Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/11/2017 08:34 AM, Michael Fothergill wrote: On 10 June 2017 at 14:05, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/09/2017 03:37 PM, Michael Fothergill wrote: On 9 June 2017 at 20:59, Fungi4All wrote: Here is some relevant reading of installing linux system besides Win8 and in some cases the same pr

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-11 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 10 June 2017 at 14:05, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/09/2017 03:37 PM, Michael Fothergill wrote: > >> On 9 June 2017 at 20:59, Fungi4All wrote: >> >> Here is some relevant reading of installing linux system besides Win8 and >>> in some cases the same problem exists on Win 10. >>> https://asku

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/09/2017 03:37 PM, Michael Fothergill wrote: On 9 June 2017 at 20:59, Fungi4All wrote: Here is some relevant reading of installing linux system besides Win8 and in some cases the same problem exists on Win 10. https://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-alongside-a-pre- insta

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > In linux alone the MBR is unnecessary and boot info can be stored in > each partition and be handled by grub or lilo.  Correct? Not really. A hard-disk-like device that is bootable via BIOS or EFI must have an MBR. For BIOS because of the x86 prgram. For EFI because of the need for a partit

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-10 Thread Fungi4All
UTC Time: June 10, 2017 8:19 AM From: pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org Le 10/06/2017 à 10:07, Fungi4All a écrit : > From: scdbac...@gmx.net > > To boot from hard disk or USB stick, there must be a Master Boot Record. > > In linux alone the MBR is unnecessary and boot info can be stored in > each partition a

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 10/06/2017 à 10:07, Fungi4All a écrit : From: scdbac...@gmx.net To boot from hard disk or USB stick, there must be a Master Boot Record. In linux alone the MBR is unnecessary and boot info can be stored in each partition and be handled by grub or lilo. Correct? Not correct. A MBR is necess

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-10 Thread Fungi4All
Original Message Subject: Re: Debian installation issues UTC Time: June 10, 2017 7:16 AM From: scdbac...@gmx.net Hi, by mistake Fungi4All and i exchanged a few mails in private. I put this back to the list (although it could deserve a new topic). He showed me a xorriso report

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, by mistake Fungi4All and i exchanged a few mails in private. I put this back to the list (although it could deserve a new topic). He showed me a xorriso report of a MS-Windows "ISO" (which we now know is actually an UDF filesystem), and i stated the same as with my reply here to Dan Ritter:

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-09 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 9 June 2017 at 20:59, Fungi4All wrote: > Here is some relevant reading of installing linux system besides Win8 and > in some cases the same problem exists on Win 10. > https://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-alongside-a-pre- > installed-windows-with-uefi > ​I read through so

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-09 Thread Fungi4All
Here is some relevant reading of installing linux system besides Win8 and in some cases the same problem exists on Win 10. https://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-alongside-a-pre-installed-windows-with-uefi Ok, MS did what they did, but manufacturers accepted this and incorporate

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-09 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 10:47:25 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > Hi, > > Fungi4All wrote: > > try from linux to burn an > > ms-win-installation image, chances are that you will fail despite of what > > way you may try to do so. > > Are there any such images available for free and legally safe to ha

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Dan Ritter wrote: > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO/ The site creates a download link which is valid for one day. 4+ GB. Only good that my phone provider forced me on a 50 Mbit/s line last year. $ xorriso -indev Win10_1607_English_x64.iso -report_el_torito p

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-09 Thread Joe
On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 16:24:20 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: > > > Are there any [MS-Windows] images available for free and legally > > > safe > > Joe wrote: > > Oddly enough, there are: > > https://www.microsoft.com/en-GB/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-10-enterprise > > The

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-09 Thread Dan Ritter
On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 04:24:20PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: > > > Are there any [MS-Windows] images available for free and legally safe > > Joe wrote: > > Oddly enough, there are: > > https://www.microsoft.com/en-GB/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-10-enterprise > > The registr

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-09 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 14:34:47 +0100 Michael Fothergill wrote: (...) > > I am willing to bet the image written through rufus is fine, your > > problem is booting up from usb as people have mentioned before. I > > like to assume that you did not install win10 in an older pc but > > bought a rec

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > Are there any [MS-Windows] images available for free and legally safe Joe wrote: > Oddly enough, there are: > https://www.microsoft.com/en-GB/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-10-enterprise The registration gives me creeps. I came up to the question whether i want to use a Microsoft o

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-09 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 9 June 2017 at 08:01, Fungi4All wrote: > > UTC Time: June 8, 2017 4:17 PM > From: wool...@eeg.ccf.org > > On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 11:08:32AM -0500, David DLC wrote: > > Thank you for all the replies! I haven't really used a mailing list > before, > > so I'm not 100% sure I'm responding to the

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-09 Thread Joe
On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 10:47:25 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > Hi, > > Fungi4All wrote: > > try from linux to burn an > > ms-win-installation image, chances are that you will fail despite > > of what way you may try to do so. > > Are there any such images available for free and legally safe to

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Fungi4All wrote: > try from linux to burn an > ms-win-installation image, chances are that you will fail despite of what > way you may try to do so. Are there any such images available for free and legally safe to have and to talk about ? > Propbably Thomas from xorisso fame can explain > b

