Re: FROM LAST APRIL, I almost got it right! Was: Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-12-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/12/5 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 12/05/08 07:09, Dotan Cohen wrote: > [snip] >> >> Note that this post is _not_ critical of Canonical's commitment to >> Gnome! I rather appreciate Canonical's contributions to Gnome and >> Linux in general. However, as a KDE brat, I feel left out :) I

Re: FROM LAST APRIL, I almost got it right! Was: Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-12-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On 12/05/08 07:09, Dotan Cohen wrote: [snip] Note that this post is _not_ critical of Canonical's commitment to Gnome! I rather appreciate Canonical's contributions to Gnome and Linux in general. However, as a KDE brat, I feel left out :) If Kubuntu weren't marketed as an official Ubuntu build t

Re: FROM LAST APRIL, I almost got it right! Was: Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-12-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/11/29 David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I wish that Henrietta Hippo would have been the code name for Hardy Heron. > > http://www.hollywoodinvestigator.com/newzoorevue.htm > I still vote that 9.10 should be Komatose Kubuntu. KDE has been largely ignored by Canonical devs, relative to XFCE an

Re: FROM LAST APRIL, I almost got it right! Was: Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-12-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 05:29:28PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > > Don't know, but Jumping Jackflash has got a nice ring to it. A credit to the > Stones, and every time you boot, the login screen shows an animated version > of Mick Jagger, and a few words from the tune. Remember "Start me up" fro

Re: FROM LAST APRIL, I almost got it right! Was: Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-11-29 Thread David Fox
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Nigel Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't know, but Jumping Jackflash has got a nice ring to it. A credit to the > Stones, and every time you boot, the login screen shows an animated version > of Mick Jagger, and a few words from the tune. I wish that Henriett

Re: FROM LAST APRIL, I almost got it right! Was: Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-11-29 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 29 November 2008 16:57, Kent West wrote: > Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > "Cybe R. Wizard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> Everyone piped up: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> I hereby propose the Jibbering Jackalope. > >> > >> Cybe > > > > Do I get a prize for coming so close to reality, something

Re: FROM LAST APRIL, I almost got it right! Was: Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-11-29 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > "Cybe R. Wizard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > >> Everyone piped up: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> I hereby propose the Jibbering Jackalope. > >> > >> Cybe > >> > > > > Do I get a prize for coming so close to reality, something

Re: FROM LAST APRIL, I almost got it right! Was: Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-11-29 Thread Kent West
Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > "Cybe R. Wizard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> Everyone piped up: >> >> [...] >> >> I hereby propose the Jibbering Jackalope. >> >> Cybe >> > > Do I get a prize for coming so close to reality, something I usually > try to avoid? > > Cybe R. Wizard > Not all of u

FROM LAST APRIL, I almost got it right! Was: Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-11-29 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
"Cybe R. Wizard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Everyone piped up: > > [...] > > I hereby propose the Jibbering Jackalope. > > Cybe Do I get a prize for coming so close to reality, something I usually try to avoid? Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barn

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-13 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun April 13 2008 03:19:15 Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 21:15:05 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > >>> On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote: > Florian Kulze

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-13 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:19:15PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 21:15:05 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > >>> On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote: > F

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-13 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 21:15:05 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote: >>> Florian Kulzer wrote: > Is this the right ro

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:41:21 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Andrew, > > > I loved Flying Circus! > > No, you didn't! > Well, now you're just contradicting. To argue, one has to take up a contrary stance. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly ob

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 05:45:01PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 08:36:26 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:18:33PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > ... > > > > > > As for everyone else why are we having this crap discussion > > > AGAIN. >

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Marc Shapiro
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: Is this the right room for an argument? HA-H! I loved Flying Circus! No, you didn

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 12:50:14AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote: > > Florian Kulzer wrote: > >> Is this the right room for an argument? > >> > > > > HA-H! > > > > I loved Flying Circus! > > No, you didn't! Well, now you're just cont

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 02:25:49PM -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > [...] > > > only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a > > comin' ... > > Andrew, since it's OT time, tell me more about your International. I > am c

