch, the standard OpenSSH sshd does not support
> >Protocol 1, so there's no particular reason to enforce it
> >by stating Protocol 2.
>
> I assumed as much. It'
Hi there
On 24/08/17 15:39, Dan Ritter wrote:
As of Stretch, the standard OpenSSH sshd does not support
Protocol 1, so there's no particular reason to enforce it
by stating Protocol 2.
I assumed as much. It's just a simple way to keep rkhunter happy.
PermitRootLogin now defaults to "prohib
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 02:49:00PM +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote:
> Hi there
>
>
> On 22/08/17 21:16, Rob van der Putten wrote:
>
> > Upgrade from amd64 Jessie (insserv, bare ALSA).
> > I kind of miss xfce-mixer Alsamixergui works, but xfce-mixer looked
> > better.
>
> I use qasmixer now;
> h
Hi there
On 22/08/17 21:16, Rob van der Putten wrote:
Upgrade from amd64 Jessie (insserv, bare ALSA).
I kind of miss xfce-mixer Alsamixergui works, but xfce-mixer looked
better.
I use qasmixer now;
http://www.sput.nl/software/qasmixer.png
I removed the xfce4 meta package, since it insists o
Hi there
On 21/08/17 18:29, deloptes wrote:
No issues, even with new installation on new disk :)
Upgrade from amd64 Jessie (insserv, bare ALSA).
I kind of miss xfce-mixer Alsamixergui works, but xfce-mixer looked
better. I'm very happy that Firefox works on bare ALSA.
As Greg wrote, plea
Borden Rhodes writes:
> I was very surprised when they released Stretch as I didn't find
> anything 'stable' about the packages that I was using.
My reply was primarily addressing that statement: you were surprised
that Stretch, with the problems you describe, was released.
Borden Rhodes writ
Thank you for your response, Ben,
> What response did you get to the bug reports you filed from the problems you
> encountered?
One example includes an X regression that caused it to wait upwards of
8 minutes searching for my laptop's touchscreen. The bug was caused by
a typo where, instead of w
Thanks for the replies. I'll maybe try another clean install and see
what happens.
On 08/21/2017 01:06 PM, Borden Rhodes wrote:
Hey Tony,
I had lots of problems with Stretch when it was in testing. A lot of
packages (KDE, X drivers, and the kernel come immediately to mind)
have manageable b
Borden Rhodes writes:
> I had lots of problems with Stretch when it was in testing.
Thank you for running the ‘testing’ suite. The problems you encountered
are an important part of having people run that suite; you can then
report those problems in the Debian bug tracking system, so that the
pac
Hey Tony,
I had lots of problems with Stretch when it was in testing. A lot of
packages (KDE, X drivers, and the kernel come immediately to mind)
have manageable but irritating upstream regressions that didn't get
patched or backported in time for the release.
I was very surprised when they relea
On 2017-08-21 09:08 -0700 tony mollica wrote:
>I don't usually complain about free stuff but, for me, stretch has
>become a distant back-runner to previous releases. Jessie was fast and
>everything worked. Stretch has become a day to day challenge for even
>minor issues. Going back or changi
tony mollica wrote:
> I'd like to know if others have the same issue or is it my particular
> installation, which was a new, clean install to a new disk.
No issues, even with new installation on new disk :)
As Greg wrote, please share the issues.
Going back - might be an option perhaps for the
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 09:08:55AM -0700, tony mollica wrote:
> I'd like to know if others have the same issue or is it my particular
> installation, which was a new, clean install to a new disk.
What issues? You didn't say what's wrong.
For many desktop/laptop systems, the changes in the video
I don't usually complain about free stuff but, for me, stretch has
become a distant back-runner to previous releases. Jessie was fast and
everything worked. Stretch has become a day to day challenge for even
minor issues. Going back or changing dists.
I'd like to know if others have the sam
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