On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:33:06 +0200
Dan wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Steven Rosenberg
> wrote:
> > On 07/17/2012 03:39 AM, Mostafa Hashemi wrote:
> >>
> >> hi guys
> >> hope u all be OK :D
> >>
> >> i want to take a backup from my Debian, or it is better to say take a
> >> dump (like
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Steven Rosenberg
wrote:
> On 07/17/2012 03:39 AM, Mostafa Hashemi wrote:
>>
>> hi guys
>> hope u all be OK :D
>>
>> i want to take a backup from my Debian, or it is better to say take a
>> dump (like FreeBSD). what should i do ? i am new to Debian
>> i checked
On 07/17/2012 03:39 AM, Mostafa Hashemi wrote:
hi guys
hope u all be OK :D
i want to take a backup from my Debian, or it is better to say take a
dump (like FreeBSD). what should i do ? i am new to Debian
i checked out luckybackup , but it just copies files (backs them up)
I use rsync
On 17/07/2012, Mostafa Hashemi wrote:
> hi guys
> hope u all be OK :D
>
> i want to take a backup from my Debian, or it is better to say take a dump
> (like FreeBSD). what should i do ? i am new to Debian
> i checked out luckybackup , but it just copies files (backs them up)
>
>
> thanks
Mostafa Hashemi wrote:
hi guys
hope u all be OK :D
i want to take a backup from my Debian, or it is better to say take a
dump (like FreeBSD). what should i do ? i am new to Debian
i checked out luckybackup , but it just copies files (backs them up)
thanks ...
I use partimage cl co
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:09:40 +0430, Mostafa Hashemi wrote:
> hi guys
> hope u all be OK :D
All fine here, but please don't send html formatted posts, thanks :-)
> i want to take a backup from my Debian, or it is better to say take a
> dump (like FreeBSD). what should i do ? i am new to Debian ..
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> hi guys
> hope u all be OK :D
>
> i want to take a backup from my Debian, or it is better to say take a dump
> (like FreeBSD). what should i do ? i am new to Debian
> i ch
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 03:09:40PM +0430, Mostafa Hashemi wrote:
>hi guys
>hope u all be OK :D
>i want to take a backup from my Debian, or it is better to say take a dump
>(like FreeBSD). what should i do ? i am new to Debian
It depends. Dump makes an image of a file system. W
hi guys
hope u all be OK :D
i want to take a backup from my Debian, or it is better to say take a dump
(like FreeBSD). what should i do ? i am new to Debian
i checked out luckybackup , but it just copies files (backs them up)
thanks ...
On 01/06/2011 12:50 AM, Patrick Ouellette wrote:
Zeroth rule of support - never trust your user's to tell you the
entire story (corollary - people lie about what happened)
First rule of support - before deleting *anything* make a
backup copy yourself
Ding Ding Ding, I usually use dd &or ntfsim
On Vi, 07 ian 11, 09:58:58, teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
>
> And yes, I do most of my major car repairs, no I'm not a mechanic. I
> can cook, clean, and sew, and I'm not a woman. I constantly study
> survival techniques and look to become proficient at procuring my own
> food.
Unfortunat
The client who wouldn't back up because she didn't want to spend any money,
found herself faced with a dead motherboard. She expected me to have a new
computer up and running with all her data on it within a few hours. (Note
that diagnosis was also to be included in the short timespan, as was
An operating system should have reliable backup policies
built-in; for example, it should backup the entire /home subtree to
rewritable DVDs, or a network share, on a weekly basis. When installing
the system, the user should be asked where to and how often the backups
should be made, just
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 11:01:03AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Lisi wrote:
> >On Wednesday 05 January 2011 15:15:43 Camaleón wrote:
> >>What would you think if a person tells you that he thought his car was
> >>going to be fed "automatically"? Hey, he didn't know there were oil
> >>stations that
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 16:50:45 Patrick Ouellette wrote:
> Zeroth rule of support - never trust your user's to tell you the
> entire story (corollary - people lie about what happened)
>
> First rule of support - before deleting *anything* make a
> backup copy yourself
Yes - but if it is no l
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 06:50:38PM +0100, Klistvud wrote:
.snip
> The cars should be (and,
> after decades of development, finally are) projected such that
> without all the fluids in place they simply won't start, while
> notifying the driver with an appropriate flashing
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 06:50:38PM +0100, Klistvud wrote:
> Dne, 05. 01. 2011 15:28:47 je Lisi napisal(a):
>> On Wednesday 05 January 2011 12:03:59 Camaleón wrote:
>> > At least you should have learned one lesson: _never trust_ what your
>> > users say and tell them to _prove_ their wording with fa
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 11:01:03AM EST, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Lisi wrote:
>> On Wednesday 05 January 2011 15:15:43 Camaleón wrote:
[..]
