Re: [solved] Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd

2024-06-01 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
Just to compare, when Red Hat released 9.0 maybe 2 years ago (9.2 is current until 30 June) they disabled by default many older key-lengths and algorithms in SSL that were known to be weak. This caused issues for existing installations. You could either re-enable the weaker methods (easy but a pain

Re: [solved] Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd

2024-06-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 01/06/2024 16:42, Thomas Schmitt wrote: debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_6.7p1 Debian-5 (I wonder what the string "Debian-5" may mean. The Debian 12 machine has debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_9.2p1 Debian-2+deb12u2 So "-5" is not the

[solved] Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd

2024-06-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
e id_rsa key. Indeed NEWS.Debian.gz links PubkeyAcceptedAlgorithms +ssh-rsa to RSA/SHA1. This is the explanation why the message does not say that ssh-rsa is disabled and why the web is so unclear about the ssh-rsa hash algorithm. So the Debian 12 client really offered the RSA key but not in a way

Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd

2024-05-31 Thread Max Nikulin
On 01/06/2024 01:52, Thomas Schmitt wrote: debug1: Offering public key:/home/.../.ssh/id_rsa RSA SHA256:... [...] The Debian 12 ssh client is obviously willing to try ssh-rsa. My reading of /usr/share/doc/openssh-client/NEWS.Debian.gz is that ssh-rsa means SHA1 while clients offers SHA256

Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd

2024-05-31 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:08 PM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > i still have network access to a Debian 8 system, to which i logged in > from Debian 11 via ssh and a ssh-rsa key. After the upgrade to Debian 12 > ssh fails with this public key authentication. > The probably relevant mess

[solved] Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd

2024-05-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
"publickey". and leads to a shell session on the Debian 8 machine. So the mere message debug1: Offering public key: /home/.../.ssh/id_rsa RSA SHA256:... does not mean that RSA would be acceptable on the client side. It would be nice if the refusal message would be somewhat clearer tha

Re: No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd

2024-05-31 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 31 May 2024 20:52 +0200, from scdbac...@gmx.net (Thomas Schmitt): > The ssh-rsa key was generated by Debian 10. man ssh-keygen of buster > says the default of option -b with RSA was 2048. > (Does anybody know how to analyze a key file in regard to such > parameters ?) $ ssh-keygen -l -f $pubkey

No login with Debian 12 ssh client, ssh-rsa key, Debian 8 sshd

2024-05-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i still have network access to a Debian 8 system, to which i logged in from Debian 11 via ssh and a ssh-rsa key. After the upgrade to Debian 12 ssh fails with this public key authentication. The probably relevant messages from a run of ssh -vvv are: debug1: Offering public key: /home

Re: how to debootstrap Debian 8 Jessie released 2015-04-25 on Ubuntu 14.04

2023-06-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 10:22:56AM +0200, Mario Marietto wrote: > ok. these works : > > debootstrap --foreign --arch=armhf jessie jessie-armhf > http://archive.debian.org/debian > > debootstrap --foreign --arch=armhf strech strech-armhf > http://archive.debian.org/debian > > but not this : > >

Re: how to debootstrap Debian 8 Jessie released 2015-04-25 on Ubuntu 14.04

2023-06-18 Thread Javier Barroso
Hello, El dom., 18 jun. 2023 10:23, Mario Marietto escribió: > ok. these works : > > debootstrap --foreign --arch=armhf jessie jessie-armhf > http://archive.debian.org/debian > > debootstrap --foreign --arch=armhf strech strech-armhf > http://archive.debian.org/debian > > but not this : > > root

Re: how to debootstrap Debian 8 Jessie released 2015-04-25 on Ubuntu 14.04

2023-06-18 Thread Mario Marietto
ok. these works : debootstrap --foreign --arch=armhf jessie jessie-armhf http://archive.debian.org/debian debootstrap --foreign --arch=armhf strech strech-armhf http://archive.debian.org/debian but not this : root@marietto-Z87-HD3:/home/marietto/Scrivania/Chromebook/linux-distros# debootstrap -