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:13:29 -0500, Kent West wrote: > Florian Kulzer wrote: >> Is this the right room for an argument? >> > > HA-H! > > I loved Flying Circus! No, you didn't! -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: [...] > only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a > comin' > > A Andrew, since it's OT time, tell me more about your International. I am currently restoring a 1948 IH KB1, myself. Parts and reliable information are

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Kent West
Florian Kulzer wrote: Is this the right room for an argument? HA-H! I loved Flying Circus! -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 08:36:26 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:18:33PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > ... > > > > As for everyone else why are we having this crap discussion > > AGAIN. > > only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a > c

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:18:33PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: ... > > As for everyone else why are we having this crap discussion AGAIN. only a matter of time. real traffic is down, OT is up... flame wars a comin' A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-12 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > On Friday 11 April 2008 10:10:22 pm Mark Allums wrote: > > The problems with waste are slowly being solved, even without breeders. > >    But you make a good point.  However, I would prefer it if the > > breeders were in the arid Southwest deserts, a

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 10:10:22 pm Mark Allums wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> If only Canada had a nice place to dump spent nuclear fuel the way China > > > > France doesn't have problems with spent nuclear fuel, because they > > use breeder reactors. We should, too. > > The problems with waste

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:52:10 pm Steve Lamb wrote: > Mike Bird wrote: > > You're mistaken Steve. Individuals pass on their tax costs to > > corporations in the form of higher wage demands. Individual income tax > > should be zero. Corporations should be taxed on their profits in order to > > p

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Mark Allums
Ron Johnson wrote: If only Canada had a nice place to dump spent nuclear fuel the way China France doesn't have problems with spent nuclear fuel, because they use breeder reactors. We should, too. The problems with waste are slowly being solved, even without breeders. But you make a good

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Mike Bird wrote: > You're mistaken Steve. Individuals pass on their tax costs to corporations > in the form of higher wage demands. Individual income tax should be zero. > Corporations should be taxed on their profits in order to pay for the > infrastucture and military necessary for corporations

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Mike Bird
On Fri April 11 2008 20:18:33 Steve Lamb wrote: > You are an idiot. Yes, corporate taxes are paid by corporations who > pass the the bill onto individuals. It was 0% before and its 0% now. > Individuals paid it then and individuals pay it now. You just want it back > because it's a secret t

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > Eliminating all > corporate tax breaks would be a good idea, as well: After World War II, > corporations accounted for nearly 40% of US tax revenue, today it's less than > 5%. You are an idiot. Yes, corporate taxes are paid by corporations who pass the the bill onto

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 21:30, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 11 April 2008 07:17:19 pm Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/11/08 21:01, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote: It does? News to me. Again, study your hist

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 07:17:19 pm Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/11/08 21:01, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote: > >> It does? News to me. Again, study your history, longest un-interrupted > >> economic growth in the history of the US. > > > > Reagan

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 20:37, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:22:10PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> That just violates basic economic principals, setting the price below the >> balance of supply and demand, especially given we're talking

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 21:12, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 11 April 2008 05:19:08 pm Mark Allums wrote: >> Paul Johnson wrote: >> >>> Health care would be a big one. >> >> >> >> And taxes are much lower here, and the torte system so different, >> >> and pe

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 21:01, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote: > >> It does? News to me. Again, study your history, longest un-interrupted >> economic growth in the history of the US. > > Reagan was still starr

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 05:19:08 pm Mark Allums wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > >>> Health care would be a big one. > >> > >> And taxes are much lower here, and the torte system so different, > >> and people so much more eager to sue. > > > > Depends on the country. In France, they pay less t

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 01:33:00 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote: > It does? News to me. Again, study your history, longest un-interrupted > economic growth in the history of the US. Reagan was still starring in movies or acting as the president of the labor union he was a member of during much of t

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 02:01:43 pm Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 11 April 2008 08:17:56 am Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/11/08 10:03, Paul Johnson wrote: > > [snip] > > >>> Depends on the country. In France, they pay less taxes, and with those > >>> tax