>> They know that the computer needs electricity and that the car needs petrol.
>> I doubt that most people know more than that.
> Well, I would hope they als
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Mihira Fernando wrote:
> On 01/05/2011 11:20 PM, Klistvud wrote:
>
>>
>> Seems I'm one of the few who sincerely think that not all users should, or
>> even could, be required to know the inner workings of each and every
>> technology they use. In real life, people
On 01/05/2011 11:20 PM, Klistvud wrote:
Dne, 05. 01. 2011 15:28:47 je Lisi napisal(a):
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 12:03:59 Camaleón wrote:
> At least you should have learned one lesson: _never trust_ what your
> users say and tell them to _prove_ their wording with facts (that
is, by
> check
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 16:07:41 Camaleón wrote:
> He, he... You may have not read the "obscure stories" that happen at
> tech. support centers:
>
> http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_power.shtml
>
> (read, read on...)
:-) !
Lisi
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entire story (corollary - people lie about what happened)
First rule of support - before deleting *anything* make a
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Dne, 05. 01. 2011 15:28:47 je Lisi napisal(a):
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 12:03:59 Camaleón wrote:
> At least you should have learned one lesson: _never trust_ what your
> users say and tell them to _prove_ their wording with facts (that
is, by
> checking with her that the data was properly
Camaleón wrote:
They know that the computer needs electricity and that the car needs
petrol. I doubt that most people know more than that.
Really!!?? I wish they remember -at least- just that :-P
He, he... You may have not read the "obscure stories" that happen at
tech. support centers:
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:50:47 +, Lisi wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 January 2011 15:15:43 Camaleón wrote:
>> What would you think if a person tells you that he thought his car was
>> going to be fed "automatically"? Hey, he didn't know there were oil
>> stations that provide such facilities and he a
Lisi wrote:
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 15:15:43 Camaleón wrote:
What would you think if a person tells you that he thought his car was
going to be fed "automatically"? Hey, he didn't know there were oil
stations that provide such facilities and he also thought that being year
2011 the cars
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 15:15:43 Camaleón wrote:
> What would you think if a person tells you that he thought his car was
> going to be fed "automatically"? Hey, he didn't know there were oil
> stations that provide such facilities and he also thought that being year
> 2011 the cars do not nee
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:37:25 +, Lisi wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 January 2011 14:26:32 Camaleón wrote:
>> So, no... people who pretend to give "value" to his data and has not
>> performed a single backup copy of his files in years, I just simply
>> say, "heck, no, those files weren't that importa
On Qua, 05 Jan 2011, Lisi wrote:
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 14:26:32 Camaleón wrote:
So, no... people who pretend to give "value" to his data and has not
performed a single backup copy of his files in years, I just simply say,
"heck, no, those files weren't that important".
You aren't making
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 14:26:32 Camaleón wrote:
> So, no... people who pretend to give "value" to his data and has not
> performed a single backup copy of his files in years, I just simply say,
> "heck, no, those files weren't that important".
You aren't making enough allowance for the fact
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 12:03:59 Camaleón wrote:
> At least you should have learned one lesson: _never trust_ what your
> users say and tell them to _prove_ their wording with facts (that is, by
> checking with her that the data was properly backed up and can be
> restored from the aforementio
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:49:43 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 13:09, Camaleón wrote:
>> Last backup was from a year ago, that should give you some hints about
>> how valuable is data for the user.
