Thus spake dircha:
# Paul Johnson wrote:
# >What's wrong with, "Make me a Debian package or lose a customer?"
#
# I'd venture to guess:
# We're sorry, but we can not presently justify the costs of maintaining a
# Debian port. Perhaps if one of our larger customers express an interest
# in it...
"Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 18 May 2004, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
>> Anything proprietary is automatically a toy to me.
>
> ...which is why your opinion is utterly worthless. I'm not asking anyone
> to like proprietary software or the corporate environment but at least
>
On Mon, 17 May 2004, Dominique Dumont wrote:
> Sure. Be if one can easily install rpm packages on a Debian system,
> this would be a good message sent to the corporate world.
>
I don't think so. The kind of corporate type who even know there is such
a difference will understand why .debs are bet
On Tue, 18 May 2004, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Anything proprietary is automatically a toy to me.
...which is why your opinion is utterly worthless. I'm not asking anyone
to like proprietary software or the corporate environment but at least
"know your enemy" if nothing else.
Mindless zealotry does
"s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Incoming from Adam Funk:
>>
>> use and produce RPMs whereas (as far as I know) only Debian uses deb
>> packages and people produce them specifically for Debian? (I'm not
>
> That's arguable. There's Debian, and then there's Knoppix, Morphix,
>
Adam Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tuesday 18 May 2004 07:00, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
>> Wow, Ian's being rather optimistic in thinking that RPM can overcome
>> it's own shortcomings to stop sucking. Such as, 1) distro-dependent
>> RPMs, RPM isn't standardized like Deb is. 2) Naming conven
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
>> My understanding is this is a vocal minority decreasing in size as
>> more good, free software comes out.
>
> You are thinking perhaps of of office productivity software?
>
>> Proprietary software is sort of a band-aid for a real solu
Incoming from Adam Funk:
>
> use and produce RPMs whereas (as far as I know) only Debian uses deb
> packages and people produce them specifically for Debian? (I'm not
That's arguable. There's Debian, and then there's Knoppix, Morphix,
Libranet, Lindows, ...
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Any technology distinguishable
Adam Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Wow, Ian's being rather optimistic in thinking that RPM can overcome
>> it's own shortcomings to stop sucking. Such as, 1) distro-dependent
>> RPMs, RPM isn't standardized like Deb is. 2) Naming conventions. RPM
>> isn't standardized. 3) Per-file depend
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes:
>> Currently there is big chicken and egg problem with Debian in the
>> corporate world. Corporate guys want to be able to install software
>> from ISV (like Oracle).
>
> I understand what you are saying. But they can install oracle and
> others today. My c
On Tue, 18 May 2004, Paul Johnson wrote:
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> Tim Connors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > Because all software sucks. And if it doesn't the hardware sucks. And
> > if *it* doesn't, then the firmware must surely suck.
>
> Debian. Because software
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Mon, 17 May 2004 22:37:44 -0700:
> dircha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I'd venture to guess:
> > We're sorry, but we can not presently justify the costs of maintaining
> > a Debian port. Perhaps if one of our larger customers express an
> > interest in it
on Mon, May 17, 2004 at 11:07:01AM +0200, Dominique Dumont ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes:
>
> >> and I found that it can't find files it need in deb DB,I had been
> >> tried to install it on debian,
> >> #rpm -ivh mypr
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Tim Connors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Mon, 17 May 2004 22:37:44 -0700:
>> dircha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > I'd venture to guess:
>> > We're sorry, but we can not presently justify the costs of mainta
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 07:00, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> Dominique Dumont wrote:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes:
>>> >> #rpm -ivh myproduct-xxx-xx.rpm
>>> >
>>> > As other people have written doing this is not a good thing. Put
>>> > yourself in the other position. I have a .deb file
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 07:00, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Wow, Ian's being rather optimistic in thinking that RPM can overcome
> it's own shortcomings to stop sucking. Such as, 1) distro-dependent
> RPMs, RPM isn't standardized like Deb is. 2) Naming conventions. RPM
> isn't standardized. 3) Per-fil
Paul Johnson wrote:
> My understanding is this is a vocal minority decreasing in size as
> more good, free software comes out.