Re: how to debootstrap Debian 8 Jessie released 2015-04-25 on Ubuntu 14.04

2023-06-18 Thread Mario Marietto
Can you elaborate the full command ? thanks. On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 10:12 AM Javier Barroso wrote: > Hello, > > El dom., 18 jun. 2023 9:56, Mario Marietto > escribió: > >> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 and I would like to debootstrap debian jessie 8. >> I've found this tutorial and I tried , but it

Re: how to debootstrap Debian 8 Jessie released 2015-04-25 on Ubuntu 14.04

2023-06-18 Thread Javier Barroso
Hello, El dom., 18 jun. 2023 9:56, Mario Marietto escribió: > I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 and I would like to debootstrap debian jessie 8. > I've found this tutorial and I tried , but it didn't work : > > from here : > > https://blog.lazy-evaluation.net/posts/linux/debian-armhf-bootstrap.html > > >

how to debootstrap Debian 8 Jessie released 2015-04-25 on Ubuntu 14.04

2023-06-18 Thread Mario Marietto
I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 and I would like to debootstrap debian jessie 8. I've found this tutorial and I tried , but it didn't work : from here : https://blog.lazy-evaluation.net/posts/linux/debian-armhf-bootstrap.html he says to do : # debootstrap --foreign --arch=armhf jessie jessie-armhf

Re: Debian 8

2022-09-29 Thread tomas
sons to do so. I take that back, then :) (now seriously: sorry for my sloppy reading) > > If you need to install an older Debian, that's what the archives are > > for [...] > Yes, archive.debian.org is your friend here. > I doubt you are doing anything useful with something

Re: Debian 8

2022-09-29 Thread hede
d play there). I doubt you are doing anything useful with something like Debian 8 and 4 MB of RAM, I bet it was way older. The smallest system I'd ever use with a post-2000 Linux had 32 MB of RAM and used Linux 2.4 even after way newer kernels were released, for reasons. You should som

Re: Debian 8

2022-09-29 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 08:13:56PM +0100, David wrote: [...] > The software I want to run is provided by Ubiquity as an NVR for their > cameras, I have versions for Debian 7, 8 & 9. I think the warnings from both Andys and hede are a bit too one-sided, if well-meant. If you need to install an o

Re: Debian 8

2022-09-29 Thread David
On Thu, 2022-09-29 at 14:52 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 03:09:13PM +0100, David wrote: > > I have loaded Debian 8 on to a 64 bit pc. > > > > Everything went well until I came to configure it, the local screen > > is > > blank, but if

Re: Debian 8

2022-09-29 Thread hede
Am 29.09.2022 18:02, schrieb Andy Smith: Hello, On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 03:43:32PM +0100, David wrote: The reason for Debian 8 is the software I want to run on it. This is a really bad idea. The whole thing is lacking security fixes, so it will only continue to get worse. If there was no

Re: Debian 8

2022-09-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 03:43:32PM +0100, David wrote: > The reason for Debian 8 is the software I want to run on it. This is a really bad idea. The whole thing is lacking security fixes, so it will only continue to get worse. If there was no way to make this software work on a

Re: Debian 8

2022-09-29 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 03:09:13PM +0100, David wrote: > I have loaded Debian 8 on to a 64 bit pc. > > Everything went well until I came to configure it, the local screen is > blank, but if I SSH into the box it works. But I can only logon as a > user. > > I need to be abl

Re: Debian 8

2022-09-29 Thread David
On Thu, 2022-09-29 at 10:22 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2022-09-29 at 10:09, David wrote: > > > I have loaded Debian 8 on to a 64 bit pc. > > Why? The current release is Debian 11, and Debian 8 is old enough > that > I'd be surprised if it were getting any

