Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-07 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 07 May 2018 21:54:48 +0200 deloptes wrote: Hello deloptes, >years it dropped, because of this. USA and UK started first, so it must >be more than 10y there ... or they do not produce anything at all - Here in the UK, almost as long as I can remember. It even applies to meat; "British"

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-07 Thread deloptes
Brad Rogers wrote: > Hardly unique;  USA, UK, etc, etc. (ad nauseam) do the same thing. well Germany was delivering always a good quality, but in the past couple of years it dropped, because of this. USA and UK started first, so it must be more than 10y there ... or they do not produce anything a

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-07 Thread Curt
On 2018-05-07, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 5/6/18, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Sunday, May 06, 2018 04:57:13 PM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >>> On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 09:19:24PM +0200, Hans wrote: >>> >>> [...] >>> >>> > Check also the elkos, if they are blown thick, they are also a problem. >>

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-07 Thread Mike McClain
On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 02:36:50PM -0400, Thomas George wrote: > Box is between two tables but managed to remove side cover and with > mirror confirmed green light on motherboard. Unplugged power cord, > green light goes out, reconnected power, green light on and power > switch works, BIOS message

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-07 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 07 May 2018 08:14:05 +0200 deloptes wrote: Hello deloptes, >1/3 or 2/3 of it is made in Germany. So that's why it works so well - >they produce in China, package or add some few parts in Germany and >voilla - they sell it as made in Germany. Hardly unique; USA, UK, etc, etc. (ad nausea

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-06 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > FWIW, its been 55 of those years since I last saw a Telefunken radio so I > have no clue what safety pressure release mechanism is used by the > German speakers electrolytics today, but on our side of the small pond > that laps at out right coast, the cans are scored on top s

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 06 May 2018 23:10:54 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 5/6/18, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sunday, May 06, 2018 04:57:13 PM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 09:19:24PM +0200, Hans wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> > Check also the elkos, if they are blown thick, they

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-06 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 5/6/18, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, May 06, 2018 04:57:13 PM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 09:19:24PM +0200, Hans wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> > Check also the elkos, if they are blown thick, they are also a problem. >> >> ^ electrolytic capacito

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-06 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, May 06, 2018 04:57:13 PM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 09:19:24PM +0200, Hans wrote: > > [...] > > > Check also the elkos, if they are blown thick, they are also a problem. > > ^ electrolytic capacitors, for you non-German speakers > :) Thank

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-06 Thread Thomas George
I remember changing the cmos battery some years ago. Maybe time to do it again. No storms preceding, during and after the described failure. Ups shuts down system after 30 seconds if there is a power failure. On 05/06/2018 05:02 PM, songbird wrote: Thomas George wrote: ... Box is between t

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown.

2018-05-06 Thread songbird
Thomas George wrote: > Selected shutdown from the window manager and the operating system > turned off the computer as usual. Tried to restart the computer from the > switch on the desktop box but it was totally dead. try holding the power button down for a while and see if that restarts it.

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-06 Thread songbird
Thomas George wrote: ... > Box is between two tables but managed to remove side cover and with > mirror confirmed green light on motherboard. Unplugged power cord, green > light goes out, reconnected power, green light on and power switch > works, BIOS message Asus surge protection shut system d

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-06 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 09:19:24PM +0200, Hans wrote: [...] > Check also the elkos, if they are blown thick, they are also a problem. ^ electrolytic capacitors, for you non-German speakers :) - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-06 Thread Matthew Crews
Concur with this statement. Anything older than 7 years is on borrowed time for consumer-grade hardware. Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com), Swiss-based encrypted email. Original Message On May 6, 2018, 12:44, Dan Purgert wrote: > Thomas George wrote: >> [...] >> M

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-06 Thread Felix Miata
Thomas George composed on 2018-05-06 14:36 (UTC-0400): > Box is between two tables but managed to remove side cover and with > mirror confirmed green light on motherboard. Unplugged power cord, green > light goes out, reconnected power, green light on and power switch > works, BIOS message Asus

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-06 Thread Dan Purgert
Thomas George wrote: > [...] > My records show I assembled this box from components in 2008. Should I > be worried? Expected lifetimes of cpu, mb, power supply? > 10 years is a good long time. Most bits you can figure 7-10 years on average. -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Gith

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-06 Thread Hans
Am Sonntag, 6. Mai 2018, 20:36:50 CEST schrieb Thomas George: Check the BIOS-Battery. It might be low of voltage and might thus have interferes with the bios, so that the "start" command was not correctly seen. Check also the elkos, if they are blown thick, they are also a problem. If there is s

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-06 Thread Thomas George
Box is between two tables but managed to remove side cover and with mirror confirmed green light on motherboard. Unplugged power cord, green light goes out, reconnected power, green light on and power switch works, BIOS message Asus surge protection shut system down because of unstable power su

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown.

2018-05-06 Thread Felix Miata
Thomas George composed on 2018-05-06 12:14 (UTC-0400): > Selected shutdown from the window manager and the operating system > turned off the computer as usual. Tried to restart the computer from the > switch on the desktop box but it was totally dead. > Where to look for the failure? CPU, mothe

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown.

2018-05-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Thomas George wrote: > Tried to restart the computer from the switch on the desktop box but > it was totally dead. [...] > Where to look for the failure? CPU, motherboard, power supply or mechanical > switch? If it does not make any noise and lets not shine any light then the power supply is

Dead computer after system shutdown.

2018-05-06 Thread Thomas George
Selected shutdown from the window manager and the operating system turned off the computer as usual. Tried to restart the computer from the switch on the desktop box but it was totally dead. Where to look for the failure? CPU, motherboard, power supply or mechanical switch? I never thought b