On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 02:17:47 +1100,
Rob Weir wrote:
>
> > csj wrote:
> >
> > >Real world case: scribus (probably the best GPL'ed or better
> > >DTP app).
>
> I never did find out about this. If it doesn't work, perhaps
> you should file a wishlist bug on the package asking for
> support.
Apparen
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:19:48PM -0800, Daniel L. Miller said
> csj wrote:
> >Real world case: scribus (probably the best GPL'ed or better DTP
> >app).
I never did find out about this. If it doesn't work, perhaps you should
file a wishlist bug on the package asking for support.
> But doing th
csj wrote:
At Sat, 18 Oct 2003 05:46:15 +1000,
Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 07:59:16AM +0800, csj said
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:27:14 +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
Yes, defoma aka "Debian Font Manager". When you install a
new font, it handles setting up symlinks and such so that
you can just p
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 02:23:02AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said
>
>
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Rob,
> >
> > Thanks much for writing this up.
> >
> > One issue I have problems with is solving font problems with specific
> > applications. It think that's due to my gener
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 07:28:36AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said
> Rob,
>
> Thanks much for writing this up.
>
> One issue I have problems with is solving font problems with specific
> applications. It think that's due to my general lack of understanding
> of fonts, and that there's more than
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 02:23:02AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > ...
> > One issue I have problems with is solving font problems with specific
> > applications. It think that's due to my general lack of understanding
> > of fonts, and that there
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Rob,
>
> Thanks much for writing this up.
>
> One issue I have problems with is solving font problems with specific
> applications. It think that's due to my general lack of understanding
> of fonts, and that there's more than one font system in us
Rob,
Thanks much for writing this up.
One issue I have problems with is solving font problems with specific
applications. It think that's due to my general lack of understanding
of fonts, and that there's more than one font system in use.
I would love to see a trouble shooting section. I'm n
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 07:43:40PM +0200, Osamu Aoki said
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 06:56:10PM +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 08:09:56PM +0200, Osamu Aoki said
> > > Since it is a small topic, if you wish, I will be grad to make it a part
> > > of "Debian Reference". Rewite aro
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 06:56:10PM +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 08:09:56PM +0200, Osamu Aoki said
> > Rob,
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 06:58:45AM -0700, M. Kirchhoff wrote:
> > > Quoting Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > > I've just spent a while expanding on my sh
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 08:09:56PM +0200, Osamu Aoki said
> Rob,
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 06:58:45AM -0700, M. Kirchhoff wrote:
> > Quoting Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > I've just spent a while expanding on my short guide that I've used on
> > > the list a couple of times. It's avai
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 04:33:15PM -0700, Ross Boylan said
> Rob, thanks for making this available. I have one comment.
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 06:33:09PM +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> > 4) Add :unscaled to the end of the 100dpi and 75dpi font lines, so they
> >look like this
> >
> > Fon
At Sat, 18 Oct 2003 05:46:15 +1000,
Rob Weir wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 07:59:16AM +0800, csj said
> > On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:27:14 +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> > > Yes, defoma aka "Debian Font Manager". When you install a
> > > new font, it handles setting up symlinks and such so that
> > >
->>In response to your message<<-
--received from Rob Weir--
>
> > Determining which true type font package to install myself
> > isn't so obvious. Looks like any package starting with ttf- are true
> > type font packages. The only three that don't seem to be for another
> > language are the no
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 07:59:16AM +0800, csj said
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:27:14 +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> > Yes, defoma aka "Debian Font Manager". When you install a new font,
> > it handles setting up symlinks and such so that you can just point X
> > at /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/T
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 03:07:52PM -0700, Paul Yeatman said
> > > The debconf message for defoma told me to put
> > > /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType as a FontPath in
> > > XF86Config-4 but my /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfon t-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/
> > > directory contains nothing but t
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:27:14 +1000,
Rob Weir wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 07:47:50AM +0800, csj said
[...]
> > Your detailed tips have me wondering if there's really an
> > official(tm) Debian way of managing fonts, something
> > relatively easy like "dpkg-reconfigure".
>
> Yes, defoma ak
->>In response to your message<<-
--received from Rob Weir--
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 12:05:21PM -0700, Paul Yeatman said
> > So, for the sake of clarification as some conflicting statements have
> > been made, as long as the FontPath to
> > /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType is
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 01:05:44PM -0700, Tom wrote:
> I just did a clean reinstall of SID (I keep a local mirror and have it
> scripted down to 30 minutes :-)).
>
> My /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/fonts.alias is
> an empty file.
>
> Here's the the contents of that directory:
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 12:05:21PM -0700, Paul Yeatman said
> So, for the sake of clarification as some conflicting statements have
> been made, as long as the FontPath to
> /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType is given in
> XF86Config-4, the order of the FontPaths doesn't matter, ie. e
I just did a clean reinstall of SID (I keep a local mirror and have it
scripted down to 30 minutes :-)).
My /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/fonts.alias is
an empty file.
Here's the the contents of that directory:
# ls /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/
fonts.alias
->>In response to your message<<-
--received from Rob Weir--
>
> Yes, defoma aka "Debian Font Manager". When you install a new font, it
> handles setting up symlinks and such so that you can just point X at
> /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, and leave it alone.
> Without defoma,
Quoting Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> For some apocryphal reason I think I need it for fluxbox to be pretty.
> But I might need to rexamine my assumptions :-)
>
> Or perhaps I'm getting confused when I messed around with xterm's XFT
> ability.
Depends on what version of fluxbox you're using. Ver
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 04:06:44AM +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 10:39:29AM -0700, Tom said
> > I've been patching my /etc/X11/Xftconfig as well as XF86Config-4
> > to manually point to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera.