Re: Debian 8

2022-09-29 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-09-29 at 10:09, David wrote: > I have loaded Debian 8 on to a 64 bit pc. Why? The current release is Debian 11, and Debian 8 is old enough that I'd be surprised if it were getting any support at all. Is there some specific purpose for which you specifically need to instal

Re: Debian 8

2022-09-29 Thread Anssi Saari
David writes: > I have loaded Debian 8 on to a 64 bit pc. > > Everything went well until I came to configure it, the local screen is > blank, but if I SSH into the box it works. But I can only logon as a > user. > > I need to be able to logon as root to make changes. I&#x

Re: Debian 8

2022-09-29 Thread David Wright
On Thu 29 Sep 2022 at 15:09:13 (+0100), David wrote: > I have loaded Debian 8 on to a 64 bit pc. > > Everything went well until I came to configure it, the local screen is > blank, but if I SSH into the box it works. But I can only logon as a > user. > > I need to be abl

Debian 8

2022-09-29 Thread David
I have loaded Debian 8 on to a 64 bit pc. Everything went well until I came to configure it, the local screen is blank, but if I SSH into the box it works. But I can only logon as a user. I need to be able to logon as root to make changes. I've tried sudu, but as the sudo program has not

Re: Debian 8 system is not fully functional

2020-12-24 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 8:08 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 12:49:30PM +0800, zhang yang wrote: > > IP_ dynaddr > > To modify and save the prompt: "IP"_ dynaddr" E212: Can't open file for > > writing“. > > So I used Chmod 777 ip_ dynaddr authority, display error: Chmod: changing

Re: Debian 8 system is not fully functional

2020-12-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 12:49:30PM +0800, zhang yang wrote: > IP_ dynaddr > To modify and save the prompt: "IP"_ dynaddr" E212: Can't open file for > writing“. > So I used Chmod 777 ip_ dynaddr authority, display error: Chmod: changing > permissions of 'IP_ dynaddr': Operation not permitted. > I us

Re: Debian 8 system is not fully functional

2020-12-23 Thread zhang yang
When I turn it on https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/networking/ip-sysctl.html I guess it's IP_ Dynaddr - Boolean. If set non-zero, enables support for dynamic addresses. If set to a non-zero value larger than 1, a kernel log message will be printed when dynamic address rewriting occurs.Default

Re: Debian 8 system is not fully functional

2020-12-23 Thread Dan Ritter
zhang yang wrote: > When I write a raw socket to send packets in Linux C, it shows: > WARNNING:The current server does not support IP spoofing. > How to set up debian8 system to use this function 1. Read https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/networking/ip-sysctl.html 2. Install a Debian 10 (sta

Debian 8 system is not fully functional

2020-12-23 Thread zhang yang
When I write a raw socket to send packets in Linux C, it shows: WARNNING:The current server does not support IP spoofing. How to set up debian8 system to use this function

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-18 Thread David Wright
On Wed 18 Nov 2020 at 13:03:13 (-0500), Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:18:33PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > David Wright composed on 2020-11-18 09:46 (UTC-0600): > > > > > IIRC the Release Notes usually > > > recommend upgrading the kernel (its minor version upgrade) early > >

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:18:33PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: David Wright composed on 2020-11-18 09:46 (UTC-0600): IIRC the Release Notes usually recommend upgrading the kernel (its minor version upgrade) early in the distribution upgrade process. I don't recall ever seeing that. Curious. Eve

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-18 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2020-11-18 09:46 (UTC-0600): > IIRC the Release Notes usually > recommend upgrading the kernel (its minor version upgrade) early > in the distribution upgrade process. I don't recall ever seeing that. Curious. Even though all my own installations are in multiboot, for Fed

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 18 nov 20, 09:46:04, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 17 Nov 2020 at 17:43:43 (+0200), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > Depending on when in the release cycle the dist-upgrade is done the > > newer kernel image may not even be available yet > > All the kernels listed above are available now. The O

