Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-21 Thread Gareth Evans
> On 20 Apr 2024, at 16:49, David Christensen wrote: > > On 4/14/24 05:29, David Christensen wrote: >> debian-user: >> I have a Dell Latitude E6520: >> 2024-04-14 04:28:39 dpchrist@laalaa ~ >> $ cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a >> 11.9 >> Linux laalaa 5.10.0-28-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.209-

Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-20 Thread David Christensen
On 4/14/24 05:29, David Christensen wrote: debian-user: I have a Dell Latitude E6520: 2024-04-14 04:28:39 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a 11.9 Linux laalaa 5.10.0-28-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.209-2 (2024-01-31) x86_64 GNU/Linux 2024-04-14 04:34:40 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ dp

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-19 Thread David Christensen
On 4/19/24 00:16, Florent Rougon wrote: Another thing: did you look into ~/.xsession-errors? (Sorry if this was already mentioned and I missed it.) Please see attached copy of ~/.xsession-errors, taken immediately after system restart and login. "nm-applet" does not appear in .xsession-err

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-19 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, Le 18/04/2024, David Christensen a écrit: > 2024-04-18 02:27:18 root@laalaa ~ > # df `which nm-applet` > Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > /dev/mapper/sdb3_crypt12084M 8927M 2522M 78% / Not sure this command is super-useful: % df $(which awk) F

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/18/24 09:46, Gareth Evans wrote: On Thu 18/04/2024 at 11:05, David Christensen wrote: Move aside the ~/.config/xfce4 directory: ... Restart -- screen with wallpaper alone. ... Hi David, Starting from Mate DE only and some old (bookworm) XFCE config files, if I: $ sudo apt install task

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/18/24 07:28, Max Nikulin wrote: On 18/04/2024 17:05, David Christensen wrote: $ mv .config/xfce4-20240418-180045/ .config/xfce4 Restart -- back to Xfce panel with no Network Manager. Try to create a new system user and log in. Is nm-applet present? Logging in using another previously

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/18/24 05:34, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 4/18/24 05:27, David Christensen wrote: On 4/17/24 12:37, Richmond wrote: What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? maybe it doesn't have permission to execute, or the process which starts it doesn't have permission. 2024-04-18 02:24:20 root@la

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread Gareth Evans
On Thu 18/04/2024 at 11:05, David Christensen wrote: > Move aside the ~/.config/xfce4 directory: > ... > Restart -- screen with wallpaper alone. > ... Hi David, Starting from Mate DE only and some old (bookworm) XFCE config files, if I: $ sudo apt install task-xfce-desktop then log out and in

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/04/2024 17:05, David Christensen wrote: $ mv .config/xfce4-20240418-180045/ .config/xfce4 Restart -- back to Xfce panel with no Network Manager. Try to create a new system user and log in. Is nm-applet present?

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread eben
On 4/18/24 05:27, David Christensen wrote: On 4/17/24 12:37, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? maybe it doesn't have permission to execute, or the process which starts it doesn't have permission. 2024-04-18 02:24:20 root@laalaa ~ #

Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/17/24 12:07, Charles Curley wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:41:24 -0700 David Christensen wrote: My WAG is that nm-applet is failing to start, but I have been unable to find if and where any error message is reported. My instance of nm-applet does run, and I see this as part of the boot p

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/17/24 19:41, Gareth Evans wrote: On Wed 17/04/2024 at 19:41, David Christensen wrote: On 4/17/24 03:47, Gareth Evans wrote: On Wed 17/04/2024 at 09:18, David Christensen wrote: On 4/16/24 08:56, Gareth Evans wrote: On 16 Apr 2024, at 00:18, David Christensen wrote: On 4/15/24 09:21,

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/17/24 13:56, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 4/17/24 15:37, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: My WAG is that nm-applet is failing to start, but I have been unable to find if and where any error message is reported. What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? And is its filesystem m

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/17/24 12:37, Richmond wrote: David Christensen writes: On Sun 14/04/2024 at 13:29, David Christensen wrote: ... I have used the Xfce panel Network Manager applet for many years. Tonight, I noticed that it has disappeared (!). ... What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? maybe it

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-17 Thread Gareth Evans
On Wed 17/04/2024 at 19:41, David Christensen wrote: > Forwarded Message > Subject: Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:38:49 -0700 > From: David Christensen > To: Gareth Evans > > On 4/17/24 03:4