> > Your suggestion says to only update XF86Conf
Rob,
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 06:58:45AM -0700, M. Kirchhoff wrote:
> Quoting Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > I've just spent a while expanding on my short guide that I've used on
> > the list a couple of times. It's available from
> > http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt and is reprod
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 10:39:29AM -0700, Tom said
> I've been patching my /etc/X11/Xftconfig as well as XF86Config-4
> to manually point to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera.
> Your suggestion says to only update XF86Config-4. Should I point
> XftConfig to /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 10:39:29AM -0700, Tom wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 03:27:14AM +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 07:47:50AM +0800, csj said
> > > At Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:33:09 +1000,
> > > Rob Weir wrote:
> [snip]
> I've been patching my /etc/X11/Xftconfig as well as XF8
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 03:27:14AM +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 07:47:50AM +0800, csj said
> > At Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:33:09 +1000,
> > Rob Weir wrote:
[snip]
> Yes, defoma aka "Debian Font Manager". When you install a new font, it
> handles setting up symlinks and such so that
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 07:47:50AM +0800, csj said
> At Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:33:09 +1000,
> Rob Weir wrote:
> >
>
> [...]
>
> > For GNOME2 and KDE3, you need to setup "fontconfig" which Xft2
> > uses to find fonts. I'll get to that in a minute.
>
> I didn't have to do anything to get my fonts a
At Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:33:09 +1000,
Rob Weir wrote:
>
[...]
> For GNOME2 and KDE3, you need to setup "fontconfig" which Xft2
> uses to find fonts. I'll get to that in a minute.
I didn't have to do anything to get my fonts available to GNOME2
and KDE3. I've always been puzzled tho why my GTK1
Quoting Ross Boylan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Rob, thanks for making this available. I have one comment.
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 06:33:09PM +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> > 4) Add :unscaled to the end of the 100dpi and 75dpi font lines, so they
> >look like this
> >
> > FontPath"/us
Rob, thanks for making this available. I have one comment.
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 06:33:09PM +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> 4) Add :unscaled to the end of the 100dpi and 75dpi font lines, so they
>look like this
>
> FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
> FontPath
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:30:26AM -0700, Paul Yeatman said
> Two questions though from someone with no fonts understanding. It
> seems assumed that:
>
> FontPath "unix/:7100"# local font server
XFree86 4 can read TrueType fonts all by itself, so there's no need to
Rob Weir, great guide, thanks!
Two questions though from someone with no fonts understanding. It
seems assumed that:
FontPath "unix/:7100"# local font server
is right out? (I think someone in this thread mentioned a font server
not being necessary for "most user
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Kirchhoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 9:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Debian Font Guide for Newbies and the Confused
>
>
> Quoting Ross Boylan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> &
[erk, to the list now]
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 08:25:30PM -0700, M. Kirchhoff said
> While looking through the deb-user archives for some font-related info, I
> discovered that there is still an insane amount of confusion regarding fonts
> under XFree86. Googling, which new users tend to rely on,
Quoting Ross Boylan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Personally, I think restricting the focus to stable, or just certain
> aspects of it, is a bit limiting, but it's your call.
I'm the rare breed that actually runs Stable on my production, every-day-use
desktop. I'm not a programmer, and I do very litt
Quoting Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I've just spent a while expanding on my short guide that I've used on
> the list a couple of times. It's available from
> http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt and is reproduced below so
> people can criticies it more easily :)
By jove, you've got i
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 07:34:05PM +1300, Paul William wrote:
>
> > (4) requires a working (1) and moreover requires modifying
> > /etc/X11/XftConfig; in particular enabling anti-aliasing (match edit
> > rgba = rgb) and pointing to TrueType (dir "..path..to..bitstream-vera").
> > (4) is represen
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 20:25, M. Kirchhoff wrote:
> While looking through the deb-user archives for some font-related info, I
> discovered that there is still an insane amount of confusion regarding fonts
> under XFree86. Googling, which new users tend to rely on, results in myriad yet
> often contr
> (4) requires a working (1) and moreover requires modifying
> /etc/X11/XftConfig; in particular enabling anti-aliasing (match edit
> rgba = rgb) and pointing to TrueType (dir "..path..to..bitstream-vera").
> (4) is representive of all Xft v1 apps. (4) also takes care of old GTK1
> apps.
I am
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 08:53:22PM -0700, M. Kirchhoff wrote:
> As an addition, note that this guide will cover only the X core font system.
> AFAIK (and correct me if I'm wrong), fontconfig is not available under Stable,
> which rules out a discussion of Xft at this time...
>
> I'm pledging to k
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:25:30 -0700
"M. Kirchhoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While looking through the deb-user archives for some font-related info, I
> discovered that there is still an insane amount of confusion regarding fonts
> under XFree86. Googling, which new users tend to rely on, result
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 08:25:30PM -0700, M. Kirchhoff wrote:
>
> This guide will cover *only* stand-alone workstations. As of Xfree 4.x, it is
> absolutely unnecessary to run a font server if serving fonts isn't a requisite,
> i.e. most users. It will also cover on Woody stable. There will be n
As an addition, note that this guide will cover only the X core font system.
AFAIK (and correct me if I'm wrong), fontconfig is not available under Stable,
which rules out a discussion of Xft at this time...
I'm pledging to keep the guide up-to-date, so at some point it will cover the
transition
While looking through the deb-user archives for some font-related info, I
discovered that there is still an insane amount of confusion regarding fonts
under XFree86. Googling, which new users tend to rely on, results in myriad yet
often contracting font guides.
The two biggies--The Font De-Uglif
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