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-18 Thread David Wright
On Tue 17 Nov 2020 at 17:43:43 (+0200), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 17 nov 20, 09:24:05, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 15 Nov 2020 at 10:41:55 (+0200), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Sb, 14 nov 20, 16:36:03, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > > > > On 11/13/20 9:29 PM, David Wright wrote: > > > > > > >

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 17 nov 20, 09:24:05, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 15 Nov 2020 at 10:41:55 (+0200), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Sb, 14 nov 20, 16:36:03, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > > > On 11/13/20 9:29 PM, David Wright wrote: > > > > > > > I would have thought that Debian has made kernel testing just about as

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-17 Thread David Wright
On Sun 15 Nov 2020 at 10:41:55 (+0200), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 14 nov 20, 16:36:03, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > > On 11/13/20 9:29 PM, David Wright wrote: > > > > > I would have thought that Debian has made kernel testing just about as > > > easy as they can since: > > > jessie installs with

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 14 nov 20, 16:36:03, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > On 11/13/20 9:29 PM, David Wright wrote: > > > > > I would have thought that Debian has made kernel testing just about as > > easy as they can since: > > jessie installs with 3.16 but 4.9 is also available, > > stretch installs with 4.9 but

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-14 Thread John Hasler
Charles Curley writes: > True. But it does require emacs. Which in the context of the OP's > requirement, stands for "Eighty Megs And Constantly Swapping" :-) It was "eight Megs and constantly swapping": eight Megs was huge on a Vax. In the 90s I ran text-mode Emacs on a 386 box with 16M with no

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 14:41:40 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > Charles Curley writes: > >And has the further virtue of not requiring a GUI, only ncurses. > > Gnus doesn't even require ncurses. True. But it does require emacs. Which in the context of the OP's requirement, stands for "Eighty Megs And

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-14 Thread John Hasler
Charles Curley writes: >And has the further virtue of not requiring a GUI, only ncurses. Gnus doesn't even require ncurses. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-14 Thread Felix Miata
Miroslav Skoric composed on 2020-11-14 17:02 (UTC+0100): > I understood from this thread that after distro upgrade > from 8 to 9 shall work in CLI, and then look for a simple window manager > & light mail processor. I can't imagine why it wouldn't work. Last night I performed a fresh installat

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-14 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 12:49:05 -0500 Dan Ritter wrote: > In my opinion, mutt is the best mail user agent of all. It's > also one of the most efficient. And has the further virtue of not requiring a GUI, only ncurses. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://ch

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-14 Thread Dan Ritter
Miroslav Skoric wrote: > On 11/12/20 9:53 AM, Michael Lange wrote: > > In any case, I understood from this thread that after distro upgrade from 8 > to 9 shall work in CLI, and then look for a simple window manager & light > mail processor. In my opinion, mutt is the best mail user agent of all

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-14 Thread Miroslav Skoric
On 11/13/20 3:52 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Beware that LTS support for jessie ended in June 2020. https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/ That system should be upgraded to some release with security support as soon as possible, especially since it's dealing with e-mail as far as I understand

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-14 Thread Miroslav Skoric
On 11/13/20 9:29 PM, David Wright wrote: I would have thought that Debian has made kernel testing just about as easy as they can since: jessie installs with 3.16 but 4.9 is also available, stretch installs with 4.9 but 4.19 is also available, buster installs with 4.19 so there's full overla

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-14 Thread Miroslav Skoric
On 11/12/20 9:53 AM, Michael Lange wrote: A really good option in this field is IceWM. It has everything a typical user needs out-of-the-box and is extremely lightweight (and themeable). From my own experience I agree about that. Still, the tricky part will be to choose other gui programs

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-13 Thread Stefan Monnier
> The problem is the same as the original post: something bad happens, swap > gets used or over-used, and the machine locks. AFAIK this is not a common problem. There's a known problem in ZFS that exhibits this behavior, and IIRC there could be similar problems in the past if you tried to swap ov