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:22:10PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > That just violates basic economic principals, setting the price below the > balance of supply and demand, especially given we're talking about an > international commodities market and thus don't have the aboslute authority > to m

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 01:40:05 pm Damon L. Chesser wrote: > The fact that China is sucking up all the oil they can buy on the free > market has nothing to do with $100/barrel, does it? You are confusing correlation with causation. China's been industrializing for the last 20 years now. Oil

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Mark Allums
Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Health care would be a big one. >> And taxes are much lower here, and the torte system so different, >> and people so much more eager to sue. > > Depends on the country. In France, they pay less taxes, and with those taxes they get college and healthcare at no extra charg

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 17:40, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 04:01:43PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote: > >>> Just because >>> he's >>> dead

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 04:01:43PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > Just because > > he's > > dead now doesn't mean he didn't have good ideas that worked wonders, > > contrary > > to what Rush

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 02:41:00PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/11/08 13:02, Kevin Mark wrote: > [snip] > > Thunderbird is a brand of cheap alcohol mostly drunk by winos --bums. It > > Shame on you for insinuating such a mean thing about the Differently > Drinking the soberly impaired?

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 15:40, Damon L. Chesser wrote: [snip] > > your knowledge of Linux is very good. Your knowledge of economics is > not as good. The fact that China is sucking up all the oil they can buy > on the free market has nothing to do with $100/bar

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 15:20, Paul Johnson wrote: [snip] > > We saw what happens under Reagan. It degenerates into the libertarian > dystopia we're approaching now. I hate it when I agree with you... - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA We want... a Shru

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 15:19, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 11 April 2008 08:17:56 am Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/11/08 10:03, Paul Johnson wrote: [snip] >>> Depends on the country. In France, they pay less taxes, and with those >>> taxes they get college and

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Paul Johnson wrote: On Friday 11 April 2008 11:29:02 am Rich Healey wrote: pfft. i pay $1.60 AUD a litre for diesel. Petrol prices ar buggered everywhere.. which makes me wonder.. why iraq? wasn't freedom.. and based on evidence sure as bloody hell wasn't oil! Worst yet, the way the

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Paul Johnson wrote: On Friday 11 April 2008 08:23:19 am Damon L. Chesser wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 1

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 11:29:02 am Rich Healey wrote: > pfft. i pay $1.60 AUD a litre for diesel. > > Petrol prices ar buggered everywhere.. which makes me wonder.. why iraq? > > wasn't freedom.. and based on evidence sure as bloody hell wasn't oil! Worst yet, the way the whole thing was orchest

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:23:19 am Damon L. Chesser wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote: > >>> On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote: >

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 08:17:56 am Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/11/08 10:03, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote: > >>> On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wro

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 13:02, Kevin Mark wrote: [snip] > Thunderbird is a brand of cheap alcohol mostly drunk by winos --bums. It Shame on you for insinuating such a mean thing about the Differently Drinking - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA We want.

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/06/08 02:20

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 08:54:20AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/11/08 08:18, David Fox wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Sackville-West > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Hey! I'm almost poor, ignorant of many things,

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Paul Johnson wrote: On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote: [snip] It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 10:03, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote: >>> On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote: [snip

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 11 April 2008 06:16:21 am Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote: > > On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote: > >> [snip] > > It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY also say that milk about > $3

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 08:18, David Fox wrote: > On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Sackville-West > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hey! I'm almost poor, ignorant of many things, and often boorish, but >> I'll *never* drink cheap beer, you insensitive cl

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread David Fox
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey! I'm almost poor, ignorant of many things, and often boorish, but > I'll *never* drink cheap beer, you insensitive clod! You know, thunderbird isn't just a web browser. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 07:40, Christopher Judd wrote: > On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote: > >> [snip] >> > It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY also say that milk about $3/gal. >>> Come on g

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-11 Thread Christopher Judd
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote: > [snip] > > >> > >> It *is* a pain. Friends in Western NY also say that milk about $3/gal. > > > > Come on guys, it's not fair. You are complaining about 3$/gal for milk > > and gas? What about Eu