>>
>>
> That is a hint about whether the computer is a tool or a lifestyle for
> t
No, she didn't. She thought that because she had used the program Picasa,
then Picasa would magically produce her 'photos. She did not have them
online. There was only the one copy on her computer. She just usually
viewed them with Picasa.
I did paid support. I had to support no matter how
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 13:09, Camaleón wrote:
> Last backup was from a year ago, that should give you some hints about
> how valuable is data for the user.
>
That is a hint about whether the computer is a tool or a lifestyle for
the user, it has nothing to do with the value of the data. I only w
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 20:26:37 +, Lisi wrote:
> On Tuesday 04 January 2011 16:56:58 Camaleón wrote:
>> > One day she messed up her registry to the point where reinstallation
>> > was essential. She assured me when asked that her precious 'photos
>> > were all fine and she had off-computer copie
On Tuesday 04 January 2011 16:56:58 Camaleón wrote:
> > One day she messed up her registry to the point where reinstallation was
> > essential. She assured me when asked that her precious 'photos were all
> > fine and she had off-computer copies of all of them. When, after the
> > event, it becam
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:58:40 +, Lisi wrote:
> On Monday 29 November 2010 16:47:31 Camaleón wrote:
>> Oh, c'mon. There is no need to be a "computer scientist" to care about
>> your data. Not today. You can buy a USB external disk (or DVD media)
>> and put there your beloved files. Even Windows
On Monday 29 November 2010 16:47:31 Camaleón wrote:
> Oh, c'mon. There is no need to be a "computer scientist" to care about
> your data. Not today. You can buy a USB external disk (or DVD media) and
> put there your beloved files. Even Windows can automate this task for you.
In my experience hoi
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:00:01 +, Joe wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:47:31 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:20:27 +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Daughter is a banker, not computer scientist. IMHO many of those
>> > underestimate the importance of backups.
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:47:31 + (UTC)
Camaleón wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:20:27 +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
>
> >
> > Daughter is a banker, not computer scientist. IMHO many of those
> > underestimate the importance of backups.
>
> Oh, c'mon. There is no need to be a "computer sc
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:20:27 +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Camaleón wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:32:29 +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
>>
>> Last backup was from a year ago, that should give you some hints about
>> how valuable is data for the user.
>
> Daughter is a banker, not compu
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Camaleón wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:32:29 +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
>
> Last backup was from a year ago, that should give you some hints about
> how valuable is data for the user.
Daughter is a banker, not computer scientist. IMHO many o
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:32:29 +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Camaleón wrote:
>> Well, no need to worry. You are thinking in the worst scenario but even
>> if the file system structure is completey destroyed, "defrag" is also
>> capable of performing a test only disk analysis and so does "chkd
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Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 18:48:18 +0100, Axel Freyn wrote:
>> A similiar point is true for scandisk / chkdsk: Again, independent on
>> the filesystem: Once the filesystem is corrupted, the recovery tool has
>> to make assumptions about wha
On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 18:48:18 +0100, Axel Freyn wrote:
> Hi Camaleón,
>> > But that is extremly dangerous...: you risk to loose/destroy
>> > informations on the damaged filesystem (nobody guarantees, that
>> > scandisk is not destroying data...). And especially defrag: this WILL
>> > destroy data,
Hi Camaleón,
> > But that is extremly dangerous...: you risk to loose/destroy
> > informations on the damaged filesystem (nobody guarantees, that scandisk
> > is not destroying data...). And especially defrag: this WILL destroy
> > data, which are in lost files (=sectors of the harddisk which seem
On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:22:17 +0100, Axel Freyn wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 03:31:48PM +, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 08:54:49 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
>>
>> > Situation: My daughter works for a bank and must use Microsoft to
>> > work at home. Yesterday the system would
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 08:54:49AM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
> Situation: My daughter works for a bank and must use Microsoft to work
> at home. Yesterday the system would not boot - no safe mode, no
> nothing, just return to loading bios.