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-13 Thread David Wright
t; If you have an easy means to do that: Yes, I would highly recommend doing > > > that. > > > > I'll consider that kind of test (if possible at all). Need to check what > > (newer) kernels are available in Debian 8 repository. Cannot remember now > > what

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-13 Thread mick crane
On 2020-11-13 17:09, Dan Ritter wrote: On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 9:20 AM Dan Ritter wrote: Something ate it. Weird. d...@randomstring.org is correct. was sent to d...@randomstring.org -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-13 Thread Dan Ritter
Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > The problem is the same as the original post: something bad happens, swap > gets used or over-used, and the machine locks. Without even a warning > message. Linux always behaved that way. BSD-derived OS's running on the > very same commodity Intel hardware dont have that

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-13 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
The problem is the same as the original post: something bad happens, swap gets used or over-used, and the machine locks. Without even a warning message. Linux always behaved that way. BSD-derived OS's running on the very same commodity Intel hardware dont have that problem. Among my fellow system a

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-13 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
The problem is the same as the original post: something bad happens, swap gets used or over-used, and the machine locks. Without even a warning message. BSD-derived OS's running on the very same commodity Intel hardware dont have that problem. Why does linux? On Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 9:20 AM Dan Ritt

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-13 Thread Dan Ritter
Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > I guess Im not the only crank with antique hardware. One of my few unending > beefs with the linux kernel is swap behavior. Everyone knows what it's for > and how it "works". But even glancing thru the code doesn't explain its > real-time run-time behavior. In contrast,

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-13 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
I guess Im not the only crank with antique hardware. One of my few unending beefs with the linux kernel is swap behavior. Everyone knows what it's for and how it "works". But even glancing thru the code doesn't explain its real-time run-time behavior. In contrast, the last time I had swap issues li

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
> > I'll consider that kind of test (if possible at all). Need to check what > (newer) kernels are available in Debian 8 repository. Cannot remember now > what (if any) kernel change occurred when I upgraded 7 to 8. Just for testing purposes you could try a jessie-backports k

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-13 Thread Stefan Monnier
> When it happens, I'll probably play the same 'upgrade game' with the next > 'elderly' candidate (CPU Athlon XP 2500+ 1.84 GHz, 512 MB RAM). I purchased > it some ten years ago as then second-hand, for some 70 US$, incl. CRT > display, keyboard, mouse ... I have recently upgraded it from Deb 8 to

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-13 Thread Miroslav Skoric
easy means to do that: Yes, I would highly recommend doing that. I'll consider that kind of test (if possible at all). Need to check what (newer) kernels are available in Debian 8 repository. Cannot remember now what (if any) kernel change occurred when I upgraded 7 to 8. Misko

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-13 Thread Miroslav Skoric
On 11/13/20 2:36 AM, Doug McGarrett wrote: I have been only cursorily following here, since I don't use debian, but I wonder if you might consider upgrading your mother board to a new one the same size and shape, with a faster processor and probably more ram. Then the latest version of deb wou

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
traditional window manager, not a desktop environment. > At this stage (Debian 8) I do that in MATE + Thunderbird. It's slow but > works. What is not known is whether that would work in Debian 9. There's only one way to be sure. I have no idea how much memory Thunderbird use

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
ght be workable at best (Mate, Xfce, ...)? > As I said, for nothing much more than occasional Thunderbird, or any other > compatible mail client that can use the CLI-based ham email server (FBB), to > process pop3/smtp mails by using copy/paste by mouse click etc. > > At this s

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 12 nov 20, 15:07:48, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 17:40:50 +0100 > Miroslav Skoric wrote: > > > I have an old comp (CPU Pentium II Celeron 400 MHz, 224 MB RAM) > > running ham radio server in Debian 8. It works well in CLI, but very > > slow a

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-12 Thread Doug McGarrett
On 11/12/20 4:52 PM, Miroslav Skoric wrote: On 11/11/20 7:42 PM, Felix Miata wrote: I have an old comp (CPU Pentium II Celeron 400 MHz, 224 MB RAM) running ham radio server in Debian 8. It works well in CLI, but very slow after starting GUI. I wonder whether it would be worth to try (if

