John Hasler writes:
> lee wrote:
>> Mike McGinn writes:
>> As in any sane system of governance for this type of organization, the
>> ones doing the work get to make the decisions.
>
> lee wrote:
>> Then please modify Debians' social contract where it says that the users
>> are the priority.
>
> I
Nate Bargmann writes:
> * On 2014 21 Sep 15:10 -0500, lee wrote:
>> Mike McGinn writes:
>>
>> > As in any sane system of governance for this type of organization, the
>> > ones doing the work get to make the decisions.
>>
>> Then please modify Debians' social contract where it says that the us
lee wrote:
> Mike McGinn writes:
> As in any sane system of governance for this type of organization, the
> ones doing the work get to make the decisions.
lee wrote:
> Then please modify Debians' social contract where it says that the users
> are the priority.
It says users are the priority. It
* On 2014 21 Sep 15:10 -0500, lee wrote:
> Mike McGinn writes:
>
> > As in any sane system of governance for this type of organization, the
> > ones doing the work get to make the decisions.
>
> Then please modify Debians' social contract where it says that the users
> are the priority.
I fear
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 06:11:53PM +0200, lee wrote:
> Joel Roth writes:
>
> > I think it should be possible to find or create a forum for
> > those who are concerned about this issue. I know that
> > I would subscribe.
>
> That would make it easier to ignore them. Wouldn't it make more sense
Mike McGinn writes:
> As in any sane system of governance for this type of organization, the
> ones doing the work get to make the decisions.
Then please modify Debians' social contract where it says that the users
are the priority.
Should I make a bug report for this?
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Joel Roth writes:
> I think it should be possible to find or create a forum for
> those who are concerned about this issue. I know that
> I would subscribe.
That would make it easier to ignore them. Wouldn't it make more sense
to create a list for people interested in alternatives to systemd?
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:02:48PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 9/17/2014 10:48 AM, Slavko wrote:
> > Dňa Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:40:40 +0200 B napísal:
> >>
> >>> If yes,
> >>> then "something is rotten in the state of Denmark" ...
> >>
> >> Alas, poor Slavko ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I am sorr
On 14Sep18:1301-0400, David L. Craig wrote:
> Ironically, I have been recovering
> from some strange Sid upgrade issues involving systemd for
> past half day--I'm still uncertain what went south, but I
> seem to be back with /sbin/init for now. Unfortunately,
> Sid seems to break my toys at the w
On 14Sep18:1449+0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 08:06:21AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> > David L. Craig writes:
> > > Is this viewpoint typical of DDs?
> >
> > No, but the attitude is, unfortunately, quite common.
>
> The grandparent poster isn't a DD.
That is good to le
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 08:06:21AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> David L. Craig writes:
> > Is this viewpoint typical of DDs?
>
> No, but the attitude is, unfortunately, quite common.
The grandparent poster isn't a DD.
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 09:15:57 -0400
The Wanderer wrote:
[SNIP LOT OF REASONABLE THINGS (from The Wanderer)]
I would add one thing to what you said, may be rants are filtered
by devs (but that I doubt, intelligent people usually keep the
temperature of their projects, even if the thermometer is gr
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On 09/18/2014 at 12:36 AM, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
> On 17/09/14 at 09:17am, John Hasler wrote:
>
>> Mart van de Wege writes:
>>> That's funny, because I keep seeing the same names coming up.
>>
>> And I see the same names coming up in the anti an
David L. Craig writes:
> Is this viewpoint typical of DDs?
No, but the attitude is, unfortunately, quite common.
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On 18/09/14 at 03:34am, David L. Craig wrote:
> On 14Sep18:0636+0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
>
> > Delete key works perfectly and fast here BTW, none of the posters
> > (spammers)
> > is a debian developer and AFAIK it's not going to be.
> >
> > That given, can someone explain what's the use i
On Thursday 18 September 2014 08:34:49 David L. Craig wrote:
> You just dissed Linus Tolvalds
> among many, many others
Where and when??
Lisi
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On 14Sep18:0636+0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
> Delete key works perfectly and fast here BTW, none of the posters (spammers)
> is a debian developer and AFAIK it's not going to be.
>
> That given, can someone explain what's the use in those debates in which your
> decision
> making power it's l
On 17/09/14 at 09:17am, John Hasler wrote:
> Mart van de Wege writes:
> > That's funny, because I keep seeing the same names coming up.
>
> And I see the same names coming up in the anti anti systemd rant rants.
>
> Quit ranting, ok? If you don't actually have anything to say don't say
> it. If
John Hasler writes:
> Mart van de Wege writes:
>> That's funny, because I keep seeing the same names coming up.
>
> And I see the same names coming up in the anti anti systemd rant rants.
>
> Quit ranting, ok? If you don't actually have anything to say don't say
> it. If you do, say it and igno
FREELOADERS!
Am 17.09.2014 um 19:14 schrieb Slavko:
Ahoj,
Dňa Wed, 17 Sep 2014 17:38:46 +0200 B napísal:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 16:48:39 +0200
Slavko wrote:
Alas, poor Slavko ;-)
I am sorry, i don't understand your reply (my poor English).
Oh, sorry.
I was referring to a line from S
Ahoj,
Dňa Wed, 17 Sep 2014 17:38:46 +0200 B napísal:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 16:48:39 +0200
> Slavko wrote:
>
> > > Alas, poor Slavko ;-)
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I am sorry, i don't understand your reply (my poor English).
>
> Oh, sorry.
>
> I was referring to a line from Shakespeare into H
On 9/17/2014 10:48 AM, Slavko wrote:
> Ahoj,
>
> Dňa Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:40:40 +0200 B napísal:
>
>> On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:17:19 +0200
>> Slavko wrote:
>>
>>> If yes,
>>> then "something is rotten in the state of Denmark" ...