You are thinking perhaps of of office productivity software?
> Proprietary software is sort of a band-aid for a real solution, or a
> toy for after work.
"A toy for afte
Incoming from Paul Johnson:
> dircha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Paul Johnson wrote:
> >> What's wrong with, "Make me a Debian package or lose a customer?"
> >
> > I'd venture to guess:
> > We're sorry, but we can not presently justify the costs of maintaining
> > a Debian port. Perhaps if o
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes:
> Dominique Dumont wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes:
>> >> #rpm -ivh myproduct-xxx-xx.rpm
>> >
>> > As other people have written doing this is not a good thing. Put
>> > yourself in the other position. I have a .deb file from Debian. I
>
dircha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
>> Dominique Dumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> Currently there is big chicken and egg problem with Debian in the
>>> corporate world. Corporate guys want to be able to install software
>>> from ISV (like Oracle).
>>> ISVs only provide
On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 04:10:39PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Dominique Dumont wrote:
> > So the questions are now:
> >
> > - does the Debian community want Debian to be used in corporate world
> > to run *proprietary* softwares ?
>
> Personally, yes. I think many people have that ideal. It i
Dominique Dumont wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes:
> >> #rpm -ivh myproduct-xxx-xx.rpm
> >
> > As other people have written doing this is not a good thing. Put
> > yourself in the other position. I have a .deb file from Debian. I
> > want to install it on a RH system. Should I
Paul Johnson wrote:
Dominique Dumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Currently there is big chicken and egg problem with Debian in the
corporate world. Corporate guys want to be able to install software
from ISV (like Oracle).
ISVs only provide their proprietary software as rpm because not
many corp
Dominique Dumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Currently there is big chicken and egg problem with Debian in the
> corporate world. Corporate guys want to be able to install software
> from ISV (like Oracle).
>
> ISVs only provide their proprietary software as rpm because not many
> corporation as
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes:
>> and I found that it can't find files it need in deb DB,I had been
>> tried to install it on debian,
>> #rpm -ivh myproduct-xxx-xx.rpm
>> the program will prompt: myproduct need perl >5.6, and the bash must
>>
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On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 08:37:42PM -0700, Jake Johnson wrote:
> It is not recommended to mix the two (apt and rpm) because they can't
> validate what each one has installed.
Yes, but is this not why we have alien to convert rpm to deb?
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alien --to-deb fmserver-trial-5.5-1.i386-makedeb.rpm
Converted!! :)
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Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:56 AM
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converting the rpm package to deb, I think that wont give
headache on my part.
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> Louie Miranda ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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> -Original Message-
> From: Jake Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:42 AM
> To: Louie Miranda
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Debian rpm
>
>
> Just out of c
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 10:28:33AM +0800, Louie Miranda wrote:
> I just installed a rpm deb package manager, I just wonder. If I
> installed an rpm package where would it go? I mean don't it get
> confused on two package manager?
It very well could work with no problems. On the other hand, if the
Thus spake Louie Miranda:
> I just installed a rpm deb package manager, I just wonder. If I
> installed an rpm package where would it go? I mean don't it get confused
> on two package manager?
Don't. Mixing package managers is Not Good. Really, the only reason
you should install the 'rpm' packag
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Subject: Re: Debian rpm
Just out of curiosity...why would you want to use rpm when apt-get is so
fast and easy to use?
Regards,
Jake Johnson
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Just out of curiosity...why would you want to use rpm when apt-get is so
fast and easy to use?
Regards,
Jake Johnson
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I just installed a rpm deb package manager, I just wonder. If I
installed an rpm package where would it go? I mean don't it get confused
on two package manager?
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