>
> The machine is an HP desktop which came preloade
On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 08:54:49 -0500
"Thomas H. George" wrote:
> Situation: My daughter works for a bank and must use Microsoft to work
> at home. Yesterday the system would not boot - no safe mode, no
> nothing, just return to loading bios.
>
> The machine is an HP desktop which came preloaded w
Hi,
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 03:31:48PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 08:54:49 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
>
> > Situation: My daughter works for a bank and must use Microsoft to work
> > at home. Yesterday the system would not boot - no safe mode, no
> > nothing, just return to
On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 08:54:49 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
> Situation: My daughter works for a bank and must use Microsoft to work
> at home. Yesterday the system would not boot - no safe mode, no
> nothing, just return to loading bios.
(...)
> Is there any chance of recovering usable files b
On Sunday 28 November 2010 14:54:49 Thomas H. George wrote:
> Situation: My daughter works for a bank and must use Microsoft to work
> at home. Yesterday the system would not boot - no safe mode, no
> nothing, just return to loading bios.
>
> The machine is an HP desktop which came preloaded with
Situation: My daughter works for a bank and must use Microsoft to work
at home. Yesterday the system would not boot - no safe mode, no
nothing, just return to loading bios.
The machine is an HP desktop which came preloaded with Windows XP
Professional. As instructed we made a recovery disk and s
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 01:29:43AM +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote:
> However, I've just run into a problem I've never encountered (or never
> knew I encountered) before - I'm getting messages saying "socket
> such_and_such skipped.
Here is some output from my daily backup script:
Tarring various stuf
Hi all,
I'm wanting to make my linux partition slightly smaller to make room for
that other OS. I've got / on a reiserfs partition, which i believe
cannot beresized at the start, so I'll have to backup the whole system,
repartition, and restore. No sweat, I've done this before.
However, I've j
on Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 09:01:17AM +0800, Support ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi! Debian Users
>
>
> How to make a hole Debian O/S backup if I don't have any Backup
> Device..?
Depends on what you mean by 'backup', and what specifically you're
guarding against (what's your threat model).
I pro
Alvin Oga wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Support wrote:
>
>> Hi! Debian Users
>>
>> How to make a hole Debian O/S backup if I don't have any Backup
>> Device..?
>
> you dont need to do a debian os backup
> - its backed up on the internet at gazillion places
> - you can get free *.iso debian ima
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> Hi! Debian Users
>
>
> How to make a hole Debian O/S backup if I don't have any Backup
Device..?
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Support
Have a look at mkCDrec. I've used it to make a recovery disk of one of
our webservers.
http://m
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Support wrote:
> Hi! Debian Users
>
> How to make a hole Debian O/S backup if I don't have any Backup Device..?
you dont need to do a debian os backup
- its backed up on the internet at gazillion places
- you can get free *.iso debian images
- you ca
Thank Micheal Bellears ... Will download and try it .
Thank Q
Best Regards,
Support
At 10:00 AM 4/7/04, Michael Bellears wrote:
>
> How to make a hole Debian O/S backup if I don't have any
> Backup Device..?
SystemImager - http://www.systemimager.org/
Have not used it, but it looks excellent.
Thank for your info ... I will try it.
Best regards,
SUPPORT
At 09:44 AM 4/7/04, Nitebirdz wrote:
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 09:33:27AM +0800, Support wrote:
> Thank for your reply Nitebirdz ... I`m intend to clone the whole
> installation and data in ISO format.
>
> When my Debian O/S is currupt I
>
> How to make a hole Debian O/S backup if I don't have any
> Backup Device..?
SystemImager - http://www.systemimager.org/
Have not used it, but it looks excellent.
Regards,
MB
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 09:33:27AM +0800, Support wrote:
> Thank for your reply Nitebirdz ... I`m intend to clone the whole
> installation and data in ISO format.
>
> When my Debian O/S is currupt I can just Restore it from booting via CDROM.
>
Mondo may be what you are looking for. Check it o
At 09:10 AM 4/7/04, Nitebirdz wrote:
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 09:01:17AM +0800, Support wrote:
> Hi! Debian Users
>
>
> How to make a hole Debian O/S backup if I don't have any Backup Device..?