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 10 April 2008 11:51:24 am Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote: > > >> On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote: > > >> > > >> [snip] > > >>

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 13:51, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote:

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:04:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote: > >> > >> [snip] > >> > >>> What a deal! I bet ALL of the "concerned parents" will be sending B

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:14:00 +1200 Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Chris, > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 03:51:07PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > > The Prisoner - Patrick McGoohan. > Congratulations. > 10pts Cheers, Chris. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obviou

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 03:45:22PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Sunday 06 April 2008, Brad Rogers wrote: > > unfulfilling. Patrick McGoohan always maintains there's more to it > > than that. He refuses, however, to be drawn on the subject. Which, > > in itself is just as weird. :-) > > No,

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:56:32AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > /The Prisoner/, Patrick McGoohan. Google makes this kind of thing > too easy. Ooops -1000pts -- Chris. == If you are not subscribed, ask to be CC'd as the Policy of this list is to reply to the list only. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 03:51:07PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 02:44:53 +1200 > Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Chris, > > > "No man is an Island." "I'm not a number I'm a free man!" > > 10pts for the program and the actor. > > The Prisoner - Patrick McGoo

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 11:07:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/06/08 13:23, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 06:33:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > > >> And of course the poor, ignorant and boorish aren't reading this > >> list. Why? They're drinking cheap be

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-07 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 13:23, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 06:33:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > >> And of course the poor, ignorant and boorish aren't reading this >> list. Why? They're drinking cheap beer and procreating like ra

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 06:51:07PM -0600, Nate Duehr wrote: > > On Apr 5, 2008, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> I have seen direct evidence of the problem inherent in reply-to >> munging. We had a student reply to an email thinking she was replying >> only to the instructor and instea

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 06:33:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > And of course the poor, ignorant and boorish aren't reading this > list. Why? They're drinking cheap beer and procreating like rabbits. Hey! I'm almost poor, ignorant of many things, and often boorish, but I'll *never* drink cheap

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 07:45:59PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > I remember upgrading my C-64's 300 baud modem to a 1200baud one. That > was so cool. No more typing faster than the modem... I used to "chat" > with my friends using terminal programs we'd written ourselves > complete with x

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:19:24PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/06/08 19:11, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 08:04:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > >> Totally ACK! This is the kind of situation that inflames my > >> crotchetiness gland and impels me to pull out my ca

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 20:08, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 03:59:45PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Not really, since I didn't become a teenager until the mid-70s. >> > > I thought you were an old fart. You're my age. I was born in 66.

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 19:11, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 08:04:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Totally ACK! This is the kind of situation that inflames my >> crotchetiness gland and impels me to pull out my cane and ear horn. > > Ye

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:23:20PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > Great OT thread. Yes, no flaming. > > Last time it was like this, Etch was almost ready... so now we can twiddle our thumbs, go on random OT rants and rest assured that lenny will be out any time. When's the next utnubu due o

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:08:23PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 03:59:45PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Not really, since I didn't become a teenager until the mid-70s. > > > > I thought you were an old fart. You're my age. I was born in 66. > > Oh, wait a minut

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 03:59:45PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Not really, since I didn't become a teenager until the mid-70s. > I thought you were an old fart. You're my age. I was born in 66. Oh, wait a minute... Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
Great OT thread. Yes, no flaming. Last time it was like this, Etch was almost ready... I'm trying to remember the last real Etch problem (as opposed to Lenny or Sid questions) other than those where the answer was to remove network-manager :) Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 08:04:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Totally ACK! This is the kind of situation that inflames my > crotchetiness gland and impels me to pull out my cane and ear horn. Yeah, when you were a student, you did the same thing with a carrier pidgeon, carrying a role of punch

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 06 April 2008 02:18:18 pm John C. Ellingboe wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Sunday 06 April 2008 09:02:41 am Ron Johnson wrote: > >>And the 1933 /King Kong/, the B&W /Secret Garden/ (which my 8yo > >>daughter likes), and the live action Disney movies from the late 50s > >>thru mid 70s

