Re: Canonical Way to install Java

2002-06-28 Thread Steve Juranich
> As for your original question, jdk 1.1 is obsolete and buggy (well, > at least the bugs and other limitations are fairly well-known by now). > jdk 1.3 is fairly current, and the Blackdown folks provide > apt-gettable packages. If you want 1.4, Sun is (currently) the sole > provider. Oh, yeah, t

Re: Canonical Way to install Java

2002-06-27 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 12:03:21PM +0930, Tom Cook wrote: (lots o' snippage) | You are not free to do what you will with it, so it is | not free software. Capitlize the Free :-). | Generally speaking, a restriction on the modification of source | kills something in Debian, Agreed. | since (I u

Re: Canonical Way to install Java

2002-06-27 Thread Tom Cook
On 0, Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tom Cook wrote: > > > On 0, Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > The Java you get from Sun will require you to have the version of the C > > > runtime library that it was compiled for, which is older than what Woody > > > or Sid use

Re: Canonical Way to install Java

2002-06-27 Thread Craig Dickson
Tom Cook wrote: > On 0, Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The Java you get from Sun will require you to have the version of the C > > runtime library that it was compiled for, which is older than what Woody > > or Sid use at this point. (I don't recall offhand what libc Potato > > us

Re: Canonical Way to install Java

2002-06-27 Thread Tom Cook
On 0, Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 28-06-2002 01:47 Kent West wrote: > >Thanks for everyone's input. I think I'll go the Sun route. Anyone > >have any idea why Sid's isn't up-to-date? Is it a "freedom" issue? If > >so, does Sun not realize they are hurting the spread of Java by not >

Re: Canonical Way to install Java

2002-06-27 Thread Tom Cook
On 0, Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kent West wrote: > > > I can get Java installed and working in my browsers, but at the risk of > > starting a Holy Way, what's the canonical way to install Java (run-time > > only needed, not dev. kit)? >

Re: Canonical Way to install Java

2002-06-27 Thread Hubert Chan
> "Derrick" == Derrick 'dman' Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Derrick> Does Sun realize that they're hurting Java/Solaris by requiring Derrick> an X server on any (headless) server doing server-side Derrick> graphics? Apparently JDK 1.4 doesn't require an X server. Just add "-Djava

Re: Canonical Way to install Java

2002-06-27 Thread Oki DZ
On 28-06-2002 01:47 Kent West wrote: Thanks for everyone's input. I think I'll go the Sun route. Anyone have any idea why Sid's isn't up-to-date? Is it a "freedom" issue? If so, does Sun not realize they are hurting the spread of Java by not making it truly free? In what way? The SDK is freel

Re: Canonical Way to install Java

2002-06-27 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 01:47:38PM -0500, Kent West wrote: | >"Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | >>at the risk of starting a Holy Way, | | Do'h! Six or seven postings later, I notice the misspelling. It's | supposed to be "Holy War", as I'm sure everyone realized. :-0 Some of those who

Re: Canonical Way to install Java

2002-06-27 Thread Craig Dickson
Kent West wrote: > Thanks for everyone's input. I think I'll go the Sun route. Anyone have > any idea why Sid's isn't up-to-date? Is it a "freedom" issue? If so, > does Sun not realize they are hurting the spread of Java by not making > it truly free? Sun doesn't care about Java as such; they

Re: Canonical Way to install Java

2002-06-27 Thread Kent West
"Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: at the risk of starting a Holy Way, Do'h! Six or seven postings later, I notice the misspelling. It's supposed to be "Holy War", as I'm sure everyone realized. :-0 Thanks for everyone's input. I think I'll go the Sun route. Anyone have any idea w

Re: Canonical Way to install Java

2002-06-27 Thread Gary Hennigan
"Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I can get Java installed and working in my browsers, but at the risk > of starting a Holy Way, what's the canonical way to install Java > (run-time only needed, not dev. kit)? > > From Blackdown? From Sun? From Debia

Re: Canonical Way to install Java

2002-06-27 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 12:03, Craig Dickson wrote: > The Java you get from Sun will require you to have the version of the C > runtime library that it was compiled for, which is older than what Woody > or Sid use at this point. (I don't recall offhand what libc Potato > uses.) It's available in the

Re: Canonical Way to install Java

2002-06-27 Thread Kent West
Craig Dickson wrote: Kent West wrote: at the risk of starting a Holy Way, what's the canonical way to install Java (run-time only needed, not dev. kit)? I wouldn't bother with Java 1.1 at this point. The Java you get from Sun will require you to have the version of the

Re: Canonical Way to install Java

2002-06-27 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 11:41:57 -0500 "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can get Java installed and working in my browsers, but at the risk of > starting a Holy Way, what's the canonical way to install Java (run-time > only needed, not dev. kit)? >

Re: Canonical Way to install Java

2002-06-27 Thread Craig Dickson
Kent West wrote: > I can get Java installed and working in my browsers, but at the risk of > starting a Holy Way, what's the canonical way to install Java (run-time > only needed, not dev. kit)? > > From Blackdown? From Sun? From Debian's site, which seems to on

Canonical Way to install Java

2002-06-27 Thread Kent West
I can get Java installed and working in my browsers, but at the risk of starting a Holy Way, what's the canonical way to install Java (run-time only needed, not dev. kit)? From Blackdown? From Sun? From Debian's site, which seems to only have JDK1.1 for Sid? I would suspect that