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-12 Thread Charles Curley
er (FBB), to process pop3/smtp mails by using > copy/paste by mouse click etc. > > At this stage (Debian 8) I do that in MATE + Thunderbird. It's slow > but works. What is not known is whether that would work in Debian 9. Ah. Consider a non-GUI mail user agent (MUA). Pine and elm are

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-12 Thread Linux-Fan
Felix Miata writes: Miroslav Skoric composed on 2020-11-12 23:01 (UTC+0100): > At this stage (Debian 8) I do that in MATE + Thunderbird. It's slow but > works. What is not known is whether that would work in Debian 9. Possibly you could boot live media 9 to find out, or if you

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-12 Thread Linux-Fan
Miroslav Skoric writes: On 11/11/20 7:09 PM, Linux-Fan wrote: Pentium II is old indeed. Whenever using old processors, it is important to test if the new kernel will still support them. So maybe I shall try some newer kernel only? If you have an easy means to do that: Yes, I would highly r

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 17:40:50 +0100 Miroslav Skoric wrote: > I have an old comp (CPU Pentium II Celeron 400 MHz, 224 MB RAM) > running ham radio server in Debian 8. It works well in CLI, but very > slow after starting GUI. I wonder whether it would be worth to try > (if possibl

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-12 Thread Felix Miata
Miroslav Skoric composed on 2020-11-12 23:01 (UTC+0100): > At this stage (Debian 8) I do that in MATE + Thunderbird. It's slow but > works. What is not known is whether that would work in Debian 9. Possibly you could boot live media 9 to find out, or if you have enough disk spac

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-12 Thread Miroslav Skoric
On 11/11/20 7:42 PM, Felix Miata wrote: I have an old comp (CPU Pentium II Celeron 400 MHz, 224 MB RAM) running ham radio server in Debian 8. It works well in CLI, but very slow after starting GUI. I wonder whether it would be worth to try (if possible at all) to upgrade it to Debian 9. Any

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-12 Thread Miroslav Skoric
On 11/11/20 9:43 PM, Charles Curley wrote: I have an old comp (CPU Pentium II Celeron 400 MHz, 224 MB RAM) running ham radio server in Debian 8. It works well in CLI, but very slow after starting GUI. I wonder whether it would be worth to try (if possible at all) to upgrade it to Debian 9

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-12 Thread Miroslav Skoric
s terribly slow, but it is used only once in a while. It's also worth noting that Debian 8->9 has a huge change to X and video drivers. Lots of chipsets are supported *differently* in Debian 9 than they were in previous versions. Whether that's good or bad will depend on the chip

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-12 Thread Miroslav Skoric
On 11/11/20 7:09 PM, Linux-Fan wrote: Pentium II is old indeed. Whenever using old processors, it is important to test if the new kernel will still support them. So maybe I shall try some newer kernel only?

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-12 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 23:36:07 -0300 riveravaldez wrote: > On 11/11/20, Felix Miata wrote: > > Charles Curley composed on 2020-11-11 13:43 (UTC-0700): > > > >> Also consider a lightweight desktop such as XFCE. But I would > >> be surprised if that solution helped. > > > > Why do people keep c

Re: Celeron vis a vis Pentium (was: An old box running Debian 8)

2020-11-11 Thread Long Wind
On Thursday, November 12, 2020, 5:24:49 AM GMT+8, Felix Miata wrote: Celeron is a budget family of Intel processors, based upon Pentium II, III, 4 and newer Pentium processors. Pentium II Celeron means a Celeron based upon the Pentium II family, the oldest family of Celerons. OP probably

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-11 Thread riveravaldez
On 11/11/20, Felix Miata wrote: > Charles Curley composed on 2020-11-11 13:43 (UTC-0700): > >> Also consider a lightweight desktop such as XFCE. But I would >> be surprised if that solution helped. > > Why do people keep claiming XFCE is a lightweight? > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrvJOXypAbk