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-17 Thread eben
On 4/17/24 15:37, Richmond wrote:> David Christensen writes: > >> My WAG is that nm-applet is failing to start, but I have been unable to >> find if and where any error message is reported. > > What are the permissions on the nm-applet binary? And is its filesystem mounted with noexec? > maybe

Re: Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-17 Thread Richmond
David Christensen writes: > Forwarded Message > Subject: Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:38:49 -0700 > From: David Christensen > To: Gareth Evans > > On 4/17/24 03:47, Gareth Evans wrote: >&

Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-17 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:41:24 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > My WAG is that nm-applet is failing to start, but I have been unable > to find if and where any error message is reported. My instance of nm-applet does run, and I see this as part of the boot process: root@hawk:~# journalctl -b | gr

Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-17 Thread David Christensen
Forwarded Message Subject: Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 01:18:34 -0700 From: David Christensen To: Gareth Evans On 4/16/24 08:56, Gareth Evans wrote: On 16 Apr 2024, at 00:18, David Christensen wrote: On 4/15/24 09

Fwd: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-17 Thread David Christensen
Forwarded Message Subject: Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:38:49 -0700 From: David Christensen To: Gareth Evans On 4/17/24 03:47, Gareth Evans wrote: On Wed 17/04/2024 at 09:18, David Christensen wrote: On 4/16/24

Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-15 Thread David Christensen
On 4/15/24 09:21, Gareth Evans wrote: On Sun 14/04/2024 at 13:29, David Christensen wrote: ... I have used the Xfce panel Network Manager applet for many years. Tonight, I noticed that it has disappeared (!). ... Hi David, I can't speak for XFCE, but certainly for Mate there was a time when mu

Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-15 Thread Gareth Evans
On Sun 14/04/2024 at 13:29, David Christensen wrote: > debian-user: > > I have a Dell Latitude E6520: > > 2024-04-14 04:28:39 dpchrist@laalaa ~ > $ cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a > 11.9 > Linux laalaa 5.10.0-28-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.209-2 (2024-01-31) > x86_64 GNU/Linux > > 2024-04-14 04:3

Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

2024-04-14 Thread David Christensen
debian-user: I have a Dell Latitude E6520: 2024-04-14 04:28:39 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a 11.9 Linux laalaa 5.10.0-28-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.209-2 (2024-01-31) x86_64 GNU/Linux 2024-04-14 04:34:40 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ dpkg-query -l xfce4 network-manager network-ma

Re: Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-22 Thread arun
Many thanks Thomas - there is a write up by XAH LEE (can google it) he has a nice tutorial -- Regards Arun Khanna On 12/01/22 4:04 pm, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, A KHANNA wrote: How to activate mouse hover click in above system?..it is not having options available in ubuntu. It seems that a

Re: Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-13 Thread c. marlow
> > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 09:52:01AM -0600, c. marlow wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> I honestly don't see what people see in XFCE > > > > Uh, oh. This is asking for trouble ;) > > > >> To me, XFCE looks VERY DATED and out of the 90s. > > Funny, I say that, but I am using THUNAR as

Re: Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-12 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 02:08:20AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 13.01.2022 01:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > Now, now, there. There are people who like that (not me), so leave them > > their mileage too. > I'm not against the feature itself, but against the fact that it is not

Re: Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-12 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 13.01.2022 02:12, Dan Ritter wrote: apt install libgtk3-nocsd0 From the description: Library to disable Gtk+ 3 client side decorations (CSD) libgtk3-nocsd is a small LD_PRELOADable library used to disable the client side decorations (CSD) of Gtk+ 3. I use it. -dsr- Thanks. I've tri

Re: Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 13.01.2022 01:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 12:46:20AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > > > > Although consistency gets ruined by forced garbage features from GTK3 like > > > Client-Side Decorations (custom title bar). > > > Who

Re: Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-12 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 13.01.2022 01:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 12:46:20AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: [...] Although consistency gets ruined by forced garbage features from GTK3 like Client-Side Decorations (custom title bar). Who thought that moving dialog window buttons (Ok, C

Re: Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-12 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 12:46:20AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: [...] > Although consistency gets ruined by forced garbage features from GTK3 like > Client-Side Decorations (custom title bar). > Who thought that moving dialog window buttons (Ok, Cancel, Save, etc) from > usual bottom side

Re: Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-12 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 12.01.2022 20:52, c. marlow wrote: I honestly don't see what people see in XFCE To me, XFCE looks VERY DATED and out of the 90s. If it looks dated just change the theme lol. Xfce is lightweight, efficient and fast even on legacy hardware. Xfce is reliable, rich with features and not bloated

