Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.

2006-02-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 03:03:18PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 05:42:30AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 06:55:39PM +, Adam Funk wrote: > > > It gives the information -- but not in a dumbed-down enough format for > > > me. For example, nowhe

Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.

2006-02-25 Thread dan-martins
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 05:42:30AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 06:55:39PM +, Adam Funk wrote: > > It gives the information -- but not in a dumbed-down enough format for > > me. For example, nowhere on that page is the word "Xeon" mentioned, > > so if I bought a Xeon com

Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.

2006-02-25 Thread Adam Funk
On 2006-02-17, Graham Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You have a wide range of choices. You can go pure 32 bit and install the > standard i386 Debian, you can go mixed and have a 64 bit kernel an 32 bit > user space or you can go pure 64 bit. I've never tried a mixed system but > apparently

Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.

2006-02-25 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:20:59 + Adam Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2006-02-23, Justin Guerin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> It gives the information -- but not in a dumbed-down enough format for > >> me. For example, nowhere on that page is the word "Xeon" mentioned, > >> so if I bo

Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.

2006-02-24 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 06:55:39PM +, Adam Funk wrote: > It gives the information -- but not in a dumbed-down enough format for > me. For example, nowhere on that page is the word "Xeon" mentioned, > so if I bought a Xeon computer, for example, I wouldn't know from that > page alone to install

Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.

2006-02-23 Thread Adam Funk
On 2006-02-23, Justin Guerin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It gives the information -- but not in a dumbed-down enough format for >> me. For example, nowhere on that page is the word "Xeon" mentioned, >> so if I bought a Xeon computer, for example, I wouldn't know from that >> page alone to insta

Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.

2006-02-23 Thread Justin Guerin
On Thursday 23 February 2006 11:55, Adam Funk wrote: > On 2006-02-23, Justin Guerin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Is there a table anywhere that lists processors by their common names > >> and tells which kernels will work on which ones? > > > > I hope the list on http://www.debian.org/ports/ giv

Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.

2006-02-23 Thread Adam Funk
On 2006-02-23, Justin Guerin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Is there a table anywhere that lists processors by their common names >> and tells which kernels will work on which ones? > I hope the list on http://www.debian.org/ports/ gives you the information > you seek. If not, what is missing?

Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.

2006-02-23 Thread Justin Guerin
On Monday 20 February 2006 03:10, Adam Funk wrote: > On 2006-02-17, Graham Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > Is there a table anywhere that lists processors by their common names > and tells which kernels will work on which ones? > > Thanks, > Adam I hope the list on http://www.debian.or

Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.

2006-02-20 Thread Paolo Alexis Falcone
On 2/20/06, Adam Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2006-02-17, Graham Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes. The Althon 64 fully supports i386 through some fancy on chip emulation > > that is as fast as a native 32 bit chip (I think all the 64 bit processors > > you mention do this but don'

Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.

2006-02-20 Thread Adam Funk
On 2006-02-17, Graham Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes. The Althon 64 fully supports i386 through some fancy on chip emulation > that is as fast as a native 32 bit chip (I think all the 64 bit processors > you mention do this but don't quite me on that). So I could do that by booting a no

Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.

2006-02-17 Thread Kelly Clowers
On 2/17/06, Graham Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 17 February 2006 14:42, Adam Funk wrote:> On 2006-02-17, Graham Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Having said that there is not really any advantage to running the 64 bit > > port as there isn't any software that makes use of the extra

Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.

2006-02-17 Thread Graham Smith
On Friday 17 February 2006 14:42, Adam Funk wrote: > On 2006-02-17, Graham Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Having said that there is not really any advantage to running the 64 bit > > port as there isn't any software that makes use of the extra features and > > the Althon 64 in 32 bit mode is

Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.

2006-02-17 Thread Adam Funk
On 2006-02-17, Graham Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having said that there is not really any advantage to running the 64 bit port > as there isn't any software that makes use of the extra features and the > Althon 64 in 32 bit mode is just as fast. Does that mean I can just install Debian

Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.

2006-02-17 Thread Thomas Jollans
On Friday 17 February 2006 11:02, Adam Funk wrote: > I'm planning to buy a new home computer soon and am considering Xeon, > Athlon 64 and Opteron 64, but I'm not sure about the relevant Debian > architectures, ia64 and amd64. Which one applies to which of those > processors? > > I'm also concerne

Re: Confused about 64-bit architectures.

2006-02-17 Thread Graham Smith
On Friday 17 February 2006 10:02, Adam Funk wrote: > I'm planning to buy a new home computer soon and am considering Xeon, > Athlon 64 and Opteron 64, but I'm not sure about the relevant Debian > architectures, ia64 and amd64. Which one applies to which of those > processors? > > I'm also concerne

Confused about 64-bit architectures.

2006-02-17 Thread Adam Funk
I'm planning to buy a new home computer soon and am considering Xeon, Athlon 64 and Opteron 64, but I'm not sure about the relevant Debian architectures, ia64 and amd64. Which one applies to which of those processors? I'm also concerned about the potential shortage of 64-bit software for a genera