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-11 Thread Felix Miata
Charles Curley composed on 2020-11-11 13:43 (UTC-0700): > Also consider a lightweight desktop such as XFCE. But I would > be surprised if that solution helped. Why do people keep claiming XFCE is a lightweight? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrvJOXypAbk -- Evolution as taught in public schools,

Re: Celeron vis a vis Pentium (was: An old box running Debian 8)

2020-11-11 Thread Felix Miata
Long Wind composed on 2020-11-11 20:44 (UTC): >On Thursday, November 12, 2020, 1:45:18 AM GMT+8, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > I have an old comp (CPU Pentium II Celeron 400 MHz, 224 MB RAM) running... >...PS: Pentium II and Celeron are two processors. Celeron is a budget family of Intel proc

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-11 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 17:40:50 +0100 Miroslav Skoric wrote: > I have an old comp (CPU Pentium II Celeron 400 MHz, 224 MB RAM) > running ham radio server in Debian 8. It works well in CLI, but very > slow after starting GUI. I wonder whether it would be worth to try > (if possibl

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-11 Thread Felix Miata
Miroslav Skoric composed on 2020-11-11 17:40 (UTC+0100): > I have an old comp (CPU Pentium II Celeron 400 MHz, 224 MB RAM) running > ham radio server in Debian 8. It works well in CLI, but very slow after > starting GUI. I wonder whether it would be worth to try (if possible at

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-11 Thread Linux-Fan
Miroslav Skoric writes: I have an old comp (CPU Pentium II Celeron 400 MHz, 224 MB RAM) running ham radio server in Debian 8. It works well in CLI, but very slow after starting GUI. I wonder whether it would be worth to try (if possible at all) to upgrade it to Debian 9. Any experience

Re: An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 05:40:50PM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > I have an old comp (CPU Pentium II Celeron 400 MHz, 224 MB RAM) running ham > radio server in Debian 8. It works well in CLI, but very slow after starting > GUI. I wonder whether it would be worth to try (if possible a

An old box running Debian 8

2020-11-11 Thread Miroslav Skoric
I have an old comp (CPU Pentium II Celeron 400 MHz, 224 MB RAM) running ham radio server in Debian 8. It works well in CLI, but very slow after starting GUI. I wonder whether it would be worth to try (if possible at all) to upgrade it to Debian 9. Any experience with such old boxes? Misko

Re: Debian 8 Long Term Support reaching end-of-life

2020-07-09 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
I would like to say that Debian 8 was my bread and butter at work for most of its supported lifetime. And my main home platform as well, along with CentOS. I think that everyone involved deserves the highest praise. On Thu, Jul 9, 2020, 11:17 PM Laura Arjona Reina wrote

Debian 8 Long Term Support reaching end-of-life

2020-07-09 Thread Laura Arjona Reina
The Debian Project https://www.debian.org/ Debian 8 Long Term Support reaching end-of-life pr...@debian.org July 9th, 2020 https://www.debian.org/News/2020/20200709

Re: EOL Debian 8

2020-06-02 Thread Dan Ritter
Alejandro Guzman wrote: > Hola! Ustedes podr?an confirmar la fecha de final soporte de Debian 8? En su > wiki vemos distintas fechas. > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/ exists, and might be useful for you. This page: https://wiki.debian.org/es/DebianReleases has the d

Re: EOL Debian 8

2020-06-02 Thread Victor Padro
wrote: > Hola! Ustedes podrían confirmar la fecha de final soporte de Debian 8? En > su wiki vemos distintas fechas. > > > > Gracias! > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Guzmán Alejandro > > Tel.: (+5411) 4704-4075 > > > > Coordina