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-09 Thread Fungi4All
UTC Time: June 8, 2017 4:17 PM From: wool...@eeg.ccf.org On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 11:08:32AM -0500, David DLC wrote: > Thank you for all the replies! I haven't really used a mailing list before, > so I'm not 100% sure I'm responding to the correct location. Do I hit > "reply all" or just reply to t

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-08 Thread David Christensen
On 06/08/2017 09:08 AM, David DLC wrote: HP Spectre XT TouchSmart PC The first task is to get a known good USB flash drive with the Debian installer in it. Is there a local Linux Users Group, or do you have a knowledgeable friend, who can help you with this? The next task is booting the

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-08 Thread Brian
On Thu 08 Jun 2017 at 20:48:28 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 08/06/2017 à 19:41, Brian a écrit : > >On Thu 08 Jun 2017 at 12:17:22 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > >>The #debian bot currently recommends > >> > >>if you need to write the Debian instal

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-08 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 08/06/2017 à 19:41, Brian a écrit : On Thu 08 Jun 2017 at 12:17:22 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: The #debian bot currently recommends if you need to write the Debian install image to a USB device from Windows. Steve McIntyre, a Debian Developer whose

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-08 Thread Felix Miata
Greg Wooledge composed on 2017-06-08 12:17 (UTC-0400): > For this mailing list, you are expected to reply only to the list address, > unless the person to whom you're replying explicitly requests personal > responses. (This is different from most other technical support mailing > lists in the wor

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-08 Thread Brian
On Thu 08 Jun 2017 at 12:17:22 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 11:08:32AM -0500, David DLC wrote: > > > Anyway, I have disabled secure boot, but that didn't seem to solve the > > problem. My computer does not have a DVD drive, so I put the ISO ( > > debian-8.8.0-amd64-netins

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-08 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 8 June 2017 at 17:57, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > On 8 June 2017 at 17:52, David DLC wrote: > >> Thank you for the info on the mailing address. >> >> > The #debian bot currently recommends > iskimager/> >> > if you need to write the Debian install image to

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-08 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 8 June 2017 at 17:52, David DLC wrote: > Thank you for the info on the mailing address. > > > The #debian bot currently recommends iskimager/> > > if you need to write the Debian install image to a USB device from > > Windows. > > I actually used that program t

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-08 Thread David DLC
Thank you for the info on the mailing address. > The #debian bot currently recommends > if you need to write the Debian install image to a USB device from > Windows. I actually used that program to write the ISO to the USB stick the first time I tried it

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-08 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 8 June 2017 at 17:08, David DLC wrote: > Thank you for all the replies! I haven't really used a mailing list > before, so I'm not 100% sure I'm responding to the correct location. Do I > hit "reply all" or just reply to the debian-user@lists.debian.org address? > > Anyway, I have disabled secu

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 11:08:32AM -0500, David DLC wrote: > Thank you for all the replies! I haven't really used a mailing list before, > so I'm not 100% sure I'm responding to the correct location. Do I hit > "reply all" or just reply to the debian-user@lists.debian.org address? For this mailing

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-08 Thread David DLC
Thank you for all the replies! I haven't really used a mailing list before, so I'm not 100% sure I'm responding to the correct location. Do I hit "reply all" or just reply to the debian-user@lists.debian.org address? Anyway, I have disabled secure boot, but that didn't seem to solve the problem. M

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-08 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 08:26:03AM +0100, Michael Fothergill wrote: > On 8 June 2017 at 05:34, David DLC wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > [...] I get the error message "The selected boot device failed. > > Press to continue." [...] > Hi there. Try boot

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-08 Thread didier gaumet
As Tomas and Michael have suggested, you might have a look at your BIOS/UEFI setup in order to verify the boot order and to disable Secure Boot: disabling Fast Boot has nothing to do witrh Secure Boot and Debian cannot manage Secure Boot without special procedures It is worth noting that the Deb

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-08 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 8 June 2017 at 05:34, David DLC wrote: > Hello, > > I have been trying to install Debian Jessie for about a week now. I have a > 64-bit Windows 10 PC. I have shrunk the main C drive by 25 gbs, and turned > off fast boot. I downloaded the AMD-64 small CD iso, and used win32 disk > imager to wri

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-08 Thread Sergei G
Title: Re: Debian installation issues Hello David, Wednesday, June 7, 2017, 9:34:14 PM, you wrote: Hello, I have been trying to install Debian Jessie for about a week now. I have a 64-bit Windows 10 PC. I have shrunk the main C drive by 25 gbs, and turned off fast boot. I downloaded the

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-08 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 11:34:14PM -0500, David DLC wrote: > Hello, > > I have been trying to install Debian Jessie for about a week now. I have a > 64-bit Windows 10 PC. I have shrunk the main C drive by 25 gbs, and turned > off fast boot. I download

Debian installation issues

2017-06-07 Thread David DLC
Hello, I have been trying to install Debian Jessie for about a week now. I have a 64-bit Windows 10 PC. I have shrunk the main C drive by 25 gbs, and turned off fast boot. I downloaded the AMD-64 small CD iso, and used win32 disk imager to write it to a 2 gb usb stick. However, when I boot my comp