>
I suppose by "backup device" you are referring to tape or CD-RW, for example.
In other words, you have n
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 09:01:17AM +0800, Support wrote:
> Hi! Debian Users
>
>
> How to make a hole Debian O/S backup if I don't have any Backup Device..?
>
I suppose by "backup device" you are referring to tape or CD-RW, for example.
In other words, you have nothing but another disk. Is this
Hi! Debian Users
How to make a hole Debian O/S backup if I don't have any Backup Device..?
Best Regards,
Support
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> On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Ray wrote:
>
>> was wondering if there is a package that is opitmized for backing up a
>> debian system, like something that would compare the installed system to
>> a set of cds (ie the install cd set) and then write out the configuration
>> and additional packages to c
es to cd|iso|tape|whatever. so that the when the
> restore is run it only asks a very few or no configuation questions.
>
> i did try 'apt-cache search' and google with no success, probably just the
> wrong keywords.
what keywords did you use ??
for debian backup ..
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:00:08 -0500
Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> was wondering if there is a package that is opitmized for backing up a
>
> debian system, like something that would compare the installed system
> to a set of cds (ie the install cd set) and then write out the
> configuration an
May be `backup2l' [testing] is your candidate.
Ray wrote:
was wondering if there is a package that is opitmized for backing up a
debian system, like something that would compare the installed system to
a set of cds (ie the install cd set) and then write out the configuration
and additional pac
was wondering if there is a package that is opitmized for backing up a
debian system, like something that would compare the installed system to
a set of cds (ie the install cd set) and then write out the configuration
and additional packages to cd|iso|tape|whatever. so that the when the
resto
Hi,
I'm looking for the right way to restore a backuped debian system: The
main system ist archived by "dar", excluding all binaries in /sbin, /bin
and the complete /usr directory. There is a list of alle installed
packages, retrieved by dpkg --get-selection
The backup medium (harddisk) contains a
on Thu, Mar 07, 2002, Lee Braiden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Just wondering, on Windows.. I once used a backup system (Quickbackup, I
> think), which would figure out which files on your system were standard
> installations off a CDROM (using a database of common software & files,
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 02:25:15PM +0100, Hans Ekbrand wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 04:24:29AM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote:
> > just backup /etc and /home and /usr/local...
> > ( everything else "should have been installed from cdrom" )
> >
> > and if you wanna backup pending emails etc..etc..
> >
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 04:24:29AM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote:
> if you move all your config and isntall db files to known
> directories..
>
> and if you descipline yourself and your users to put data only
> into /usr/local or /home than you're all set...
>
> just backup /etc and /home and /usr
hi ya
if you move all your config and isntall db files to known
directories..
and if you descipline yourself and your users to put data only
into /usr/local or /home than you're all set...
just backup /etc and /home and /usr/local...
( everything else "should have been installed from cdro
Hi Folks,
Just wondering, on Windows.. I once used a backup system (Quickbackup, I
think), which would figure out which files on your system were standard
installations off a CDROM (using a database of common software & files,
I presume), and only backup your own personal stuff.
It stricks me tha
David Welton wrote:
>
> Hi, I need to back up 4 or 5 local Debian boxes, and am wondering
> which of the various backup programs included in Debian have worked
> well for people. I've had a look at afbackup and tob, and they seem
> *ok*, but nothing spectacular. I am more interested in something
On Tue, Aug 04, 1998 at 05:45:52PM -0700, David Welton wrote:
> Hi, I need to back up 4 or 5 local Debian boxes, and am wondering
> which of the various backup programs included in Debian have worked
> well for people. I've had a look at afbackup and tob, and they seem
> *ok*, but nothing spectacu
Hi, I need to back up 4 or 5 local Debian boxes, and am wondering
which of the various backup programs included in Debian have worked
well for people. I've had a look at afbackup and tob, and they seem
*ok*, but nothing spectacular. I am more interested in something that
is safe and simple... I a
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