Re: Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-12 Thread Ken Cunningham
> On Jan 12, 2022, at 9:58 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 09:52:01AM -0600, c. marlow wrote: > > [...] > >> I honestly don't see what people see in XFCE > > Uh, oh. This is asking for trouble ;) > >> To me, XFCE looks VERY DATED and out of the 90s. > > perhaps... >

Re: Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-12 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 09:52:01AM -0600, c. marlow wrote: [...] > I honestly don't see what people see in XFCE Uh, oh. This is asking for trouble ;) > To me, XFCE looks VERY DATED and out of the 90s. perhaps... > YMMV, I guess. That's *exactly* the point. Mileage varies wildly, especially

Re: Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-12 Thread Alexis Grigoriou
On Wed, 2022-01-12 at 11:27 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > c. marlow wrote: > > I honestly don't see what people see in XFCE > > > > To me, XFCE looks VERY DATED and out of the 90s. > > It works; it rarely breaks after a version upgrade; and it is > configurable. > > That's three advantages over G

Re: Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 09:52:01AM -0600, c. marlow wrote: > I honestly don't see what people see in XFCE > > To me, XFCE looks VERY DATED and out of the 90s. You say that like it's a bad thing. For many people, a user interface that keeps changing every few years is incredibly annoying. There

Re: Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-12 Thread Dan Ritter
c. marlow wrote: > > I honestly don't see what people see in XFCE > > To me, XFCE looks VERY DATED and out of the 90s. It works; it rarely breaks after a version upgrade; and it is configurable. That's three advantages over GNOME. -dsr-

Re: Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-12 Thread c. marlow
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 10:43:00 -0500 Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 1/12/22, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > A KHANNA wrote: > >> How to activate mouse hover click in above system?..it is not > >> having options > >> available in ubuntu. > > > > It seems that a program named "mousetweaks"

Re: Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-12 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 1/12/22, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > A KHANNA wrote: >> How to activate mouse hover click in above system?..it is not having >> options >> available in ubuntu. > > It seems that a program named "mousetweaks" is in charge for this. > I understand that its option --dwell is what you are looki

Re: Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, A KHANNA wrote: > How to activate mouse hover click in above system?..it is not having options > available in ubuntu. It seems that a program named "mousetweaks" is in charge for this. I understand that its option --dwell is what you are looking for. My impression comes from Google results w

Debian 11 xfce

2022-01-12 Thread A KHANNA
Hi I have a query that I would appreciate if you can help out as I am new to Linux How to activate mouse hover click in above system?..it is not having options available in ubuntu. Many thanks Regards A Khanna

Re: Debian 11 Xfce - Applications -> Settings -> Network Connections missing

2021-08-09 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 9 Aug 2021 17:10:52 +0200 (CEST) Roger Price wrote: > I'm trying to set up a Wi-Fi connection in Debian 11 with Xfce. In > previous Debian Xfce installations I found Applications -> Settings > -> Network Connections which offered a useful GUI. I'm on Debian 10 (Buster) and 11 (Bullseye)

Re: Debian 11 Xfce - Applications -> Settings -> Network Connections missing

2021-08-09 Thread ghe2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, August 9, 2021 9:46 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 9 Aug 2021 17:10:52 +0200 (CEST) > Roger Price deb...@rogerprice.org wrote: > > > I can't find the Netwok Connections GUI > > in Debian 11. Is th

Re: Debian 11 Xfce - Applications -> Settings -> Network Connections missing

2021-08-09 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 9 Aug 2021 17:10:52 +0200 (CEST) Roger Price wrote: > I can't find the Netwok Connections GUI > in Debian 11. Is there some additional package I need to install? Is the NetworkManager GUI for GTK installed? apt install network-manager-gnome network-manager -- Does anybody read signa

Re: Debian 11 Xfce - Applications -> Settings -> Network Connections missing

2021-08-09 Thread Roger Price
On Mon, 9 Aug 2021, Roger Price wrote: I'm trying to set up a Wi-Fi connection in Debian 11 with Xfce. In previous Debian Xfce installations I found Applications -> Settings -> Network Connections which offered a useful GUI. I can't find the Netwok Connections GUI in Debian 11. To answer p

Debian 11 Xfce - Applications -> Settings -> Network Connections missing

2021-08-09 Thread Roger Price
I'm trying to set up a Wi-Fi connection in Debian 11 with Xfce. In previous Debian Xfce installations I found Applications -> Settings -> Network Connections which offered a useful GUI. I can't find the Netwok Connections GUI in Debian 11. Is there some additional package I need to install?