EOL Debian 8

2020-06-02 Thread Alejandro Guzman
Hola! Ustedes podrían confirmar la fecha de final soporte de Debian 8? En su wiki vemos distintas fechas. Gracias! -- Guzmán Alejandro Tel.: (+5411) 4704-4075 Coordinación de Infraestructura TI Dirección de Infraestructura y Desarrollo Educ.ar S.E. - http://www.educ.ar Ministerio de

general protection fault on vif50.1-q1-guest (Debian 8/Xen)

2020-05-15 Thread John Naggets
Hello, I had recently a general protection fault on a Debian 8 server with Xen (debian pacakge: 4.4.4lts4-0+deb8u1) on the vif50.1-q1-guest kernel proces. I have copied the kernel log below in this mail for reference. After this GPF the system was still responding but one domU lost network

Re: Debian 8

2020-01-02 Thread basti
Hello, this should do the job. http://archive.debian.org/README On 02.01.20 17:53, Hector Leon wrote: > Good Morning; > >   > > Is there a way to get a copy of Debian 8? Thank you ! > >   > >   > > Very Respectfully; > >   > > Hector M Leon > >   >

Re: Debian 8

2020-01-02 Thread Michael Howard
On 02/01/2020 16:53, Hector Leon wrote: Good Morning; Is there a way to get a copy of Debian 8? Thank you ! Very Respectfully; Hector M Leon http://archive.debian.org/ ? -- Michael Howard

Re: Debian 8

2020-01-02 Thread basti
Hello, this should do the job. http://archive.debian.org/README On 02.01.20 17:53, Hector Leon wrote: > Good Morning; > >   > > Is there a way to get a copy of Debian 8? Thank you ! > >   > >   > > Very Respectfully; > >   > > Hector M Leon > >   >

Re: Debian 8

2020-01-02 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Hector Leon, 02.01.20, 17:53 CET: > Is there a way to get a copy of Debian 8? Thank you ! http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/ -- Regards mks

Debian 8

2020-01-02 Thread Hector Leon
Good Morning; Is there a way to get a copy of Debian 8? Thank you ! Very Respectfully; Hector M Leon

Re: Debian 8 how to install and run init.d scripts?

2019-10-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 08:59:16AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 11:14:22PM +0200, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > > Not sure if on topic, but I what is needed to guess, it should run the > > scripts in order of their rcX/Snn number? I though the difficulty > > would be to use a

Re: Debian 8 how to install and run init.d scripts?

2019-10-25 Thread tomas
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 11:14:22PM +0200, Steffen Dettmer wrote: [...] > Not sure if on topic, but I what is needed to guess, it should run the > scripts in order of their rcX/Snn number? I though the difficulty > would be to use a suited nn number (and in fact, if my init.d script > would get st

Re: Debian 8 how to install and run init.d scripts?

2019-10-25 Thread Steffen Dettmer
lab-runner.service". > Yes, it was. I patched the gitlab-runner script to set DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_PACKAGE, and installed a gitlab-runner2 without that. > > funny that it does not even tell WHICH file was not found and why it was > > loaded anyway. > > Yeah, that'

Re: Debian 8 how to install and run init.d scripts?

2019-10-25 Thread Steffen Dettmer
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 9:32 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 09:26:57PM +0200, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 3:27 PM Greg Wooledge > wrote: > > > This is not correct. Debian's systemd will use init.d scripts in > > > compatibility mode. > > > > Ahh, this s

Re: Debian 8 how to install and run init.d scripts?

2019-10-21 Thread Peter Wiersig
systemd creates some "virtual unit" on the > fly, who knows. There is also a possible gitlab-runner@.service file to check, for the indeed rather magic stuff from systemd. Did you install gitlab as whole from packages or from source? Is the gitlab-runner version compatible to

Re: Debian 8 how to install and run init.d scripts?

2019-10-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 09:26:57PM +0200, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 3:27 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > This is not correct. Debian's systemd will use init.d scripts in > > compatibility mode. > > Ahh, this sounds good! But how to do that correctly? wooledg:~$ systemctl stat

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