Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-07 Thread Hans Wilmer
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 01:48:00PM -0800, nate wrote: > > result in plain text authentication, which is not exactly > > secure. > > use IMAPS then.(IMAP over ssl). sslwrap can provide this functionality > to any IMAP server. I personally prefer plain text auth, makes things > simplier, but of cou

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-06 Thread nate
Hans Wilmer said: > Well, I'd like to use LDAP to have a global address book for users, as a > first step. If I only could get it to work, LDAP could be used to > authenticate mail-users. > > But lacking something else, I would set up users with adduser, though not > create home directories and ha

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-06 Thread Hans Wilmer
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 05:34:16PM -0800, nate wrote: > > What's the better way to go when building a new server? Should I start > > with 2.x or stay at 1.5? > > If it were me, I would use 1.5. See my other posts with the maintainer > of the cyrus 2 packages for debian for why. It really depends

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-05 Thread nate
Hans Wilmer said: > What's the better way to go when building a new server? Should I start > with 2.x or stay at 1.5? If it were me, I would use 1.5. See my other posts with the maintainer of the cyrus 2 packages for debian for why. It really depends on your requirements. cyrus 1.5 is VERY VERY o

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-05 Thread David Díaz
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 06:11, Hans Wilmer wrote: > How can the filtering language cyrus > has be used? It uses sieve, so google for the sieve rfc for an intro to sieve. The sieve filter file is either in the ~/.sieverc or in /var/spool/sieve/x/username/default. This is dependent on a setting in ima

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-05 Thread Dave Carrigan
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 06:11, Hans Wilmer wrote: > How can the filtering language cyrus > has be used? It uses sieve, so google for the sieve rfc for an intro to sieve. The sieve filter file is either in the ~/.sieverc or in /var/spool/sieve/x/username/default. This is dependent on a setting in ima

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-05 Thread Hans Wilmer
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 01:37:38PM -0800, nate wrote: > > Ok, all this sounds good. Cyrus may be the more solid solution at > > least. But some questions come up with it: > > as a cyrus user on debian for 2 years now I can say that cyrus 1.5 > is a ROCK solid mail server. Extremely fast, reliable

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-05 Thread Hans Wilmer
Hi, maybe we should switch to the info-cyrus mailing list, as this is cyrus-specific. I'm subscribed to that list, so you can post followups to there if you like. On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 10:19:05PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > delete folders. My first impression is that cyrus i

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 04 Feb 2003, nate wrote: > > Cyrus 1.5 also has SASL problems. Anyway, Cyrus 2.1 will do LDAP auth > > very easily, as long as it is against an open-ldap server (there is no > > need to muck around with PAM to do that, then). I use it here, and it > > doesn't even glitch. > > yes but the

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-04 Thread nate
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh said: > Use my *official* debs. Duh. The ones for woody are official, they just > are not shipped with woody :-P sid includes cyrus 1.5 (deprecated > upstream) and cyrus 2.1. 2.2 is comming in one month or so. Woody > (debian 3.0) has official debs of 1.5 (shipped

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 04 Feb 2003, Hans Wilmer wrote: > delete folders. My first impression is that cyrus is considerably > faster than courier. It is. The whole indexes pain with Cyrus is to get that speed... > But to get a decent number of mails into the testusers mailbox for > testing, I'd like to copy ove

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 04 Feb 2003, nate wrote: > to use, flexible etc. That said, I took a look at possibly replacing > my cyrus 1.5 with a new cyrus 2.0 or 2.1?? from the unofficial debs Use my *official* debs. Duh. The ones for woody are official, they just are not shipped with woody :-P sid includes cyrus

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-04 Thread nate
Hans Wilmer said: > Ok, all this sounds good. Cyrus may be the more solid solution at > least. But some questions come up with it: as a cyrus user on debian for 2 years now I can say that cyrus 1.5 is a ROCK solid mail server. Extremely fast, reliable, fairly easy to use, flexible etc. That said,

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-04 Thread Hans Wilmer
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:36:26AM -0800, Dave Carrigan wrote: > This is incorrect. Cyrus storage method is basically maildir with an > index database for performance. If the index database gets > corrupted, it can be completely rebuilt from the messages in the > mail directory, using the cyrus ad

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-04 Thread Hans Wilmer
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:36:26AM -0800, Dave Carrigan wrote: > > Cyrus seems to be good for performance, but it is using its own format > > to store the mail. That would make it impossible to recover particular > > mailboxes from backups, and if something goes wrong, you're more or > > less left

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-03 Thread Dave Carrigan
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 05:08, Hans Wilmer wrote: > Hi! > > Currently I'm trying to figure out what software to use best to set up > an IMAP server for the company I'm working at. I'll be using Debian > Woody for the server, and the following requirements and suppositions > are given: > > > + abou

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-02 Thread Hans Wilmer
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 05:32:38PM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > >1.) performance: > > That's because all webmail clients are incredibly stupid. Because > HTTP is stateless, they connect to the IMAP server every time you > click on something. And every time the IMAP server has to open th

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-02 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hans Wilmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >1.) performance: > >My server has an IDE disk only, and it turned out that imapd >tends to heavily access the disk. Performance (700 MHz Athlon) >is ok for one user, accessing a folder holding a handful of >mai

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-02 Thread Hans Wilmer
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 02:07:41PM -, Colin Ellis wrote: > I'm not sure about exim with maildir. I'm not a great fan of exim > for anything more than simple configurations, but that is only > personal preference and a bit of hacking of qmail code. Well, exim natively supports maildir; you ju

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-02 Thread Hans Wilmer
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 02:08:18PM +0100, Hans Wilmer wrote: > Currently I'm trying to figure out what software to use best to set up > an IMAP server for the company I'm working at. I'll be using Debian > Woody for the server, and the following requirements and suppositions > are given: [...] ..

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-01 Thread will trillich
[OP] >> + Users may be real users on the server. --- Are there good reasons >> against this? On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 02:07:41PM -, Colin Ellis wrote: > I'm not sure why you feel the need to create user accounts on the machine > itself. It seems a bit of a security nightmare to me. Vmailmgr

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 01 Feb 2003, Hans Wilmer wrote: > + about 60--100 users Piece of cake on anything better than a Pentium MMX200. > + Mail must be saved on the server, not on the clients. > + Users should be able to create folders and subfolders to store their > mail. IMAP will do this. > + Exim should b

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-01 Thread Sean
I've currently got this setup on my home firewall box. Granted, I have far fewer than 60-100 users, but that's largely irrelevant as far as the setup goes. I'm running Debian(sid) on a 500MHz Alpha workstation, using courier-imap for IMAP, exim for MTA, and spamassassin for anti-spam. Authenticati

Re: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-01 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Hans Wilmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.01.1408 +0100]: > Currently I'm trying to figure out what software to use best to set up > an IMAP server for the company I'm working at. I'll be using Debian > Woody for the server, and the following requirements and suppositions > are given: c

RE: Building an IMAP server

2003-02-01 Thread Colin Ellis
Ellis Solution City Ltd. -Original Message- From: Hans Wilmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 February 2003 13:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Building an IMAP server Hi! Currently I'm trying to figure out what software to use best to set up an IMAP server for the compan

Building an IMAP server

2003-02-01 Thread Hans Wilmer
Hi! Currently I'm trying to figure out what software to use best to set up an IMAP server for the company I'm working at. I'll be using Debian Woody for the server, and the following requirements and suppositions are given: + about 60--100 users + Mail must be saved on the server, not on the cl