>>
>> Alas, poor Slavko ;-)
>>
>>
>
> I am sorry, i don't unde
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 16:48:39 +0200
Slavko wrote:
> > Alas, poor Slavko ;-)
> >
> >
>
> I am sorry, i don't understand your reply (my poor English).
Oh, sorry.
I was referring to a line from Shakespeare into Hamlet
(when he grabs a skull and talk to him: 'alas, poor Yorick…')
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On Wednesday 17 September 2014 15:48:39 Slavko wrote:
> Ahoj,
>
> Dňa Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:40:40 +0200 B napísal:
> > On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:17:19 +0200
> >
> > Slavko wrote:
> > > If yes,
> > > then "something is rotten in the state of Denmark" ...
> >
> > Alas, poor Slavko ;-)
>
> I am sorr
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On 09/17/2014 at 10:17 AM, John Hasler wrote:
> Mart van de Wege writes:
>
>> That's funny, because I keep seeing the same names coming up.
>
> And I see the same names coming up in the anti anti systemd rant
> rants.
>
> Quit ranting, ok? If y
Ahoj,
Dňa Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:40:40 +0200 B napísal:
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:17:19 +0200
> Slavko wrote:
>
> > If yes,
> > then "something is rotten in the state of Denmark" ...
>
> Alas, poor Slavko ;-)
>
>
I am sorry, i don't understand your reply (my poor English).
regards
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Mart van de Wege writes:
> That's funny, because I keep seeing the same names coming up.
And I see the same names coming up in the anti anti systemd rant rants.
Quit ranting, ok? If you don't actually have anything to say don't say
it. If you do, say it and ignore the ranters.
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Steve Litt writes:
>
> Like I said to Lisi, every time you shush one of us, three more pop up.
That's funny, because I keep seeing the same names coming up. Enough
that I am considering downscoring 2 or 3 users and all replies to them,
regardless of subject, because it would kill 90% of the same
Mike McGinn wrote:
On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:17:19 Slavko wrote:
Ahoj,
Dňa Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:24:07 -0400 Steve Litt
napísal:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:15:59 -0700
Don Armstrong wrote:
Yes, please. The pro/anti systemd discussion isn't on topic for this
mailing list.
Precisely. Bug
On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:17:19 Slavko wrote:
> Ahoj,
>
> Dňa Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:24:07 -0400 Steve Litt
>
> napísal:
> > On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:15:59 -0700
> >
> > Don Armstrong wrote:
> > > Yes, please. The pro/anti systemd discussion isn't on topic for this
> > > mailing list.
> >
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:17:19 +0200
Slavko wrote:
> If yes,
> then "something is rotten in the state of Denmark" ...
Alas, poor Slavko ;-)
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Ahoj,
Dňa Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:24:07 -0400 Steve Litt
napísal:
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:15:59 -0700
> Don Armstrong wrote:
>
>
> > Yes, please. The pro/anti systemd discussion isn't on topic for this
> > mailing list.
>
> Precisely. Bugs and user difficulties produced by innumerable
> depende
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 08:24:07PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:15:59 -0700
> Don Armstrong wrote:
>
>
> > Yes, please. The pro/anti systemd discussion isn't on topic for this
> > mailing list.
>
> Precisely. Bugs and user difficulties produced by innumerable
> dependencies
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 08:24:07PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Precisely. Bugs and user difficulties produced by innumerable
dependencies have nothing to do with Debian-Users, it's merely an
interesting discussion for developers.
ISTM that such threads - with people who are
2014/09/16 16:57 "Bret Busby" :
>
> On 16/09/2014, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > « Nunc est bibendum, nunc pede libero pulsanda tellus »
>
> Eh, wot?
>
> I think that tellus is a brand of vacuum cleaner (is this something to
> do with cleaning some threads of messages off the list :) ? ).
>
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 08:24:07PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> Precisely. Bugs and user difficulties produced by innumerable
> dependencies have nothing to do with Debian-Users, it's merely an
> interesting discussion for developers.
ISTM that such threads - with people who are actually using syste
On 16/09/14 at 03:39pm, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 16/09/2014, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > « Nunc est bibendum, nunc pede libero pulsanda tellus »
>
> Eh, wot?
>
> I think that tellus is a brand of vacuum cleaner (is this something to
> do with cleaning some threads of messages off the l
On 16/09/2014, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
> « Nunc est bibendum, nunc pede libero pulsanda tellus »
Eh, wot?
I think that tellus is a brand of vacuum cleaner (is this something to
do with cleaning some threads of messages off the list :) ? ).
pede - well that sounds like a root of pedestrian.
On 15/09/14 at 02:15pm, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Sep 2014, Joel Roth wrote:
> > I think it should be possible to find or create a forum for those who
> > are concerned about this issue. I know that I would subscribe.
>
> Please create one and subscribe. It's trivial to create mailing list
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:15:59 -0700
Don Armstrong wrote:
> Yes, please. The pro/anti systemd discussion isn't on topic for this
> mailing list.
Precisely. Bugs and user difficulties produced by innumerable
dependencies have nothing to do with Debian-Users, it's merely an
interesting discussion f
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014, Joel Roth wrote:
> I think it should be possible to find or create a forum for those who
> are concerned about this issue. I know that I would subscribe.
Please create one and subscribe. It's trivial to create mailing lists on
lists.alioth.debian.org, or you can use non-Debian
gvfs))
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 9/15/2014 3:27 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Sunday 14 September 2014 19:42:40 Steve Litt wrote:
> >> Every time you tell one of us to keep silent, three more of us speak
> >> up. I don't know whethe
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