Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-10-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 24 sep 13, 14:22:39, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > Does vi(m) correctly detect the filetype of emails as 'mail'? I added > the following to ~/.vimrc > > au BufRead,BufNewFile /tmp/mutt-* set filetype=mail I don't need that, I only have: autocmd FileType mail setlocal spell spelllang=ro

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-09-28 at 09:34 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > Irony and sarcasm are hard to use well in your mother tongue. They are > even harder to use in a non-native tongue. I try to be more careful. On another list I already marked text with [satire] foo [/satire]. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > [...] > I was ironic. > > Why is there always that much noise to the list, when people unintended > offend a mailing list rule? > [...] Irony and sarcasm are hard to use well in your mother tongue. They are even harder to use in a non-native

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 21:18 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 21:47 -0400, Tom H wrote: > >> > >> I thought that Arch's policy was to package the latest vanilla > >> upstream versions. > > > > Correct! > > So why are you claimin

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 21:47 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> >> I thought that Arch's policy was to package the latest vanilla >> upstream versions. > > Correct! So why are you claiming that they've forked Evolution?! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 21:47 -0400, Tom H wrote: > I thought that Arch's policy was to package the latest vanilla > upstream versions. Correct! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-25 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > You missed to understand the irony :D. No, I'm kidding now. Indeed, Arch > Linux forked Evolution, called the fork Evolution too and messed up > quoting for Evolution. This is the policy of Arch Linux, to make broken > forks of current stabl

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-24 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 02:22:39PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > Ah, a fellow vim user! > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 07:54:30PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > I have my ~/.muttrc as followqs: > > > > set editor="vim +':set textwidth=72'" > > Does vi(m) correctly detect the filetype of email

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 14:22 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I regularly re-wrap text that I'm quoting from others. +1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.or

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Ah, a fellow vim user! On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 07:54:30PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > I have my ~/.muttrc as followqs: > > set editor="vim +':set textwidth=72'" Does vi(m) correctly detect the filetype of emails as 'mail'? I added the following to ~/.vimrc au BufRead,BufNewFile /tmp/mut

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-24 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 9/23/13, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 09:46:51AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> On 9/23/13, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> > _Please_ people. The idea is that we should help each other and that >> > that >> > help should be available in the archive for searchers to find. We need

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 07:01:55PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > I recently got back from holiday. I have found catching up on the list > really > difficult because so many people now break threads and don't trim quotes, or, > even worse, do not quote at all. Read (and/or help) those who make doi

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-23 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 08:39:14AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 23 September 2013 00:46:51 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > If you MUA has such a setting, I recommend about 70-chars line > > length for emails, to minimise the "single word on next line after > > quoting and wrapping" problem, seen

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 23:57 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:50:02PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 12:55 -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > don't trim quotes > > > > Some days ago I trimmed quotes on Linux audio users/developers and was > > ask to qu

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 05:56:45AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 09:46 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Please avoid breaking threads > > To add this line won't help, because _most_ users aren't aware what > breaking a thread does mean. They'll soon learn. The idea is not t

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 09:46:51AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 9/23/13, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > _Please_ people. The idea is that we should help each other and that that > > help should be available in the archive for searchers to find. We need to > > be > > both legible and comprehensible.

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:50:02PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 12:55 -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > don't trim quotes > > Some days ago I trimmed quotes on Linux audio users/developers and was > ask to quote everything, because out of context the quotes would be > manipulat

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 23 September 2013 00:46:51 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > If you MUA has such a setting, I recommend about 70-chars line > length for emails, to minimise the "single word on next line after > quoting and wrapping" problem, seen above .. My ignorance showing. I thought that that odd wrapping w

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 09:48 +0400, recovery...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:37:00PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> ... Really bad quoting ... > > X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.5 > > Wow. Is evolution they give you in Arch Linux really that bad? > Did you considered tuning it somewhat? >

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread recovery...@gmail.com
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:37:00PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> ... Really bad quoting ... > X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.5 Wow. Is evolution they give you in Arch Linux really that bad? Did you considered tuning it somewhat? Because you see - OP mail looked just fine in my mutt. Reco -- To UNSUB

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 09:46 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Please avoid breaking threads To add this line won't help, because _most_ users aren't aware what breaking a thread does mean. It's much easier to sort by something else, instead of the thread. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-r

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 9/23/13, Lisi Reisz wrote: > I recently got back from holiday. I have found catching up on the list > really > difficult because so many people now break threads and don't trim quotes, > or, > even worse, do not quote at all. If you MUA has such a setting, I recommend about 70-chars line leng

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 23:00:02 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Insanity is a new fashion in Linuxland. In regard to some of your recent comments Ralf I was a bit concerned about you. Maybe the NSA hasn't made you nuts at all but instead repressed feelings about the environment. I understand completel

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 22:50 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 12:55 -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > don't trim quotes PS: As you can see, in this case the really bad trimmed quote indeed could be misinterpreted as a call. I guess we have to live with some odd mails. Ok, that hard

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 12:55 -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > don't trim quotes Some days ago I trimmed quotes on Linux audio users/developers and was ask to quote everything, because out of context the quotes would be manipulating the content. But it anyway was an insane discussion, since somebody fo

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 19:01 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: I recently got back from holiday. I have found catching up on the list really > difficult because so many people now break threads and don't trim quotes, or, > even worse, do not quote at all. hyposensibilization might help > > What on eart

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 07:01:55PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > I recently got back from holiday. I have found catching up on the list > really > difficult because so many people now break threads and don't trim quotes, or, > even worse, do not quote at all. I was going to just grin and bear it,

Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
I recently got back from holiday. I have found catching up on the list really difficult because so many people now break threads and don't trim quotes, or, even worse, do not quote at all. What on earth am I to make of, for example: Re Widgets : Yes, I quite agree, Stephen. But I find it helpf