Re: Clarification concerning security of testing on a laptop

2005-01-05 Thread Shot (Piotr Szotkowski)
Hello. rich: > What I don't understand is why it is so horrendously insecure to run > testing - as I understand it when a vulnerability is found, a new > version of the program is normally released which fixes the problem. AFAIK, the catch is that the Debian Security Team is maintaining stable -

Re: Clarification concerning security of testing on a laptop

2005-01-05 Thread Adam Funk
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 23:30, Kent West wrote: > My personal opinion? Skip Testing and go straight to Sid. You have > more chance of breakage (although it's been very rare in my experience > (about 3 years now)), but said breakage also tends to get fixed within > hours instead of 10 days. Same

RE: Clarification concerning security of testing on a laptop

2005-01-05 Thread Rich Stanton
: J.F.Gratton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 05 January 2005 02:59 > To: Peter Nuttall > Cc: Debian-User > Subject: Re: Clarification concerning security of testing on a laptop > > > > I just gave the first example that came to my mind, there are others, > I'm su

Re: Clarification concerning security of testing on a laptop

2005-01-04 Thread J.F.Gratton
I just gave the first example that came to my mind, there are others, I'm sure. I know that from time to time it did frustrate me to see software I knew to be released, but not being available yet with apt. Concerning the specifics as to why Gnome 2.8 was or was not there fast enough... Do not

Re: Clarification concerning security of testing on a laptop

2005-01-04 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Wednesday 05 Jan 2005 00:32, J.F.Gratton wrote: > > One thing I still don't like about Debian is the time it takes to get > new versions of major packages, even on "unstable" or "testing" (think: > Gnome 2.8). The other side of that coin is that the package maintainers > DO keep their eyes on t

Re: Clarification concerning security of testing on a laptop

2005-01-04 Thread p
> On Tuesday 04 January 2005 06:26 pm, Kent West wrote: > > > My personal opinion? Skip Testing and go straight to Sid. __deletia__ > > You also get newer toys to play with. > On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 07:26:31PM -0500, Brian Pack wrote: > I like toys. :) > __deletia__ // ...same here. i

Re: Clarification concerning security of testing on a laptop

2005-01-04 Thread Brian Pack
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 07:32 pm, J.F.Gratton wrote: > My 2 cents on this: I've been using unstable branches/testing for the > last couple of years now, and only once did I see broken packages that > stuck me there badly (you know, some combination of libc+perl+dpkg, or > something that lethal).

Re: Clarification concerning security of testing on a laptop

2005-01-04 Thread J.F.Gratton
My 2 cents on this: I've been using unstable branches/testing for the last couple of years now, and only once did I see broken packages that stuck me there badly (you know, some combination of libc+perl+dpkg, or something that lethal). Even then, with some fancy pussyfooting I managed to repair eve

Re: Clarification concerning security of testing on a laptop

2005-01-04 Thread Brian Pack
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 06:26 pm, Kent West wrote: > My personal opinion? Skip Testing and go straight to Sid. You have more > chance of breakage (although it's been very rare in my experience (about > 3 years now)), but said breakage also tends to get fixed within hours > instead of 10 days. S

Re: Clarification concerning security of testing on a laptop

2005-01-04 Thread Steve Lamb
Kent West wrote: My personal opinion? Skip Testing and go straight to Sid. You have more chance of breakage (although it's been very rare in my experience (about 3 years now)), but said breakage also tends to get fixed within hours instead of 10 days. Same for vulnerabilities. Or a nice alte

Re: Clarification concerning security of testing on a laptop

2005-01-04 Thread Kent West
rich wrote: First up, I'm running testing on my laptop & want some clarification regarding how secure this is. I know it is not monitored in any way for security problems & as such security problems are not fixed on it - however stable is no good to me since my laptop won't boot any 2.4 kernels, a

Clarification concerning security of testing on a laptop

2005-01-04 Thread rich
Hi, I know these type of questions are asked a lot but there's a couple of things I don't get & I haven't been able to find an answer using google or searching the message archives. First up, I'm running testing on my laptop & want some clarification regarding how secure this is. I know it is no