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread John C. Ellingboe
Paul Johnson wrote: On Sunday 06 April 2008 09:02:41 am Ron Johnson wrote: And the 1933 /King Kong/, the B&W /Secret Garden/ (which my 8yo daughter likes), and the live action Disney movies from the late 50s thru mid 70s like /The Shaggy Dog/, /Flubber/, /The World's Strongest Man/, /Escape Fr

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 15:56, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sunday 06 April 2008 09:02:41 am Ron Johnson wrote: > >> And the 1933 /King Kong/, the B&W /Secret Garden/ (which my 8yo >> daughter likes), and the live action Disney movies from the late 50s >> thru mid 70

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 15:51, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>> What a deal! I bet ALL of the "concerned parents" will be sending BOTH >>> the difference in th

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 15:53, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sunday 06 April 2008 08:18:32 am Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/06/08 10:06, Brad Rogers wrote: >>> On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 09:56:32 -0500 >>> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Ron, >>> /The

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 06 April 2008 09:02:41 am Ron Johnson wrote: > And the 1933 /King Kong/, the B&W /Secret Garden/ (which my 8yo > daughter likes), and the live action Disney movies from the late 50s > thru mid 70s like /The Shaggy Dog/, /Flubber/, /The World's > Strongest Man/, /Escape From Witch Mountai

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 06 April 2008 08:18:32 am Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/06/08 10:06, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 09:56:32 -0500 > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello Ron, > > > >> /The Prisoner/, Patrick McGoohan. Google makes this kind of thing > >> too easy. > > > > I di

Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-04-06 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 06 April 2008 05:03:13 am Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/06/08 02:20, Nate Duehr wrote: > > [snip] > > > What a deal! I bet ALL of the "concerned parents" will be sending BOTH > > the difference in their original taxes in 2006 and their rebate checks > > straight to the education system. (R

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 06 April 2008, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:56:10 -0500 > Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Dave, > > > > younger. It was just weird. > > > > Yes, it was. Wasn't that the point? > > To a degree, yes. In the end, if that's all it is, then it's > unfulfill

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:11:37 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Ron, > Since it's obvious that pre-teen don't get /The Prisoner/, next time > I guess I'd better not give such broad examples of changing taste. :-) OTOH, ti was the obvious choice, given the genesis of this sub-thr

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 11:20, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:40:09 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Ron, > >> Preferences change... My children *love* the same movies and > > True, but The Prisoner was not really aimed at

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:56:10 -0500 Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Dave, > > younger. It was just weird. > Yes, it was. Wasn't that the point? To a degree, yes. In the end, if that's all it is, then it's unfulfilling. Patrick McGoohan always maintains there's more to it than t

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:40:09 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Ron, > Preferences change... My children *love* the same movies and True, but The Prisoner was not really aimed at a young (i.e. pre-teen) audience. > cartoons that I liked when I was young, but now they just bore

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 10:44, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Sunday 06 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 04/06/08 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: >>> On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:18:32 -0500 >>> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Ron, >>> I watched it as a

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 04:31:28PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > Frankly, I don't know what I saw in it when I was > younger. It was just weird. Yes, it was. Wasn't that the point? -- News aggregation meets world domination. Can you see the fnews? http://seethefnews.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 06 April 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/06/08 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:18:32 -0500 > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello Ron, > > > >> I watched it as a teenager (because PBS didn't run it in the late > >> 60s, and I wouldn't have cared, ev

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:18:32 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Ron, > >> I watched it as a teenager (because PBS didn't run it in the late >> 60s, and I wouldn't have cared, even if they

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:18:32 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Ron, > I watched it as a teenager (because PBS didn't run it in the late > 60s, and I wouldn't have cared, even if they did), but didn't obsess > over it. Nor me, TBH. I did try watching it a few years ago when they

Re: Fwd: Re: [Somewhat More OT] Closed source software Was [Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]]

2008-04-06 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/08 10:06, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 09:56:32 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Ron, > >> /The Prisoner/, Patrick McGoohan. Google makes this kind of thing >> too easy. > > I didn't need Google; I watc

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